Wigan v TLO Doncaster

[drfchound]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

"Deal with" in what way?

I hope you're not implying he should have shaken it off like a real man or something. Injuries don't tend to work like that.

Maybe Alfie may should have avoided being injured earlier in the season then.

[pib]

Don't worry, we will be looking for a reaction on Saturday.

Shouldn't we be looking for a reaction to losing 3-0?

Yes we should but i was speaking on behalf of DF in his post match interview.

I'm not sure what some people expect him to say...

Something that's not meaniningless, presumably.

[pib]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

Like all those unavoidable impact injuries we picked up when Dickov was manager?

[drfchound]

Can't believe how quiet the Wigan fans are, 3-0 and coasting and hardly any noise in the ground.

[mushRTID]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

Are strikers made of different stuff than midfielders and defenders?

[DonnyOsmond]

Don't worry, we will be looking for a reaction on Saturday.

Shouldn't we be looking for a reaction to losing 3-0?

Yes we should but i was speaking on behalf of DF in his post match interview.

I'm not sure what some people expect him to say...

Something that's not meaniningless, presumably.

Then don't listen to post match managers comments. When are they not meaningless? They're made to do it. They can't say how they feel as they're likely to upset the FL, the players, the owners or the fans. Its a completely pointless exercise they're made to do then they get ripped for comments they've made. Fair enough moan about wrong tactics but not him saying he expects the players to do better and give him a reaction to losing 3-0.

[Lesonthewest]

It didn't surprise me Williams getting injured, it did surprise me him going in for a tackle though.

[BillyStubbsTears]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

"Deal with" in what way?

I hope you're not implying he should have shaken it off like a real man or something. Injuries don't tend to work like that.

No. You're reading something into my post that isn't there. I meant "deal with" as in "get several like it per match". As in, it wasn't a foul.

[glosterred]

Full time 3-0 it can only get better. .......... hopefully


COYR

[steve@dcfd]

Can't believe how quiet the Wigan fans are, 3-0 and coasting and hardly any noise in the ground.

They expect to win every game with their budget so it’s not important to them. We are treading water on our budget and whether it’s the manager or players we lose this one not unexpected.

[RoversAlias]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

"Deal with" in what way?

I hope you're not implying he should have shaken it off like a real man or something. Injuries don't tend to work like that.

No. You're reading something into my post that isn't there. I meant "deal with" as in "get several like it per match". As in, it wasn't a foul.

Wasn't reading anything into it, asked for clarification and you've now given it. The original wording did come off as if you thought he somehow should be impervious to injuries.

Anyway, this is not a good night for us so let's hope we can move on quickly.

[pib]

Don't worry, we will be looking for a reaction on Saturday.

Shouldn't we be looking for a reaction to losing 3-0?

Yes we should but i was speaking on behalf of DF in his post match interview.

I'm not sure what some people expect him to say...

Something that's not meaniningless, presumably.

Then don't listen to post match managers comments. When are they not meaningless? They're made to do it. They can't say how they feel as they're likely to upset the FL, the players, the owners or the fans. Its a completely pointless exercise they're made to do then they get ripped for comments they've made. Fair enough moan about wrong tactics but not him saying he expects the players to do better and give him a reaction to losing 3-0.

I don't agree. Most fans prefer honesty.

It wouldn't be meaningless if we actually got a reaction, but it doesn't happen.

[BillyStubbsTears]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

Are strikers made of different stuff than midfielders and defenders?

Strikers expect to be coming short for a ball with a defender coming in from the back and side. That's what happened. Any striker should expect to have challenges like that. It comes with the territory.

My comment about "dealing with it" was intended as a reflection on the fact that it wasn't a foul. But there's another aspect. If you don't shape up to "deal with" that sort of challenge by having a robust approach yourself, if you waft a leg towards the challenge, then yes you'll get hurt. That's what happened. 

[DonnyOsmond]

Don't worry, we will be looking for a reaction on Saturday.

Shouldn't we be looking for a reaction to losing 3-0?

Yes we should but i was speaking on behalf of DF in his post match interview.

I'm not sure what some people expect him to say...

Something that's not meaniningless, presumably.

Then don't listen to post match managers comments. When are they not meaningless? They're made to do it. They can't say how they feel as they're likely to upset the FL, the players, the owners or the fans. Its a completely pointless exercise they're made to do then they get ripped for comments they've made. Fair enough moan about wrong tactics but not him saying he expects the players to do better and give him a reaction to losing 3-0.

I don't agree. Most fans prefer honesty.

It wouldn't be meaningless if we actually got a reaction, but it doesn't happen.

He's not the one going onto the pitch and playing though?

[pib]

Don't worry, we will be looking for a reaction on Saturday.

Shouldn't we be looking for a reaction to losing 3-0?

Yes we should but i was speaking on behalf of DF in his post match interview.

I'm not sure what some people expect him to say...

Something that's not meaniningless, presumably.

Then don't listen to post match managers comments. When are they not meaningless? They're made to do it. They can't say how they feel as they're likely to upset the FL, the players, the owners or the fans. Its a completely pointless exercise they're made to do then they get ripped for comments they've made. Fair enough moan about wrong tactics but not him saying he expects the players to do better and give him a reaction to losing 3-0.

I don't agree. Most fans prefer honesty.

It wouldn't be meaningless if we actually got a reaction, but it doesn't happen.

He's not the one going onto the pitch and playing though?

So the manager has no responsibility for how well (or otherwise) the team perform?

[DonnyOsmond]

Don't worry, we will be looking for a reaction on Saturday.

Shouldn't we be looking for a reaction to losing 3-0?

Yes we should but i was speaking on behalf of DF in his post match interview.

I'm not sure what some people expect him to say...

Something that's not meaniningless, presumably.

Then don't listen to post match managers comments. When are they not meaningless? They're made to do it. They can't say how they feel as they're likely to upset the FL, the players, the owners or the fans. Its a completely pointless exercise they're made to do then they get ripped for comments they've made. Fair enough moan about wrong tactics but not him saying he expects the players to do better and give him a reaction to losing 3-0.

I don't agree. Most fans prefer honesty.

It wouldn't be meaningless if we actually got a reaction, but it doesn't happen.

He's not the one going onto the pitch and playing though?

So the manager has no responsibility for how well (or otherwise) the team perform?

Of course the manager does but he can only do a certain amount but its up to the players to produce out there.

[idler]

That's why a manager gets paid to buy the right players and field the correct side with the right tactics as often as possible.

[drfchound]

That's why a manager gets paid to buy the right players and field the correct side with the right tactics as often as possible.

Amen to that idler.

[mushRTID]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

Are strikers made of different stuff than midfielders and defenders?

Strikers expect to be coming short for a ball with a defender coming in from the back and side. That's what happened. Any striker should expect to have challenges like that. It comes with the territory.

My comment about "dealing with it" was intended as a reflection on the fact that it wasn't a foul. But there's another aspect. If you don't shape up to "deal with" that sort of challenge by having a robust approach yourself, if you waft a leg towards the challenge, then yes you'll get hurt. That's what happened. 

DF | Andy Williams' injury looks like it could be a bad one, it was a nasty challenge and it looks like an ankle problem #DRFC

[drfchound]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

Are strikers made of different stuff than midfielders and defenders?

Strikers expect to be coming short for a ball with a defender coming in from the back and side. That's what happened. Any striker should expect to have challenges like that. It comes with the territory.

My comment about "dealing with it" was intended as a reflection on the fact that it wasn't a foul. But there's another aspect. If you don't shape up to "deal with" that sort of challenge by having a robust approach yourself, if you waft a leg towards the challenge, then yes you'll get hurt. That's what happened. 

DF | Andy Williams' injury looks like it could be a bad one, it was a nasty challenge and it looks like an ankle problem #DRFC

It is his own fault (apperently).
Strikers should be able to avoid this type of injury.

Just like Sharp did at Brighton.

[RoversAlias]

Fergie says "we need a reaction" after the game. Not even kidding.

[dickos1]

Williams didn't go in for the tackle cause he had the ball the bloke came from behind
It was s foul

I'm not a fan but it was a foul

[dickos1]

All managers say it

[mushRTID]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

Are strikers made of different stuff than midfielders and defenders?

Strikers expect to be coming short for a ball with a defender coming in from the back and side. That's what happened. Any striker should expect to have challenges like that. It comes with the territory.

My comment about "dealing with it" was intended as a reflection on the fact that it wasn't a foul. But there's another aspect. If you don't shape up to "deal with" that sort of challenge by having a robust approach yourself, if you waft a leg towards the challenge, then yes you'll get hurt. That's what happened. 

DF | Andy Williams' injury looks like it could be a bad one, it was a nasty challenge and it looks like an ankle problem #DRFC

It is his own fault (apperently).
Strikers should be able to avoid this type of injury.

Just like Sharp did at Brighton.

Think we just need to ignore DF on this one, BST knows best.

[RoversAlias]

Do they all say it after every game we don't win? He doesn't help himself sometimes, I'm sick of seeing him say it to be honest. Not to get on his back like but I do think he needs to think about what he says in these positions.

[DonnyOsmond]

Do they all say it after every game we don't win? He doesn't help himself sometimes, I'm sick of seeing him say it to be honest. Not to get on his back like but I do think he needs to think about what he says in these positions.

What would you say?

[RoversAlias]

Do they all say it after every game we don't win? He doesn't help himself sometimes, I'm sick of seeing him say it to be honest. Not to get on his back like but I do think he needs to think about what he says in these positions.

What would you say?

Literally anything else.

[BillyStubbsTears]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

Are strikers made of different stuff than midfielders and defenders?

Strikers expect to be coming short for a ball with a defender coming in from the back and side. That's what happened. Any striker should expect to have challenges like that. It comes with the territory.

My comment about "dealing with it" was intended as a reflection on the fact that it wasn't a foul. But there's another aspect. If you don't shape up to "deal with" that sort of challenge by having a robust approach yourself, if you waft a leg towards the challenge, then yes you'll get hurt. That's what happened. 

DF | Andy Williams' injury looks like it could be a bad one, it was a nasty challenge and it looks like an ankle problem #DRFC

It is his own fault (apperently).
Strikers should be able to avoid this type of injury.

Just like Sharp did at Brighton.

Think we just need to ignore DF on this one, BST knows best.

If I've mis-read the tackle I'd be the first to apologise. I was watching carefully at the time and it never crossed my mind that it was a foul.

[BigH]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

"Deal with" in what way?

I hope you're not implying he should have shaken it off like a real man or something. Injuries don't tend to work like that.

To be fair to Williams, from what I saw, he fell awkwardly on his ankle. At best a sprain, at worst ligament damage. Don't be surprised if he's out for a month or two.

[hoolahoop]

It wasn't a bad tackle. It was a hard tackle. The sort you expect to deal with as a striker.

"Deal with" in what way?

I hope you're not implying he should have shaken it off like a real man or something. Injuries don't tend to work like that.

To be fair to Williams, from what I saw, he fell awkwardly on his ankle. At best a sprain, at worst ligament damage. Don't be surprised if he's out for a month or two.

Players are out months now with just a strained boot lace .