Paul Goodwin

[scawsby steve]

Don't know if you've seen it guys, but in the DFP today, Paul Goodwin says "will Darren Ferguson-who wanted a bigger budget to get more experienced players-ultimately be proved right?".

[Glyn_Wigley]

Where's Fergie said this?

[roversdude]

What a throw away statement from a journalist looking at stirring debate

[selby]

  I thought he was a journalist. And he wants us to answer his question on a subject that may not be true.
 Sack the twerp.

[GazLaz]

If you think Goodwin hasn’t spoken to Fergie since he went you are all very naive.

[selby]

  Gaz, yesterday's fish and chip paper to us mate, yesterday's man.  His opinion holds no more water than yours or mine now.

[GazLaz]

  Gaz, yesterday's fish and chip paper to us mate, yesterday's man.  His opinion holds no more water than yours or mine now.

That’s presuming it is just opinion....

[scawsby steve]

  Gaz, yesterday's fish and chip paper to us mate, yesterday's man.  His opinion holds no more water than yours or mine now.

Brian, are you saying that Paul Goodwin's a liar?.

[Glyn_Wigley]

  Gaz, yesterday's fish and chip paper to us mate, yesterday's man.  His opinion holds no more water than yours or mine now.

Brian, are you saying that Paul Goodwin's a liar?.

Doesn't he read his own paper?

[mjg]

Isn’t Taylor experienced 🤔

[selby]

  Steve, I wrote may on the subject, specifically because neither side has corroborated one way or the other to satisfy me for certain just what facts lie behind his leaving.
  At the moment all we really have is some people saying one thing and denials by the other side.
  The fact is the bloke has left, he resigned and the why's and wherefores do not interest me in the slightest.
  I do not see any interest in a journalist, who ignores the present happenings at the club, probably because he is out of the loop now, and tries to instigate a public debate over something that happened quite a while ago, other than to rake up trouble and ill feelings in the supporters ranks, while they do his job for him.
 

[scawsby steve]

Isn’t Taylor experienced 🤔

Yes, very much so; what's your point?.

[ZiggerZagger]

Just read the paper, terrible, his answers to the questions sound like he's not a happy bunny anymore. In with Fergie, not with McCann. So much for getting the fans excited about the coming season. Total contrast to Liam.

[Sprotyrover]

Fergusson was ok when his dad could throw three or four Man Utd Starlets his way on season long loans, he struggled at our club because he was out of his depth without massive financial resources.

[dickos1]

He only did that at Preston and struggled.
We can only safely say he failed if mcann takes this squad much higher up the table.

[Filo]

He only did that at Preston and struggled.
We can only safely say he failed if mcann takes this squad much higher up the table.

He loaned Scott Wooton,Ben Amos, Ryan Tunnicliffe and Nicky Ajose from Man utd for Peterborough in one season

[The Red Baron]

Don't know if you've seen it guys, but in the DFP today, Paul Goodwin says "will Darren Ferguson-who wanted a bigger budget to get more experienced players-ultimately be proved right?".

It seems that Mr. Goodwin is stirring the pot, probably because he's seen the meltdown that happens on here every time someone mentions the  "B" word.

However, I think there is probably truth in what he says about Ferguson. I fancy he did want a significantly bigger budget and more experienced players, blaming the collapses of the last three seasons on inexperience rather than any errors on his part.

On the other hand, bringing in a number of experienced players would have run counter to the Board's current model- sign and develop young players with the aim of selling on for a profit.

A manager with more credit in the bank than Ferguson might have persuaded the Board to change direction. However he had largely dissipated that. Relegation in his first season, finishing third in a one horse race and then the limp end to last season did him no favours. However, from the Board's point of view his tendency to offer players extended contracts and then to declare them surplus to requirements was probably the clincher. Imagine Fergie signing a thirtysomething midfield general with whom he then fell out, and having a big earner training with the youth team.

I think the Board were probably prepared to give him at least until Christmas to see if he could work to their plan and if things were going well maybe loosen the purse strings. However Ferguson wasn't prepared to work under those constraints. Only time will tell, but if McCann gets us playing a more entertaining brand of football with a young squad I for one will be happy. I certainly won't miss some of the turgid stuff I saw last season.

[dickos1]

He only did that at Preston and struggled.
We can only safely say he failed if mcann takes this squad much higher up the table.

He loaned Scott Wooton,Ben Amos, Ryan Tunnicliffe and Nicky Ajose from Man utd for Peterborough in one season

Don’t know about the others but he bought Ajose didn’t sign him on loan and ben Amos loan was a good few years earlier than that

[silent majority]

Just read the paper, terrible, his answers to the questions sound like he's not a happy bunny anymore. In with Fergie, not with McCann. So much for getting the fans excited about the coming season. Total contrast to Liam.

Is this online anywhere?

[Filo]

He only did that at Preston and struggled.
We can only safely say he failed if mcann takes this squad much higher up the table.

He loaned Scott Wooton,Ben Amos, Ryan Tunnicliffe and Nicky Ajose from Man utd for Peterborough in one season

Don’t know about the others but he bought Ajose didn’t sign him on loan and ben Amos loan was a good few years earlier than that

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11764/8388873/darren-ferguson-rejects-claims-of-nepotism-over-loanees-from-manchester-united

[the vicar]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

[silent majority]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

[RedJ]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

If by "all the whets" you mean people who don't jump to conclusions and decide opinion is fact because it fits their narrative.

[Jonathan]

I’ve read the paper and I don’t see anything wrong with what Paul has said at all.

He’s predicted we’ll finish 12th which I think is a realistic aim and an improvement on last season. All the Free Press guys have been open about the fact that we could challenge for promotion but we can’t expect promotion as there are too many unknowns. Again this is realism.

Paul Goodwin expresses the opinion that we needed to bring in a goalscorer and an experienced midfield destroyer. It’s an opinion I share and so do many on here I think. We haven’t addressed those areas and on that basis how could you be expected to make any brash statements about a march to the Championship?

I think the whole Q&A is fair, balanced and an interesting read.

Nowhere does Paul or anyone else state that Ferguson left because he wanted a bigger budget.

[RedJ]

Exactly. Darren Ferguson has not once stated he left because he wanted a bigger budget.

As someone else said the other day, people have put 2 and 2 together and got diarrhoea.

[Lifelong supporter]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

It really is laughable now, and the club NEVER said 'it was nothing to do with the budget'.
In fact, in his piece in the Free Press, Gavin was very careful not to do that. 

[the vicar]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

no I don't mean that but if he did make a statement some wouldn't believe him and say he was lieing

[the vicar]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

If by "all the whets" you mean people who don't jump to conclusions and decide opinion is fact because it fits their narrative.

no whets that think the sun shines out of the directors arses, I for one don't, I'm not against them like I was, but I don't think all they say is the truth cos I'm not daft enough to think all they say is the truth, sometimes they have to stretch the truth cos if they dint fans would walk away so they have to at times

[Ldr]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

It really is laughable now, and the club NEVER said 'it was nothing to do with the budget'.
In fact, in his piece in the Free Press, Gavin was very careful not to do that. 

They've not denied that there was Russian interference either, by your logic that must be true as well

[vaya]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

It really is laughable now, and the club NEVER said 'it was nothing to do with the budget'.
In fact, in his piece in the Free Press, Gavin was very careful not to do that. 

They've not denied that there was Russian interference either, by your logic that must be true as well

Similarly they've failed to deny there's an imminent attack by Godzilla and/or Mothra.

On the same logic this is presumably on the cards as well. Exciting times at the Keepmoat ahead kids.