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Filo

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Big club syndrome
« on October 23, 2018, 10:06:57 pm by Filo »
The official were riddled with it tonight Sunderland got away with GBH tonight!



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pib

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #1 on October 23, 2018, 10:34:35 pm by pib »
Ridiculous. Another abysmal refereeing performance. How many bookable offences was Cattermole permitted to get away with before he was sent off?

I barely ever comment on refs but the one at Rochdale and then this utter tool tonight have stood out a mile as two of the most inept officials I've seen for a while.

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #2 on October 23, 2018, 10:35:19 pm by GazLaz »
We put in some shocking challenges as well. Whitemans was horrible.

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #3 on October 23, 2018, 10:37:11 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
We put in some shocking challenges as well. Whitemans was horrible.

Agree. I think the ref opened the game up to it by being frankly poor.  Hisnise of the advantage rule or lack of at times was woeful.  We Made a few bad challenges, but 6 yellows????

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #4 on October 23, 2018, 10:39:35 pm by drfchound »
The official were riddled with it tonight Sunderland got away with GBH tonight!





I said the same thing to my mates at the game after about twenty minutes.

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #5 on October 23, 2018, 10:53:36 pm by Donnywolf »
We put in some shocking challenges as well. Whitemans was horrible.

Agree. I think the ref opened the game up to it by being frankly poor.  Hisnise of the advantage rule or lack of at times was woeful.  We Made a few bad challenges, but 6 yellows????

We did make some clattereing challenges - and the Officials were poor BUT it always pains me when we pick up Cards for spouting. At least 2 tonight.

JM wears his heart on his  sleeve so when Wilks was taken shin high in front of the dug outs their Player should have been booked but he was not . JM waded in with a few choice words and picked up a Card.

Like his passion but tonight I would have sooner seen him booked for clattering 17 or 8 or that awful Cattermole - and the same for Joe Wright

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #6 on October 23, 2018, 10:58:52 pm by GazLaz »
I said to my mate that it was definitely a game you could get away with a bad challenge. What I’d call a yellow and a half. I’d have been using my challenge very wisely if I’d have been playing.

Filo

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #7 on October 23, 2018, 11:01:47 pm by Filo »
I said to my mate that it was definitely a game you could get away with a bad challenge. What I’d call a yellow and a half. I’d have been using my challenge very wisely if I’d have been playing.

Yes, straight through Gooch, their best player by a mile and Andrew left him to n acres of space at times

Donnywolf

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #8 on October 23, 2018, 11:02:25 pm by Donnywolf »
I would not have been so restrained. I would have gone and clogged Cattermole straight away and before the Ref could get me I would have clogged that excuse for a Lino in his privates ! With his eyes watering he would have at least an excuse for all the mistakes he would be making in the coming 90 minutes

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #9 on October 23, 2018, 11:07:21 pm by POD »
We did make some clattereing challenges - and the Officials were poor BUT it always pains me when we pick up Cards for spouting. [/quote]

Joe Wright’s booking for throwing the ball away was petulant.  He’s now on 6 cards and well on the way now to a two match ban. 

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #10 on October 23, 2018, 11:07:55 pm by PDX_Rover »
Cattermole set his stall out after 7 minutes when he went right through the back of Marquis I think it was. Yellow card all day. Got a yellow after 15 minutes for another bad one and then had another two or three thst could easily have been yellows.

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #11 on October 23, 2018, 11:08:42 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Their 'big club' arrogance won them the game. It was reminiscent of when L**ds played at the Keepmoat. Rovers stood up to them but the Referee was intimidated and favoured them.

Quite simply they are better at cheating than us.

PDX_Rover

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #12 on October 23, 2018, 11:10:31 pm by PDX_Rover »
Ridiculous. Another abysmal refereeing performance. How many bookable offences was Cattermole permitted to get away with before he was sent off?

I barely ever comment on refs but the one at Rochdale and then this utter tool tonight have stood out a mile as two of the most inept officials I've seen for a while.

He was subbed before he was sent off I think. Players like him you need to give one to think about first.

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #13 on October 23, 2018, 11:11:20 pm by drfchound »
Cattermole set his stall out after 7 minutes when he went right through the back of Marquis I think it was. Yellow card all day. Got a yellow after 15 minutes for another bad one and then had another two or three thst could easily have been yellows.





I think the one you are referring to was on Copps, early in the game and about on halfway.
I was expecting someone to clatter Copps and Kane early on and sure enough it happened.

Filo

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #14 on October 23, 2018, 11:12:09 pm by Filo »
Their 'big club' arrogance won them the game. It was reminiscent of when L**ds played at the Keepmoat. Rovers stood up to them but the Referee was intimidated and favoured them.

Quite simply they are better at cheating than us.

Said it at the game that they were smug bas**rds, and their fans screaming for a pen when Wright made a great tackle, f**king ridiculous. We battered them first half and deserved something out of that game

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #15 on October 23, 2018, 11:22:59 pm by ZiggerZagger »
Wouldn't it be nice to play them in the play offs at Wembley, get a proper ref, beat them, watch them crying on the big screens. I used to like sunlan, but, by God that team of cloggers are terrible. Wigan and Blackburn got promoted by being the best teams in the league, having cowardly refs will only get you so far.

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #16 on October 23, 2018, 11:38:37 pm by dickos1 »
The way they played tonight reminded me of our side when we won the title, gritty, hardworking and gets results week in week out

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #17 on October 23, 2018, 11:58:36 pm by RoversAlias »
I didnt think the ref was too bad but there were some strange decisions in there and he and his assistants missed some blatant ones from them.

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #18 on October 24, 2018, 12:52:14 am by PDX_Rover »
Cattermole set his stall out after 7 minutes when he went right through the back of Marquis I think it was. Yellow card all day. Got a yellow after 15 minutes for another bad one and then had another two or three thst could easily have been yellows.



I think the one you are referring to was on Copps, early in the game and about on halfway.
I was expecting someone to clatter Copps and Kane early on and sure enough it happened.

Yeah that was it. Right through the back of him near halfway west stand. Clear yellow.

It was interested listening to Tommy Rowe on the commentary (he's excellent BTW). Some refs don't want to book anyone too early or they're reticent to give a second yellow... But a yellow card offence is a yellow card offence. There were so many basic little errors by the officials it was a shame.


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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #19 on October 24, 2018, 08:19:57 am by Donnywolf »
Cattermole set his stall out after 7 minutes when he went right through the back of Marquis I think it was. Yellow card all day. Got a yellow after 15 minutes for another bad one and then had another two or three thst could easily have been yellows.

I fugure these days that it is the best way for dirty gits like him to be !

Stage one - clatter the oppo Player you think presents the biggest threat. Hammer him hoping to crock him

Stage two - Ref has a word

Stage three - have a couple of other goes at oppo star man or joint star man - making them look as fair as possible

Stage four - Ref has a word and tells you to reall watch it

Stage five - take one for the Team if an oppo player looks as though he will get through - or you get a clear "pop" at your initial target

Stage six - you pick up a Yellow Card maybe as early as 15 Minutes

Stage seven - (dreamland) You are noe "free" to do whatever you like safe in the knowledge the Ref aint gonna produce a second Yellow for you at any stage

Stage eight - Your Manager realises you have burnt all your energy out having chased target kicked target and reffed the Game (chasing the Ref all over) OR he realises even THIS REF may eventually lose patience and so he Subs you

Not just any Player last night but a lot of Players in recent games too especially Fleetwood & Gillingham.

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #20 on October 24, 2018, 09:14:15 am by Campsall rover »
Their 'big club' arrogance won them the game. It was reminiscent of when L**ds played at the Keepmoat. Rovers stood up to them but the Referee was intimidated and favoured them.

Quite simply they are better at cheating than us.
But other clubs seem to get away with it and we don’t.
Catermole should have had a red no question the ref bottled it. There no 8 was lucky also to stay on.

Donnywolf

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #21 on October 24, 2018, 09:17:37 am by Donnywolf »
Agree 100% - which is why I wrote the post above yours

Only surprise for me was when Marquis desperately threw himself on the floor looking for a Pen in added time the Ref kept his Card in his pocket

Would love to see the Assessores Report for this game !

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #22 on October 24, 2018, 10:28:12 am by weststander »
When Wilkes broke clear on goal late in the first half, I thought I saw his shirt pulled which slowed him down allowing their keeper to advance and block his effort. Another side, ref and game and it may have judged the defender was the last man and would have seen red.

Donnywolf

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #23 on October 24, 2018, 11:23:37 am by Donnywolf »
When Wilkes broke clear on goal late in the first half, I thought I saw his shirt pulled which slowed him down allowing their keeper to advance and block his effort. Another side, ref and game and it may have judged the defender was the last man and would have seen red.

Yes it should have (in the context of the Game) at least a Yellow even though the dipstick allowed "advantage"

I really dislike cynicism but maybe Wilks should have done like they say on MOTD - and "having felt the contact he is entitled to go down"

THAT would have given the Muppets a decision to make and perhaps even THEY would have had to conclude it was a Red Card. Ok Wilks would have given up a goalscoring chance BUT Rovers may have faced 10 men for the Second Half ?

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #24 on October 24, 2018, 11:26:36 am by IDM »
Or they could have judged that Wilks had dived, and given him a second yellow.. the young man showed good sense not to go down too easily..

I did think he was being funny fouled though..

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Re: Big club syndrome
« Reply #25 on October 24, 2018, 01:17:44 pm by The Red Baron »
The No. 15 should definitely have had a yellow for his pull back on Wilks, even though advantage was correctly played. Earlier on the referee played an advantage and then went back to book Whiteman. Evidence of huge inconsistency there.

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« Reply #26 on October 24, 2018, 07:54:24 pm by drfchound »
Cattermole set his stall out after 7 minutes when he went right through the back of Marquis I think it was. Yellow card all day. Got a yellow after 15 minutes for another bad one and then had another two or three thst could easily have been yellows.

I fugure these days that it is the best way for dirty gits like him to be !

Stage one - clatter the oppo Player you think presents the biggest threat. Hammer him hoping to crock him

Stage two - Ref has a word

Stage three - have a couple of other goes at oppo star man or joint star man - making them look as fair as possible

Stage four - Ref has a word and tells you to reall watch it

Stage five - take one for the Team if an oppo player looks as though he will get through - or you get a clear "pop" at your initial target

Stage six - you pick up a Yellow Card maybe as early as 15 Minutes

Stage seven - (dreamland) You are noe "free" to do whatever you like safe in the knowledge the Ref aint gonna produce a second Yellow for you at any stage

Stage eight - Your Manager realises you have burnt all your energy out having chased target kicked target and reffed the Game (chasing the Ref all over) OR he realises even THIS REF may eventually lose patience and so he Subs you

Not just any Player last night but a lot of Players in recent games too especially Fleetwood & Gillingham.






Wolfie, on the way round the lake heading for the game I was discussing your scenario with my mates.

 

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