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Bentley Bullet

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #30 on February 10, 2018, 09:57:48 pm by Bentley Bullet »
With our competitive budget and Fergie's history of producing high scoring and entertaining sides, I thought we'd rip a few defences up with high paced attacking football. So in that respect, yes, I did expect us to rip up the division, at least more than we have done.

On the contrary to that, our football has been slow, side to side, backwards, big boot forward, and mind-numbingly boring most of the time.



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Wiltshire Exile

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #31 on February 10, 2018, 10:09:00 pm by Wiltshire Exile »
Sorry Darren but today was just not good enough and if that is the best you can deliver to us, then I believe it is time for you to consider your position at DRFC

Your team selection (positions) was simply awful, Tommy Roe at left back, was you on the red wine last night?

You continue to instruct the player to start playing from the left or right corner of the pitch, not just today but every game. It just doesn't work and it appears everyone can see this apart from you.

I hate to post and say this but if you continue in this vein, i fear the worst and L2 is looming

The one positive from today, although he made some poor passes, Luke looked very strong particularly considering how long he has been out.
Well done Luke you have obviously put a lot of work in to get back, good luck for rest of season

Here we go again.  :crying:   :facepalm:

Pancho Regan

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #32 on February 10, 2018, 10:10:35 pm by Pancho Regan »
With our competitive budget and Fergie's history of producing high scoring and entertaining sides, I thought we'd rip a few defences up with high paced attacking football. So in that respect, yes, I did expect us to rip up the division, at least more than we have done.

On the contrary to that, our football has been slow, side to side, backwards, big boot forward, and mind-numbingly boring most of the time.

Hard to disagree with that.

esdailles left foot

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #33 on February 10, 2018, 10:11:35 pm by esdailles left foot »
This is what I’ve been saying for months whilst getting absolutely slated. Glad to see some people have seen the light.

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #34 on February 10, 2018, 10:12:03 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Steve

And yet, for the last 24 games we’ve been a couple of dodgy refereeing decisions off play off form.

I’m not passing comment on the strength of the squad. I’ve got my own opinions on that and they are as worthless as anyone else’s. I’m just stating the facts.

dickos1

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« Reply #35 on February 10, 2018, 10:28:07 pm by dickos1 »
Peterborough away
Shrewsbury away
Scunthorpe away
Portsmouth away
Everyone would have snapped your hand off to get 4 points from these fixtures, the home form has been poor.
But we've lost one game out of 11 games and we've people asking for the manager to be sacked.
Get a grip

no eyed deer

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« Reply #36 on February 10, 2018, 10:32:41 pm by no eyed deer »
This is why i dont go anymore. I wont go till he's gone

I hope you don’t come back for a long time then - I support DRFC irrespective of who the manager is



COYR
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CGJ

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #37 on February 10, 2018, 10:35:19 pm by CGJ »
Not one to knock, but could not believe the obvious out of position locations he picked for several players contributing to the debacle of a first half today.
Why did it take him 35 mins to attempt to rectify it - the crowd could see it from the start.

 

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #38 on February 10, 2018, 10:40:51 pm by Donnywolf »
To add to my last post, I'm not defending today. We were crap!

But the fact we've been crap but not rolling over is a positive sign. We'll get a win soon enough.

2 in fact Walsall then Fleetwood !

lee.j09

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« Reply #39 on February 10, 2018, 10:43:26 pm by lee.j09 »
No win in 8 isn’t acceptable!

He’s clueless, we concede the same goals week in week out! Marking from a set piece really is Sunday league stuff, man mark get tight and make sure they don’t get a run on you. Really is simple stuff!

dickos1

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« Reply #40 on February 10, 2018, 10:44:03 pm by dickos1 »
Ferguson’s average then.
However to get to safety we will have to win some matches because we are bound to lose some as well

How is it his average?

Also, last 11 games we've won 3, drawn 7 and lost 1, so why are you saying we have to win some matches as we're bound to lose some? The facts would say we're far more likely to be bound to win some matches than we are lose

dickos1

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« Reply #41 on February 10, 2018, 10:46:36 pm by dickos1 »
No win in 8 isn’t acceptable!

He’s clueless, we concede the same goals week in week out! Marking from a set piece really is Sunday league stuff, man mark get tight and make sure they don’t get a run on you. Really is simple stuff!

0 win in 8, 4 of the toughest away matches you could wish for, and we remained unbeaten.
1 defeat in 11 games.
Always two ways of looking at it

lee.j09

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #42 on February 10, 2018, 10:52:53 pm by lee.j09 »
No win in 8 isn’t acceptable!

He’s clueless, we concede the same goals week in week out! Marking from a set piece really is Sunday league stuff, man mark get tight and make sure they don’t get a run on you. Really is simple stuff!

0 win in 8, 4 of the toughest away matches you could wish for, and we remained unbeaten.
1 defeat in 11 games.
Always two ways of looking at it

It’s relegation form.

dickos1

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #43 on February 10, 2018, 11:03:00 pm by dickos1 »
What is?
Our last 11 games we've got 16 points!
That isn't relegation form

Herman Hessian

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #44 on February 10, 2018, 11:41:00 pm by Herman Hessian »
No win in 8 isn’t acceptable!

He’s clueless, we concede the same goals week in week out! Marking from a set piece really is Sunday league stuff, man mark get tight and make sure they don’t get a run on you. Really is simple stuff!

0 win in 8, 4 of the toughest away matches you could wish for, and we remained unbeaten.
1 defeat in 11 games.
Always two ways of looking at it

It’s relegation form.

you're properly retarded, aren't you - i mean, it's great that you can use a keyboard and form something close to cogent thoughts and the rest, but really, relegation form over the last eleven games - it's guaranteed top half stuff, borderline play-off contention !

you're welcome to now list the numerous occasions that a team has been relegated with 67 points from a 46 game season, but i ain't going to hold my breath waiting for you to come up with examples

jesus....

edit: my bad - it's not guaranteed top half points accumulation; walsall once finished in 13th place with 67 points by virtue of scoring fewer goals than the team they were tied with (same goal difference)
« Last Edit: February 11, 2018, 12:02:29 am by Herman Hessian »

nortikorner

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #45 on February 11, 2018, 12:43:36 am by nortikorner »
Herman Hessian

you're properly retarded, aren't you

Thats offensive and should be removed
people have a opinion and should not be abused

Donny Exile in York

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #46 on February 11, 2018, 05:46:56 am by Donny Exile in York »
I think people are forgetting are 1st choice left back is out for the season and another  loanee got injured too and one of the reasons we didn't replace him probably was the immediate need for two centre halves in the last days of the window. Garrett is young and inconsistent and so is Mason who is better on the left. I am not saying I don't prefer Rowe further forward or that we don't miss his goals from midfield but I do think given a set budget Ferguson has to work with what he's got and sometimes Rowe has proved an impact from left wing back. I am not saying it's ideal but due to Andrews injury I think Fergie is tied somewhat with left back selections.

Alan Southstand

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« Reply #47 on February 11, 2018, 07:21:51 am by Alan Southstand »
I take it you mean Mason is better on the right?

We have limited resources and we don't have enough experienced players within those limited resources, so why juggle the balls continuously? He is making things worse, not better, by tinkering and messing about with players changing positions.

Play Rowe where he gives maximum benefit, ideally at the point of the diamond - he is our best creative player now, with Copps on the wane. If Garrett is not up to it, then we need to set our stall out in the summer and get better. Likewise, right back. Who is our best right back, currently - Blair or Mason? For me, we don't have a good enough player there and we need one of them also, but Mason is Definately the better of the 2 we have got, so play him there.

Midfield? Jesus, where do you start? Scrap the diamond and play a flat 4, for starters (especially if Copps can't play every game). Rowe reverts to left side, Blair on the right ( our worst player yesterday but the only other choice is Kongolo) and Houghton/Whiteman partnership in the middle.

Up top, we're struggling to find a partner for JM, hopefully Alex will improve, with Beestin still on the learning curve and AM now behind him.

A keeper that even dares to come off his line at corners would be more than useful - 3 or 4 strides and Lawlor is catching that ball, yesterday. He is absolutely superglued to his line at set pieces. He simply has to start getting this right - end of.

Also, playing a high line is just not on, with the 2 new cb's. Neither of them have the pace. Has nobody noticed that in training this week? Exposed so many times yesterday.

DF, you have your work cut out this week, if we're not to fall into the bottom 4. Make no mistake, we were very, very lucky, yesterday.

glosterred

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #48 on February 11, 2018, 07:53:48 am by glosterred »
This is why i dont go anymore. I wont go till he's gone

I hope you don’t come back for a long time then - I support DRFC irrespective of who the manager is



COYR
Bull $hit

No it is true, I support Doncaster Rovers irrespective of who the manager is


COYR

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #49 on February 11, 2018, 08:33:38 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
All season we've not been able to play decent football for more than 45 mins. For some games, we've not even managed that as we see time and time again, the very basics of what you need in a team is absent. To compound things even more, we've seen periods where panic has set in and even the better players out on the pitch can't control or pass a ball 5 yards.

You do wonder whether DF spends too much time working on formations, changing formations and trying to get players to adapt to it, rather than getting the basics drilled into players and sticking to a simple formula. Just making it too complicated. Running before we can walk.

Our most influential players. Copps can't play 90 minutes every game. Rowe, disappears for long periods. He maybe one of the few players who will try to attack teams but he also over complicates things at times. Houghton, his influence seems to be diminishing game by game. There are only two players that you can say who have been consistent all season and they are Butler and Marquis. That's just not enough to be a team challenging.

This is not a board or a budget issue, it's DFs responsibility to define a minimum standard.

The Red Baron

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #50 on February 11, 2018, 08:39:25 am by The Red Baron »
Our League position is about what I expected. However the football has often been tedious to watch. Slow and predictable build up, no width and not enough chances created. I really don't look forward to games at the moment.

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« Reply #51 on February 11, 2018, 08:55:14 am by Campsall rover »
Peterborough away
Shrewsbury away
Scunthorpe away
Portsmouth away
Everyone would have snapped your hand off to get 4 points from these fixtures, the home form has been poor.
But we've lost one game out of 11 games and we've people asking for the manager to be sacked.
Get a grip
I haven’t seen one post saying he should be sacked. What we are despairing at is Fergie tactics and constantly playing people out of position. Unable to defend corners week in week out.
Those four draws were excellent points yes.

lee.j09

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« Reply #52 on February 11, 2018, 09:57:03 am by lee.j09 »
No win in 8 isn’t acceptable!

He’s clueless, we concede the same goals week in week out! Marking from a set piece really is Sunday league stuff, man mark get tight and make sure they don’t get a run on you. Really is simple stuff!

0 win in 8, 4 of the toughest away matches you could wish for, and we remained unbeaten.
1 defeat in 11 games.
Always two ways of looking at it

It’s relegation form.

you're properly retarded, aren't you - i mean, it's great that you can use a keyboard and form something close to cogent thoughts and the rest, but really, relegation form over the last eleven games - it's guaranteed top half stuff, borderline play-off contention !

you're welcome to now list the numerous occasions that a team has been relegated with 67 points from a 46 game season, but i ain't going to hold my breath waiting for you to come up with examples

jesus....

edit: my bad - it's not guaranteed top half points accumulation; walsall once finished in 13th place with 67 points by virtue of scoring fewer goals than the team they were tied with (same goal difference)

That’s not very kind is it.
Glad you can call me retarded through your keyboard!
We can always have a discussion about our views over a pint if you like?
You may not resort into calling me retarded then.

Oh and please explain where I have said we have or will have 67 points?

Look at ferguasons previous seasons, we always end badly. Last season for example!
« Last Edit: February 11, 2018, 09:59:43 am by lee.j09 »

RedJ

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« Reply #53 on February 11, 2018, 10:10:39 am by RedJ »
Peterborough away
Shrewsbury away
Scunthorpe away
Portsmouth away
Everyone would have snapped your hand off to get 4 points from these fixtures, the home form has been poor.
But we've lost one game out of 11 games and we've people asking for the manager to be sacked.
Get a grip
I haven’t seen one post saying he should be sacked. What we are despairing at is Fergie tactics and constantly playing people out of position. Unable to defend corners week in week out.
Those four draws were excellent points yes.

Typical dickos. Kicking off about what he thinks people have said and biting at any hint of negativity.

Chris Black come back

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #54 on February 11, 2018, 10:11:18 am by Chris Black come back »
Our League position is about what I expected. However the football has often been tedious to watch. Slow and predictable build up, no width and not enough chances created. I really don't look forward to games at the moment.

I find myself agreeing with all of this TRB.

Given our budget we are doing marginally worse than you might expect with those resources. It is still very disjointed in terms of tactics, performance and results.

Perhaps this is a work in progress and things will come together next season. If we are in same place this time next season I would expect the Board to be asking very serious questions.

For now, we will likely be safe this season, so that is something at least.

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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH MR FERGUSON
« Reply #55 on February 11, 2018, 10:12:51 am by Michael Shaw »
According to my records we were 17th in League One when Dickov walked out the door after the Gillingham game on 5th September 2016. Two years of Ferguson and we are now sitting at 15th in the same league. Is that the record of a successful manager? What I find disconcerting is his belief that draws and a mediocre performance are acceptable.

We have picked up only 6 points from the last 7 games and that is the record of a team that would be relegated over a full season. Don’t be fooled by our current mid-table position as most teams in League One have games in hand over us and that will drive our true position down. Unless we pick up more points soon we could be in trouble.

The squad we have at the moment are not tough enough to cope with the nasty physical side that comes at the end of every season. I would swap ALL our strikers for one Billy Sharp any day.

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« Reply #56 on February 11, 2018, 10:20:03 am by Chris Black come back »
We are ten points off the last play off place and six points off the last relegation place, with most teams below us having games in hand on us. Our goal difference is vastly superior to just about any team below us currently.

Michael Shaw

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« Reply #57 on February 11, 2018, 10:38:50 am by Michael Shaw »
This forum can forever discuss the merits and shortcomings of individual players and the manager, but it's points and the table position that really matters. We are looking pretty precarious right now if most teams around us win their games in hand.
I don't want to ever see League Two ever again.
RTID.

Herman Hessian

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« Reply #58 on February 11, 2018, 11:30:36 am by Herman Hessian »
Oh and please explain where I have said we have or will have 67 points?

the eleven games which you consider to be relegation form have yielded 16 points; as our colonial cousins would say, you do the math (to extrapolate that over an entire season...)

and as for your very civil invitation, no thanks, i'm just a gobshite keyboard warrior who, as everyone will confirm, has neither courage in my convictions, principles or sense of common decency - best ignored - but that doesn't make you any less wrong  ;)

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« Reply #59 on February 11, 2018, 11:37:53 am by sheffield exile1 »
This forum can forever discuss the merits and shortcomings of individual players and the manager, but it's points and the table position that really matters. We are looking pretty precarious right now if most teams around us win their games in hand.
I don't want to ever see League Two ever again.
RTID.
Those of us who remember the many years we dallied with relegation from the football league until our eventual ridiculous demise never want a return to league 2. Saying that I too am not a Fergie fan. Absolute dross. Peterborough were there for the taking, yes great comeback at Shrewsbury, but I am not looking forward to home matches at the moment and I do feel we are in real danger!

 

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