Business case for some defenders

[colincramb]

Dear directors and CEO,

I would like to make a business case to get some new defenders so that we aren’t playing Newport in league 2 next season. If we persist with full backs playing Center half I don’t think we will keep any clean sheets and I’m not dragging my weary arse to the south coast all next season as fuel is now expensive.

Based on the fact getting relegated will set the club back at least 3 years, please could you consider allowing DF to sign 2 Center backs. Thanks in advance

Lewis

[DonnyOsmond]

Fergies already said were bringing in 2 and we've had bids rejected this week.

[colincramb]

By the way, not a dig at the club that, just a bit of piss taking

[Alan Southstand]

It's time for the Board and CEO to take joint responsibility, along with a manager who didn't want to panic!

Saw that coming and have gone on record this week, as much as it pains me to say it.

Nobody else seems bothered though, so......

[colincramb]

I can see where your coming from, Alan and I agree... But I just hope we get somebody with a bit of experience because I’m not sure a couple of kids from the championship (or prem) will necessarily help. Let’s see what pans out though

[Jonathan]

It's time for the Board and CEO to take joint responsibility, along with a manager who didn't want to panic!

Saw that coming and have gone on record this week, as much as it pains me to say it.

Nobody else seems bothered though, so......

Not sure it’s right to say nobody else seems bothered? If you canvassed a thousand people associated with the club I don’t think you’d find one that doesn’t see the need to reinforce the defence.

Ferguson says he wants two centre backs in and has had approaches rejected in the lead up to this game. We now have a few days in which to sort it.

[DonnyOsmond]

Fergie is already doing what we want. Why should we be screaming about it?

[DonnyBazR0ver]

It's time for the Board and CEO to take joint responsibility, along with a manager who didn't want to panic!

Saw that coming and have gone on record this week, as much as it pains me to say it.

Nobody else seems bothered though, so......

Two big points seem to have gone over your head. They've already tried to get someone in, which means the board have already given DF the green light. The board do not identify the players.

You've then got to find players of the right calibre/experience who are willing to come and clubs are willing to release them.

If it was as easy as you make out, we wouldn't be having this silly debate!

[steve@dcfd]

It's time for the Board and CEO to take joint responsibility, along with a manager who didn't want to panic!

Saw that coming and have gone on record this week, as much as it pains me to say it.

Nobody else seems bothered though, so......

Two big points seem to have gone over your head. They've already tried to get someone in, which means the board have already given DF the green light. The board do not identify the players.

You've then got to find players of the right calibre/experience who are willing to come and clubs are willing to release them.

If it was as easy as you make out, we wouldn't be having this silly debate!

But how much have the board sanctioned to get players may be not enough to attract or get the players we want.
We have to sign players who are good League 1 players or above.
Message to DF we don’t need two 19/20 year olds we need players in middle twenties, again if the right funds are available, the clubs they are at want to release them and the players want to come.

[Campsall rover]

It's time for the Board and CEO to take joint responsibility, along with a manager who didn't want to panic!

Saw that coming and have gone on record this week, as much as it pains me to say it.

Nobody else seems bothered though, so......

Not sure it’s right to say nobody else seems bothered? If you canvassed a thousand people associated with the club I don’t think you’d find one that doesn’t see the need to reinforce the defence.

Ferguson says he wants two centre backs in and has had approaches rejected in the lead up to this game. We now have a few days in which to sort it.

To be fair to DF  7 days and 3 hours ago we had three very competent and fully fit centre backs.
Fast forward to today and we have them all injured. Could anybody have foreseen that scenario?
DF will be trying everything in his power to get reinforcements into the squad.
It's no good bringing in any old so & so. We need some experience & quality.
That is not going to be easy to find in January when all the clubs needs to keep a squad with some depth to it.

[mrfrostsdad]

And also a striker who can hit a cows arse with a banjo on a reasonably regular basis.
A good striker (their number 9) would have scored a bag full for us today.

[steve@dcfd]

And also a striker who can hit a cows arse with a banjo on a reasonably regular basis.
A good striker (their number 9) would have scored a bag full for us today.

We do need another striker to take the pressure off Marquis but they cost money that’s why we have young untried strikers in our team, as second striker.

[POD]

And also a striker who can hit a cows arse with a banjo on a reasonably regular basis.
A good striker (their number 9) would have scored a bag full for us today.

We do need another striker to take the pressure off Marquis but they cost money that’s why we have young untried strikers in our team, as second striker.

We can't afford the luxury of another striker, with four on the pitch today at the end and fully fit plus Kiwomya to come in next month.
We desperately need two quality central defenders.  With the defense that played today, we have little chance of winning matches, unless we can score 3 or 4 goals at the other end. 

[sedwardsdrfc]

Marquis can take the pressure off himself by taking his chances. He does so much for the team but it feels like every game I see at the end i'm thinking he should of had 2/3 easy goals. Wonder what our season would be like if even half the easy finishes went in (that doesn't just go for Marquis either)

[Jonathan]

And also a striker who can hit a cows arse with a banjo on a reasonably regular basis.
A good striker (their number 9) would have scored a bag full for us today.

We do need another striker to take the pressure off Marquis but they cost money that’s why we have young untried strikers in our team, as second striker.

Steve, if you expect us to buy a striker that is proving themself at this level (presumably we’re thinking a Jack Marriott or Keiffer Moore) then you’re being completely unrealistic and you’re setting yourself up for perennial disappointment at any business we ever do.

A club of our standing should not, cannot, and will not be bringing in players that are the current big things. We have to look at players that could be, or perhaps once were but lost their way. So why should we knock having (relatively) untried or untested players competing for places? That’s how it is at a smaller club, we have to look at potential. Beestin has lots of it and May and Mandeville have shown it at times. If we were to bring in another player then you surely have to be a bit realistic about what we can do even with money.

[DonnyOsmond]

And also a striker who can hit a cows arse with a banjo on a reasonably regular basis.
A good striker (their number 9) would have scored a bag full for us today.

We do need another striker to take the pressure off Marquis but they cost money that’s why we have young untried strikers in our team, as second striker.

Steve, if you expect us to buy a striker that is proving themself at this level (presumably we’re thinking a Jack Marriott or Keiffer Moore) then you’re being completely unrealistic and you’re setting yourself up for perennial disappointment at any business we ever do.

A club of our standing should not, cannot, and will not be bringing in players that are the current big things. We have to look at players that could be, or perhaps once were but lost their way. So why should we knock having (relatively) untried or untested players competing for places? That’s how it is at a smaller club, we have to look at potential. Beestin has lots of it and May and Mandeville have shown it at times. If we were to bring in another player then you surely have to be a bit realistic about what we can do even with money.

Look at Marriott and Moore. Marriott was signed for a few hundred grand and wasn't proven at this level and Moore was someone else who hadn't pulled up many trees previously, Rotherham signed him on loan and they got lucky. We just need to keep signing players as we are and we might find a gem, as we wont be in the market for a million pound striker.

[Filo]

It's time for the Board and CEO to take joint responsibility, along with a manager who didn't want to panic!

Saw that coming and have gone on record this week, as much as it pains me to say it.

Nobody else seems bothered though, so......

Wow! You saw 3 CB’s getting injured in a week?

[RedJ]

Selfish bas**rd, could've warned the club.

[Alan Southstand]

OK, just for the perennially sarcastic, I saw that result coming, given DF's insistence that 'Alcock was going nowhere', when a deal had almost been struck for him to go and also our general malaise this month in the window.

Signing Whiteman is great, but, he was already in our ranks and it's painfully obvious, and has been for a while, except for the rose-tinted amongst us, that the squad needed re-enforcing. Read several threads last week where I have said the same thing, so it's not even being wise after the event.

There are times when I wonder whether we're actually able to organise a piss up in a brewery!

[The Red Baron]

Had a deal been struck for Alcock? It was said that another club was interested in one of our fringe players. Everyone jumped to the conclusion it was Alcock- me included!

This afternoon's events have forced everyone's hand though. With Wright out for some time  "muddling through" is no longer an issue and at least one centre back will be needed. Messrs. Ferguson, Strachan and Wilcox will be running up big phone bills between now and Wednesday.

[since-1969]

DF is struggling to convince those who hold the purse that he can’t fix this without someone taking a bold decision to buy now possibly over the odds and save our season or wait get a poor loan that’s cheap and inexperienced  and loose the gains we’ve made so to  battle on and run the risk of dropping into the bottom 4. He may as well tell the players now who he wants for next season let those he doesn’t  need , to go now and save his budget for L2 .

[vaya]

DF is struggling to convince those who hold the purse that he can’t fix this without someone taking a bold decision to buy now possibly over the odds and save our season or wait get a poor loan that’s cheap and inexperienced  and loose the gains we’ve made so to  battle on and run the risk of dropping into the bottom 4. He may as well tell the players now who he wants for next season let those he doesn’t  need , to go now and save his budget for L2 .

Best of luck proving any of that.

[DonnyOsmond]

DF is struggling to convince those who hold the purse that he can’t fix this without someone taking a bold decision to buy now possibly over the odds and save our season or wait get a poor loan that’s cheap and inexperienced  and loose the gains we’ve made so to  battle on and run the risk of dropping into the bottom 4. He may as well tell the players now who he wants for next season let those he doesn’t  need , to go now and save his budget for L2 .

Buy now or wait and loan someone? Wait till when? We've got 4 days either way...

Also, it's "lose" not "loose". They're two different words. x

[Jonathan]

DF is struggling to convince those who hold the purse that he can’t fix this without someone taking a bold decision to buy now possibly over the odds and save our season or wait get a poor loan that’s cheap and inexperienced  and loose the gains we’ve made so to  battle on and run the risk of dropping into the bottom 4. He may as well tell the players now who he wants for next season let those he doesn’t  need , to go now and save his budget for L2 .

I beg your pardon of the week.

[vaya]

OK, just for the perennially sarcastic, I saw that result coming, given DF's insistence that 'Alcock was going nowhere', when a deal had almost been struck for him to go and also our general malaise this month in the window.

Signing Whiteman is great, but, he was already in our ranks and it's painfully obvious, and has been for a while, except for the rose-tinted amongst us, that the squad needed re-enforcing. Read several threads last week where I have said the same thing, so it's not even being wise after the event.

There are times when I wonder whether we're actually able to organise a piss up in a brewery!

Who was the deal with to sell Alcock Alan - how much were we due? Was it upfront payments or phased?

[GazLaz]

OK, just for the perennially sarcastic, I saw that result coming, given DF's insistence that 'Alcock was going nowhere', when a deal had almost been struck for him to go and also our general malaise this month in the window.

Signing Whiteman is great, but, he was already in our ranks and it's painfully obvious, and has been for a while, except for the rose-tinted amongst us, that the squad needed re-enforcing. Read several threads last week where I have said the same thing, so it's not even being wise after the event.

There are times when I wonder whether we're actually able to organise a piss up in a brewery!

Who was the deal with to sell Alcock Alan - how much were we due? Was it upfront payments or phased?

He was going to Yeovil till the end of the season I think.

[since-1969]

DF is struggling to convince those who hold the purse that he can’t fix this without someone taking a bold decision to buy now possibly over the odds and save our season or wait get a poor loan that’s cheap and inexperienced  and loose the gains we’ve made so to  battle on and run the risk of dropping into the bottom 4. He may as well tell the players now who he wants for next season let those he doesn’t  need , to go now and save his budget for L2 .

Buy now or wait and loan someone? Wait till when? We've got 4 days either way...

Also, it's "lose" not "loose". They're two different words. x

t**t is just one !

[DonnyOsmond]

DF is struggling to convince those who hold the purse that he can’t fix this without someone taking a bold decision to buy now possibly over the odds and save our season or wait get a poor loan that’s cheap and inexperienced  and loose the gains we’ve made so to  battle on and run the risk of dropping into the bottom 4. He may as well tell the players now who he wants for next season let those he doesn’t  need , to go now and save his budget for L2 .

Buy now or wait and loan someone? Wait till when? We've got 4 days either way...

Also, it's "lose" not "loose". They're two different words. x

t**t is just one !

Correct, you're learning. x

[steve@dcfd]

And also a striker who can hit a cows arse with a banjo on a reasonably regular basis.
A good striker (their number 9) would have scored a bag full for us today.

We do need another striker to take the pressure off Marquis but they cost money that’s why we have young untried strikers in our team, as second striker.

Steve, if you expect us to buy a striker that is proving themself at this level (presumably we’re thinking a Jack Marriott or Keiffer Moore) then you’re being completely unrealistic and you’re setting yourself up for perennial disappointment at any business we ever do.

A club of our standing should not, cannot, and will not be bringing in players that are the current big things. We have to look at players that could be, or perhaps once were but lost their way. So why should we knock having (relatively) untried or untested players competing for places? That’s how it is at a smaller club, we have to look at potential. Beestin has lots of it and May and Mandeville have shown it at times. If we were to bring in another player then you surely have to be a bit realistic about what we can do even with money.

John I’m not unrealistic I know the club will not go out this season and buy another striker. We should have done it in the summer, but with Williams stopping that was not done.
All I’m saying is if we had another striker of League 1 standard it would shre the work load we haven’t so our young untried strikers will have to continue developing.
Going back to the defenders all summer we wanted another centrehalf and we did not get one. We have until now done ok with the ones we had unfortunately they are all injured. We have tried to get one in but that’s not been achieved yet.
So I ask again to the ones in the know how much have the board sanctioned to get a player or players. Have we given DF enough to get the ones he wants or are League one defenders and above out of our reach as well.

[eastender]

It's time for the Board and CEO to take joint responsibility, along with a manager who didn't want to panic!

Saw that coming and have gone on record this week, as much as it pains me to say it.

Nobody else seems bothered though, so......

Not sure it’s right to say nobody else seems bothered? If you canvassed a thousand people associated with the club I don’t think you’d find one that doesn’t see the need to reinforce the defence.

Ferguson says he wants two centre backs in and has had approaches rejected in the lead up to this game. We now have a few days in which to sort it.

To be fair to DF  7 days and 3 hours ago we had three very competent and fully fit centre backs.
Fast forward to today and we have them all injured. Could anybody have foreseen that scenario?

People seem to forget , it's not just this past week that's to blame defence wise.
We've not been good enough all season , we've been shipping in goals nearly every game from set pieces and crosses .
Nearly everyone's said that we've needed to strengthen month's a go , not just this week. 
Fact is our defence is not tall enough or physically strong enough too cope at this level.
The last time we escaped this division we had  Quinn , Jones , McCombe and Spurr as a back 4 , who of our current squad would dislodge any of them, taking in all their attributes ,including height ,strength and ability.
IMHO non.