VAR

[drfchound]

Albie, I have no doubt that if that had been Rowe going to ground, this forum would be awash with people accusing him of another dive.

[dickos1]

Premeditated means planned in advance,
Looking at it again I don't think he left his leg there I think it was a stupid challenge especially in the box, and diving in like that will always run the risk of giving a penalty away

[dickos1]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42727541

He doesn't leave his leg or fall before. He's actually trying to jump his leg and gets caught

[drfchound]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42727541

He doesn't leave his leg or fall before. He's actually trying to jump his leg and gets caught

Agreed that no way is he diving.
Willian is clearly trying to jump over the tackle so he can get a shot away.
Shocking not to give the pen and disgraceful to book him.

[Donnywolf]

 

Maybe in years to come we will 6 VAR systems all running at once and have "artificial intelligence" to adjudicate ...

... oh wait ... we tried it last Saturday v Plymouth - and it did not work. Thanks Mr HAINES

[LincsRover]

Not sure you could call last weeks officials intelligent in any way - artificial or otherwise!

 

[Highland Rover]

 If we have  ' incompetent ' officials on the pitch , what's to stop us having an equally incompetent VAR official ?

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Then there's no overall difference but it will over time reduce the risk of wrong decisions being made.

[Superspy]

I think the thing to bear in mind is that, while there's no accounting for refs and lino's ignoring stupid things like Copps being dropped in the box, a LOT of decisions that are made are with a single view at full speed from 1 angle...and slow motion replays often show a very different picture. Fans, pundits and everybody involved in football have been talking about this for years. You would hope that given a VAR gets multiple angles and slow motion, it SHOULD massively cut down on incorrect decisions...conversely if the VAR agrees with the ref over something contentious, it SHOULD help reaffirm that the right decision was made too.

I may be living in dream world, but I'm sure a few years ago I heard that a study of offside decisions in the Prem showed that 95%+ were correct...but to sit in the stands on a Saturday, when emotion is involved, you'd think they get every one wrong.

[normal rules]

And so the controversy continues:
The biggest hold-up surrounded the penalty awarded to Liverpool midway through the first half for the foul by Livermore on Salah, with Pawson referring to a monitor at the mouth of the players' tunnel after consulting with video assistant referee Andre Marriner.

Almost three minutes passed between the initial incident and Firmino stepping up to take the penalty - with which he hit the underside of the bar.

It was the second time in a few minutes that West Brom had been on the wrong end of a VAR decision, with Craig Dawson having seen a goal ruled out that would have put them 3-1 up.

Marriner alerted Pawson to the fact that Gareth Barry, standing in front of Liverpool goalkeeper Simon Mignolet and interfering with play, was offside as Dawson headed in a Chris Brunt corner.

Just before half-time came the third use of VAR, as Dawson's cross-shot flicked in off Matip for a third Albion goal. Rodriguez had been offside earlier in the move, but did not touch the ball at any stage, and was deemed not to be interfering with play. After a hold-up while the television footage was reviewed, the goal stood.

Pawson also seemed to check with Marriner after Salah slotted in Firmino's lay-off with 12 minutes left, although there was no delay in play and no clear reason as to why the goal might have been in doubt.

[since-1969]

What f*** yawn VAR is becoming . The studio presenter do a better job .

[normal rules]

Omg having just watched the Liverpool highlights, I cannot see why west broms third was disallowed, salah should have been booked for simulation, despite being held, he made a huge meal of it.

An open and entertaining cup tie stifled by delays caused using var.
right result in the end.

[dickos1]

Var is shite at the minute, needs work
On the salah thing it's irrelevant if he made a meal of it, it's obvious he was pulled back.
West Brom goal was disallowed because Barry was offside and stood on the goalkeepers toes.

[mjg]

Var in me out . Beauty of football is human error

[GazLaz]

Var in me out . Beauty of football is human error

I think the beauty about Football is the scoring system, in most sports the best team wins or even the team that performs best on the day. Footballs not like that. It’s unpredictable.

[Donnywolf]

As Jeff Stelling rightly says "anything DOES happen"