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The Red Baron

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Re: New manager options
« Reply #30 on February 14, 2018, 12:45:45 pm by The Red Baron »
I don't expect that Ferguson is imminently to be sacked. He has done a lot of good work.  The recent performances are a real problem and he has to stop the rot quickly.  He has got a lot of fair reasons for there being an issue.

Equally if I was the owners and chief exec I would be putting feelers and a small contingency plan in place.  They would be foolish not to. He will have targets and have to meet them. Ultimately us fans don't know what they think but they'll have thoughts.

The question is I suppose when do you say enough is enough? I don't think he could survive another couple of displays like that, especially at home. Whether we stay up or not I'd be taking a long look at whether he's the right man to take us forward.



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donny dave

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Re: New manager options
« Reply #31 on February 14, 2018, 12:53:43 pm by donny dave »
What about Mr Evans.

Colemans Left Hook

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« Reply #32 on February 14, 2018, 01:16:31 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
What about Mr Evans.
there is no way he would leave mid season they lost on saturday first loss in about 16 - lost very few matches this season - yes he did consider Gillingham earlier this season (i laughed it off wrongly) confident they will finish 2nd

shrewsbury are stuffed full of loanees accrington are also stuffed full of loanees - could argue the managers struck it lucky

remember that shrewsbury manager when they played braintree in the play offs (and losing the ist leg) being on very shaky ground    if he lost the 2nd leg he would have been sacked

i always reckoned shaun derry would become an Alan Pardew clone and manage at least in th e Championship and i'll stick with him to become a decent manager one day and i was shocked to find out last night he had been sacked on friday

just remembered seeing him derry quoted in the odds when ferdie was 14/1 for the job   - wonder if he got an interview
« Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 01:22:41 pm by Colemans Left Hook »

Campsall rover

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« Reply #33 on February 14, 2018, 02:03:21 pm by Campsall rover »
What about Mr Evans.
there is no way he would leave mid season they lost on saturday first loss in about 16 - lost very few matches this season - yes he did consider Gillingham earlier this season (i laughed it off wrongly) confident they will finish 2nd

shrewsbury are stuffed full of loanees accrington are also stuffed full of loanees - could argue the managers struck it lucky

remember that shrewsbury manager when they played braintree in the play offs (and losing the ist leg) being on very shaky ground    if he lost the 2nd leg he would have been sacked

i always reckoned shaun derry would become an Alan Pardew clone and manage at least in th e Championship and i'll stick with him to become a decent manager one day and i was shocked to find out last night he had been sacked on friday

just remembered seeing him derry quoted in the odds when ferdie was 14/1 for the job   - wonder if he got an interview
Shaun Derry no no no, thanks but that’s a no from me.

Draytonian III

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Re: New manager options
« Reply #34 on February 14, 2018, 03:16:46 pm by Draytonian III »
If Russ Wilcox was to take charge his assistant would be John Schofield, teammates from years ago

Chris Black come back

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« Reply #35 on February 14, 2018, 03:24:46 pm by Chris Black come back »
We are stuck with Ferguson probably until January next year, at the earliest.

I cannot see him getting us relegated this season (although it looks quite tight) and the Board will see that as the bare minimum completed by keeping us in League One.

Their expectations will likely be that we are by mid-point of next season, competitive and consistently in top half or bottom half, looking to challenge for promotion.

If that is not the case come the January window, then you cannot really see how their Five Year Plan is achievable with yet another modest season in League One looming.

big fat yorkshire pudding

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« Reply #36 on February 14, 2018, 03:43:27 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Nobody has mentioned Steve McLaren yet?

Campsall rover

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« Reply #37 on February 14, 2018, 03:52:29 pm by Campsall rover »
Nobody has mentioned Steve McLaren yet?
Would he go down as far as League 1?

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« Reply #38 on February 14, 2018, 04:05:29 pm by idler »
He might if he took over a championship side. 😉

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« Reply #39 on February 14, 2018, 04:33:53 pm by esdailles left foot »
  I would go for the Accrington manager If I went for anyone other than Fergie that is. Or would fans accept Dean Saunders back?
As you know from our discussion on the coach last night Brian, I would have him back quick as I could get him here. In fact I would go and pick him up myself and bring him here. I would eve claim the fuel costs from the club either.
By heck it might not be pretty but he would sort them out. 4-4-2 and everyone would have a defined role in the team. No tinkering, happy players great team spirit. BRING IT ON. Trouble is he wouldn’t come back to us, well I doubt it anyway. Would need to give him a contract till summer of 2020 on good money I reckon to even get him remotely interested.


Good team spirit !!! err have a word with Copps

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« Reply #40 on February 14, 2018, 05:36:03 pm by drfchound »
Filo I hope you are right, but the crowd's reaction last night was not the best, and if things do not improve the pressure will crank up.

The crowds reaction when we lose and put in a poor performance is never the best, it's what fickle football fans do. A decent win on Saturday and those same fans will the singing Fergies name





Something we very rarely here these days, fans singing DF’s name.

sheffield exile1

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« Reply #41 on February 14, 2018, 05:56:18 pm by sheffield exile1 »
We are stuck with Ferguson probably until January next year, at the earliest.

I cannot see him getting us relegated this season (although it looks quite tight) and the Board will see that as the bare minimum completed by keeping us in League One.

Their expectations will likely be that we are by mid-point of next season, competitive and consistently in top half or bottom half, looking to challenge for promotion.

If that is not the case come the January window, then you cannot really see how their Five Year Plan is achievable with yet another modest season in League One looming.

We couldn't see him getting us relegated 2 years ago. As last night we were hammered by Colchester Good Friday by 4 goals and never recovered. Enough is enough, I am off the fence, not maliscious, but don't want a return to league 2 which is very (too) possible!

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« Reply #42 on February 14, 2018, 06:00:54 pm by drfchound »
Based on his team selection post on another thread, Filo would be a good shout.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 07:48:06 pm by drfchound »

The Red Baron

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« Reply #43 on February 14, 2018, 06:36:58 pm by The Red Baron »
We are stuck with Ferguson probably until January next year, at the earliest.

I cannot see him getting us relegated this season (although it looks quite tight) and the Board will see that as the bare minimum completed by keeping us in League One.

Their expectations will likely be that we are by mid-point of next season, competitive and consistently in top half or bottom half, looking to challenge for promotion.

If that is not the case come the January window, then you cannot really see how their Five Year Plan is achievable with yet another modest season in League One looming.

We couldn't see him getting us relegated 2 years ago. As last night we were hammered by Colchester Good Friday by 4 goals and never recovered. Enough is enough, I am off the fence, not maliscious, but don't want a return to league 2 which is very (too) possible!

Walsall are a better side than Colchester were, but I knew the writing was on the wall after that one. There are a few poor teams we have to play and if we get a hammering from them I'll be seriously worried.

Draytonian III

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« Reply #44 on February 14, 2018, 07:15:54 pm by Draytonian III »
Dean Saunders, how many relegations has he been involved in ? He's one of the reasons the Chesterfield are where they are,brought in to many poor/below average players.

RedJ

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« Reply #45 on February 14, 2018, 07:17:00 pm by RedJ »
Is he? not that they sold their best players and didn't give him the funds to replace them then?

Draytonian III

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« Reply #46 on February 14, 2018, 07:25:20 pm by Draytonian III »
I've got a couple of mates who are season ticket holders in North Derbyshire and they along with a lot of others blame him for starting the rot

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« Reply #47 on February 14, 2018, 07:28:28 pm by silent majority »
I've got a couple of mates who are season ticket holders in North Derbyshire and they along with a lot of others blame him for starting the rot

Chesterfields problem was Dave Allen cancelling all his financial contributions and stepping down from the board. The inevitable happens after that.


RedJ

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« Reply #48 on February 14, 2018, 07:34:19 pm by RedJ »
I've got a couple of mates who are season ticket holders in North Derbyshire and they along with a lot of others blame him for starting the rot

Ah, definitely means he was the reason then.

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« Reply #49 on February 14, 2018, 08:30:26 pm by BigH »
Russell Slade?

The Red Baron

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« Reply #50 on February 14, 2018, 08:34:54 pm by The Red Baron »
Russell Slade?

I used to think he was a decent lower league manager, but he's been a disaster in his last few jobs.

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« Reply #51 on February 14, 2018, 08:46:49 pm by Draytonian III »
I'm only saying what I was told and believe, I still don't get this love-in for Dean Saunders, he left with over 2/5 of the season to go, don't blame hi for trying to better himself at Wolves, but he didn't get us promoted on his own. Also how many teams has he been involved in that got relegated in a 5 to 6 year period.
  A good manager is not someone can talk to media all laughing and joking, like I don't think Klopp is a good manager.

The Red Baron

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« Reply #52 on February 14, 2018, 08:56:21 pm by The Red Baron »
I often wonder whether we would have got promoted with Saunders in charge. Lest we forget, just before he went off to Wolves he signed Lee Fowler and Emile Sinclair, both of whom were bobbins. Flynn and Jones played them very sparingly.

I thought that duo got us promoted. Flynn organised things and Jones provided the leadership. Jones on his own wasn't particularly a success as caretaker manager, but maybe with Flynn alongside him he'd have done better.

BigH

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« Reply #53 on February 14, 2018, 08:56:27 pm by BigH »
Russell Slade?

I used to think he was a decent lower league manager, but he's been a disaster in his last few jobs.
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« Reply #54 on February 14, 2018, 10:36:44 pm by Chris Black come back »
Alf Ramsey with Alex Ferguson as his assistant and Brian Clough as kit man could not have kept us up in The Experiment season. Absolutely crackers and totally impossible to manage.

He looked at that League One season ruthlessly and built a team to get out of there, but by playing truly awful football and without any thought to what happened to his Dirty Dozen if we made it to the Championship.

It was atrocious football game after game, but with basically a brand new side, he did a cracking job of getting us up there and in great position when he left us. Think that was a job ruthlessly well done. 

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« Reply #55 on February 15, 2018, 01:07:28 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
just remembered a good manager who would do a good job (would he get on with the board)

sweet little harmless "nice" "well mannered" Billy Davies been out of works since ???? :chair: :chair:

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« Reply #56 on February 15, 2018, 01:24:29 pm by Campsall rover »
just remembered a good manager who would do a good job (would he get on with the board)

sweet little harmless "nice" "well mannered" Billy Davies been out of works since ???? :chair: :chair:
Your kidding, another no thankyou from me. He would want a playing budget of £10,000,000 just for starters. After he had squandered that, by January would be asking for another £5,000,000

 

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