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If we are likely going to be safe this season, and have no hope of going up, then there is little chance of the manager being dismissed. Potentially reassessed at the end of the season, but ‘just treading water’ as we are currently is not enough to get the bullet. Very disappointing mind.
I think we could have more points than what we have got. I know we have been the architects of our own downfall at times but I think we have been good for another 5 points at least.
Quote from: GazLaz on November 22, 2017, 09:32:26 amI think we could have more points than what we have got. I know we have been the architects of our own downfall at times but I think we have been good for another 5 points at least. But that's the whole point Gaz: we haven't. And we haven't because that's how good/bad/indifferent we are. We're 2 points above the relegation zone, and that's how good we are as a team
It might be 5 points after 20 games
Quote from: mrfrostsdad on November 22, 2017, 09:35:08 amQuote from: GazLaz on November 22, 2017, 09:32:26 amI think we could have more points than what we have got. I know we have been the architects of our own downfall at times but I think we have been good for another 5 points at least. But that's the whole point Gaz: we haven't. And we haven't because that's how good/bad/indifferent we are. We're 2 points above the relegation zone, and that's how good we are as a teamDoesn’t mean we didn’t deserve it though. You can’t judge things purely on points.
Quote from: GazLaz on November 22, 2017, 09:32:26 amI think we could have more points than what we have got. I know we have been the architects of our own downfall at times but I think we have been good for another 5 points at least. Totally agree with that Gaz.I was with the OP right up until he said Fergie had to go if we don't win on Saturday. Our form has improved of late, we are tougher to beat taking last night out of it, now it seems finding that scoring habit is the main problem again. I agree that we should maybe expect to be a little further up the table, but it's still fine margins at this stage of the season. If we'd held on against Rotherham I believe we'd have been only 3/4 points off the Play Offs.If I was forced to judge the team/manager at this point in the season I'd say we are in the "room for improvement" category but not in panic stations yet by any means. If we can accrue a steady amount of points into the New Year, sign one or two experienced additions to bolster our ranks and stay relatively injury free I do think we're well capable of staying clear of the real relegation scrap.
Quote from: RoversAlias on November 22, 2017, 12:03:07 pmQuote from: GazLaz on November 22, 2017, 09:32:26 amI think we could have more points than what we have got. I know we have been the architects of our own downfall at times but I think we have been good for another 5 points at least. Totally agree with that Gaz.I was with the OP right up until he said Fergie had to go if we don't win on Saturday. Our form has improved of late, we are tougher to beat taking last night out of it, now it seems finding that scoring habit is the main problem again. I agree that we should maybe expect to be a little further up the table, but it's still fine margins at this stage of the season. If we'd held on against Rotherham I believe we'd have been only 3/4 points off the Play Offs.If I was forced to judge the team/manager at this point in the season I'd say we are in the "room for improvement" category but not in panic stations yet by any means. If we can accrue a steady amount of points into the New Year, sign one or two experienced additions to bolster our ranks and stay relatively injury free I do think we're well capable of staying clear of the real relegation scrap.But that's the whole point: our results haven't improved of late. Have we not taken 8 points from our last 7 games?? I may be wrong and if I am, apologies
Quote from: GazLaz on November 22, 2017, 11:32:23 amQuote from: mrfrostsdad on November 22, 2017, 09:35:08 amQuote from: GazLaz on November 22, 2017, 09:32:26 amI think we could have more points than what we have got. I know we have been the architects of our own downfall at times but I think we have been good for another 5 points at least. But that's the whole point Gaz: we haven't. And we haven't because that's how good/bad/indifferent we are. We're 2 points above the relegation zone, and that's how good we are as a teamDoesn’t mean we didn’t deserve it though. You can’t judge things purely on points. We can't judge on anything other than points, and we're exactly where we deserve to be
Quote from: mrfrostsdad on November 22, 2017, 12:56:18 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on November 22, 2017, 12:03:07 pmQuote from: GazLaz on November 22, 2017, 09:32:26 amI think we could have more points than what we have got. I know we have been the architects of our own downfall at times but I think we have been good for another 5 points at least. Totally agree with that Gaz.I was with the OP right up until he said Fergie had to go if we don't win on Saturday. Our form has improved of late, we are tougher to beat taking last night out of it, now it seems finding that scoring habit is the main problem again. I agree that we should maybe expect to be a little further up the table, but it's still fine margins at this stage of the season. If we'd held on against Rotherham I believe we'd have been only 3/4 points off the Play Offs.If I was forced to judge the team/manager at this point in the season I'd say we are in the "room for improvement" category but not in panic stations yet by any means. If we can accrue a steady amount of points into the New Year, sign one or two experienced additions to bolster our ranks and stay relatively injury free I do think we're well capable of staying clear of the real relegation scrap.But that's the whole point: our results haven't improved of late. Have we not taken 8 points from our last 7 games?? I may be wrong and if I am, apologies You're choosing 7 games which goes back two months I wouldn't describe that as 'of late'
Quote from: mrfrostsdad on November 22, 2017, 12:54:34 pmQuote from: GazLaz on November 22, 2017, 11:32:23 amQuote from: mrfrostsdad on November 22, 2017, 09:35:08 amQuote from: GazLaz on November 22, 2017, 09:32:26 amI think we could have more points than what we have got. I know we have been the architects of our own downfall at times but I think we have been good for another 5 points at least. But that's the whole point Gaz: we haven't. And we haven't because that's how good/bad/indifferent we are. We're 2 points above the relegation zone, and that's how good we are as a teamDoesn’t mean we didn’t deserve it though. You can’t judge things purely on points. We can't judge on anything other than points, and we're exactly where we deserve to beYou can judge on what you see on the pitch. I suppose if you haven’t got a clue what you are looking at on the pitch you have to use a basic numerical barometer to judge if you should be angry or not.
If only there were some handy way of officially measuring the performance of a football team relative to 23 others over say, a 10 month period.If we had such a system then we'd know for sure where our team's performance ranks against the others'.Can anyone think of owt?
Quote from: dickos1 on November 22, 2017, 01:00:20 pmQuote from: mrfrostsdad on November 22, 2017, 12:56:18 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on November 22, 2017, 12:03:07 pmQuote from: GazLaz on November 22, 2017, 09:32:26 amI think we could have more points than what we have got. I know we have been the architects of our own downfall at times but I think we have been good for another 5 points at least. Totally agree with that Gaz.I was with the OP right up until he said Fergie had to go if we don't win on Saturday. Our form has improved of late, we are tougher to beat taking last night out of it, now it seems finding that scoring habit is the main problem again. I agree that we should maybe expect to be a little further up the table, but it's still fine margins at this stage of the season. If we'd held on against Rotherham I believe we'd have been only 3/4 points off the Play Offs.If I was forced to judge the team/manager at this point in the season I'd say we are in the "room for improvement" category but not in panic stations yet by any means. If we can accrue a steady amount of points into the New Year, sign one or two experienced additions to bolster our ranks and stay relatively injury free I do think we're well capable of staying clear of the real relegation scrap.But that's the whole point: our results haven't improved of late. Have we not taken 8 points from our last 7 games?? I may be wrong and if I am, apologies You're choosing 7 games which goes back two months I wouldn't describe that as 'of late'Dickos: massage it any way you want, we've taken 8 points from the last 7 games which is not good enough. And no, we don't have less points than we deserve to have. We were lucky to beat Portsmouth and on another day we'd have lost to Rotherham.To quote an old adage, the league table doesn't lie
Further to this We've got 11 points from the last 8 games therefore in the previous 11 games we got 9 points. So as was stated earlier the results have improved of late
Put your glasses on hound