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ravenrover

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The Oldham keeper
« on December 17, 2017, 09:28:59 pm by ravenrover »
I don't think it's been mentioned on other threads but what a distributor of the ball that chap is. Right or left he sprayed the ball out with accuracy. I don't think I've seen another keeper at this level as confident with the ball at his feet



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Akinfenwa

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #1 on December 17, 2017, 09:35:55 pm by Akinfenwa »
He was one of the best passers on the pitch. Found a man even when he went long.

drfchound

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #2 on December 17, 2017, 09:36:45 pm by drfchound »
He made a great first half save too.

anne honemous

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #3 on December 17, 2017, 09:39:49 pm by anne honemous »
The only time he messed one up was when he more or less threw the ball in Mandeville's direction, late in the game.

Then again, judging by his overall contribution, Mandeville may as well have had an Oldham shirt on.

mushRTID

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #4 on December 17, 2017, 09:42:26 pm by mushRTID »
I thought he looked a mistake waiting to happen and almost did when he threw the ball straight to us.

Good save first half but we didn’t give him a tough afternoon did we?

drfchound

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #5 on December 17, 2017, 09:45:34 pm by drfchound »
TBF Lawlor didn’t have much to do either.

Interesting that the bbc sport site has Oldham down as
having just one shot on target.

The goal has to be one but what about the one Butler cleared off the line in the first half.

selby

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #6 on December 17, 2017, 09:46:57 pm by selby »
He was good, and I thought Lawlor kicked long better than he has done in other games.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #7 on December 17, 2017, 09:58:04 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
TBF Lawlor didn’t have much to do either.

Interesting that the bbc sport site has Oldham down as
having just one shot on target.

The goal has to be one but what about the one Butler cleared off the line in the first half.


It’s the convention at the PA who do the stats. Shots blocked by a defender don’t count as”shots in target”.

Seems daft, but I suppose it means that if you subtract goals from shots on target, you have “saves made by keeper” for the record.

drfchound

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #8 on December 17, 2017, 10:03:04 pm by drfchound »
TBF Lawlor didn’t have much to do either.

Interesting that the bbc sport site has Oldham down as
having just one shot on target.

The goal has to be one but what about the one Butler cleared off the line in the first half.


It’s the convention at the PA who do the stats. Shots blocked by a defender don’t count as”shots in target”.

Seems daft, but I suppose it means that if you subtract goals from shots on target, you have “saves made by keeper” for the record.





Ridiculous that stuff cleared off the line doesn’t count as a shot on target.

GazLaz

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #9 on December 18, 2017, 07:30:54 am by GazLaz »
He only looked about 5’8.

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #10 on December 18, 2017, 07:33:33 am by Donnywolf »
... and did a "look at me" flourish as he saved Alfies first half effort

GazLaz

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« Reply #11 on December 18, 2017, 07:35:47 am by GazLaz »
... and did a "look at me" flourish as he saved Alfies first half effort

He shouldn’t have been given a chance to get anywhere near that one of Alfie’s. Got to bury those sort of chances at any level.

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #12 on December 18, 2017, 07:38:23 am by Bentley Bullet »
... and did a "look at me" flourish as he saved Alfies first half effort

Ah, do you mean that great save he made from Alfie's 'miss'!

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #13 on December 18, 2017, 08:18:10 am by donnievic »
TBF Lawlor didn’t have much to do either.

Interesting that the bbc sport site has Oldham down as
having just one shot on target.

The goal has to be one but what about the one Butler cleared off the line in the first half.

that goes down as a block on the stats

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« Reply #14 on December 18, 2017, 08:42:54 am by CGJ »
How come there is a demand nowadays in UK football that all keepers must be six foot plus yet most of these are far less agile than those somewhat smaller and are also too immobile to get down to many shots in the corners, not to mention their general footwork inability.

Pep Guardiola leads the way in many other areas as well!!

DMnumber4

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« Reply #15 on December 18, 2017, 09:48:32 am by DMnumber4 »
How come there is a demand nowadays in UK football that all keepers must be six foot plus yet most of these are far less agile than those somewhat smaller and are also too immobile to get down to many shots in the corners, not to mention their general footwork inability.

Pep Guardiola leads the way in many other areas as well!!

Good point. Lawlor's sizeable frame didn't allow for him to get down to the Oxford 40 yard grass-cutter in time did it?

GazLaz

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« Reply #16 on December 18, 2017, 10:40:05 am by GazLaz »
How come there is a demand nowadays in UK football that all keepers must be six foot plus yet most of these are far less agile than those somewhat smaller and are also too immobile to get down to many shots in the corners, not to mention their general footwork inability.

Pep Guardiola leads the way in many other areas as well!!

Peps keeper is 6’2 at least. There’s a reason keepers are over 6’. It’s not a coincidence.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #17 on December 18, 2017, 10:49:34 am by BillyStubbsTears »
I desperately want May to succeed but you’ve got to be dispassionate about that chance. He made it hard for himself by a poor first touch. He wasn’t being challenged. There wasn’t a defender up his arse knocking him off balance. He had a golden opportunity to knock the ball a yard to his left and bury the chance. Instead, the ball slid off his knee slightly to the right and towards the incoming defender. So he had to re-adjust his shape and snatch at a shot.

Fine margins but that’s the difference at this level. A Heffernan or a Williams of 2 years ago or a Marquis would have buried that chance. And to be fair, I suspect Mandeville would have done too.

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #18 on December 18, 2017, 10:59:05 am by Colemans Left Hook »
TBF Lawlor didn’t have much to do either.

Interesting that the bbc sport site has Oldham down as
having just one shot on target.

The goal has to be one but what about the one Butler cleared off the line in the first half.

and as you probably know shots that hit the post or bar are off target

It’s the convention at the PA who do the stats. Shots blocked by a defender don’t count as”shots in target”.

Seems daft, but I suppose it means that if you subtract goals from shots on target, you have “saves made by keeper” for the record.

GazLaz

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« Reply #19 on December 18, 2017, 11:00:32 am by GazLaz »
I desperately want May to succeed but you’ve got to be dispassionate about that chance. He made it hard for himself by a poor first touch. He wasn’t being challenged. There wasn’t a defender up his arse knocking him off balance. He had a golden opportunity to knock the ball a yard to his left and bury the chance. Instead, the ball slid off his knee slightly to the right and towards the incoming defender. So he had to re-adjust his shape and snatch at a shot.

Fine margins but that’s the difference at this level. A Heffernan or a Williams of 2 years ago or a Marquis would have buried that chance. And to be fair, I suspect Mandeville would have done too.

It was an easy chance clean through on goal. It’s what he’s in the side to do, get in behind teams and finish those chances. He’s not good enough, he might be one day but he’s not now. I’ve had a close look at all the goals he’s scored and all the chances he’s missed.

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #20 on December 18, 2017, 11:06:09 am by Bentley Bullet »
BST

Yeah. You’re right.

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #21 on December 18, 2017, 11:24:32 am by Rovers Return »
How come there is a demand nowadays in UK football that all keepers must be six foot plus yet most of these are far less agile than those somewhat smaller and are also too immobile to get down to many shots in the corners, not to mention their general footwork inability.

Pep Guardiola leads the way in many other areas as well!!

My lad was released......because he wasn't tall enough....at 15!!! The fact that he was, as stated in his reports, amazingly gifted (once saved six penalties in one weekend tournament), agile (still is), had a natural, instinctive positional ability, was very brave and pulled off some amazing saves at height, despite his size. He attracted scouts from various clubs who all had been tipped off about him. They all said " No doubting his ability but I can't keep him as he doesn't fit our standard criteria of a goalkeeper" i.e. he has to be 6'2" minimum.

After being released he has played for various clubs at lower level and they said the opposite. "he's far too good for us we won't hang on to him for long".

Lost all belief in the scouting system in our game.....moved on

DMnumber4

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #22 on December 18, 2017, 12:06:39 pm by DMnumber4 »
Moneyball?

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Re: The Oldham keeper
« Reply #23 on December 18, 2017, 12:15:03 pm by graingrover »
So a good keeper saves May's attempted lob and all of a sudden May is not good enough at this level. What shit arrogance from so called fan!

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« Reply #24 on December 18, 2017, 12:22:03 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
BST

Yeah. You’re right.

I know I am. I've watched the video carefully. Have a look yourself.

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #25 on December 18, 2017, 12:35:04 pm by Bentley Bullet »
So have I. And I was there.

I was also there when Marquis missed that proper sitter against Walsall. I also saw him score just the one penalty from (was it?) 6 attempts last season.

Mandeville (occasional) and Williams (countless) are also guilty of not scoring at every opportunity.



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« Reply #26 on December 18, 2017, 01:27:04 pm by mushRTID »
I desperately want May to succeed but you’ve got to be dispassionate about that chance. He made it hard for himself by a poor first touch. He wasn’t being challenged. There wasn’t a defender up his arse knocking him off balance. He had a golden opportunity to knock the ball a yard to his left and bury the chance. Instead, the ball slid off his knee slightly to the right and towards the incoming defender. So he had to re-adjust his shape and snatch at a shot.

Fine margins but that’s the difference at this level. A Heffernan or a Williams of 2 years ago or a Marquis would have buried that chance. And to be fair, I suspect Mandeville would have done too.

Marquis has missed easier chances.

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« Reply #27 on December 18, 2017, 03:50:29 pm by selby »
   Billy, he is a runner A 100% tryer and that must be what people want nowadays, me I would have a Mickey Quinn character every time.
   The gift of scoring lots of goals,Gold dust.

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« Reply #28 on December 18, 2017, 04:01:18 pm by selby »
  B.B. how many is the Mandeville occasional, I can remember a penalty at Plymouth, not many more.
   Would Alfie take a penalty? lots of strikers dont like taking them, has he been on the field for any penalty shoot outs? counting those Mandeville has scored quite a few, you could add 3 goals to his tally this season if you want to count them.
   Like shelling peas to the lad 12 yards out with the goalkeeper to beat.

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« Reply #29 on December 18, 2017, 04:07:38 pm by drfchound »
Mandy has missed pens in shoot outs.

 

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