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Two clear as day handball pens denied for Sweden, I bet the Northern Irish are spitting feathers!
Well thats one of the Heaveyweights not going to the World Cup Finals 😂😂😂😂😂
No. I don't think it should put our situation into context. Italy have been struggling for 4-6 years. We've been shite for most of the past quarter century.
My grouse with England hasn't usually been with qualifying. We're generally, reasonably competent flat-track bullies. But that's not really much of a claim if you aspire to be a real contender. And that's where we collapse. Pretty much every time we come into contact with top-10 global sides. Or even top-25/30 sides over the past few years. Tell you what. I'd take Italy and Netherlands' record at major tournaments these past 25 years over ours, any day. And yes, they've failed to qualify from far tougher groups than ours. But I suspect we'll not progress very much further than they managed. Hope I'm wrong but I don't hope that much. It's tough to keep hoping when you see your side failing on a biennial basis.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 13, 2017, 11:52:32 pmMy grouse with England hasn't usually been with qualifying. We're generally, reasonably competent flat-track bullies. But that's not really much of a claim if you aspire to be a real contender. And that's where we collapse. Pretty much every time we come into contact with top-10 global sides. Or even top-25/30 sides over the past few years. Tell you what. I'd take Italy and Netherlands' record at major tournaments these past 25 years over ours, any day. And yes, they've failed to qualify from far tougher groups than ours. But I suspect we'll not progress very much further than they managed. Hope I'm wrong but I don't hope that much. It's tough to keep hoping when you see your side failing on a biennial basis.I think when we end up in another tough qualifying group, we might struggle.We've been fortunate to not get any high quality opponents in our qualifying groups for a good few years.
England are at least getting to these tournaments. It may seem a cakewalk against inferior nations but we always get the job done, five straight qualifying campaigns now without a worry.I say it again, this is far better than Italy and Netherlands who would give anything to be in our position. The Dutch lost to Bulgaria in qualifying and came 3rd in their group. Italy were held at home by Macedonia for crying out loud! This is what I mean by perspective.
It's like Groundhog Day lads. Every two years, the same reasons for optimism are trotted out...