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Donny Viking

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Re: Wilks in Court
« Reply #1 on October 24, 2018, 12:47:47 pm by Donny Viking »
Doesn't read good  - and reminds of the woodgate era at Leeds - It must be something about the club. Hope he is truly innocent and it doesn't effect his games for us.

GazLaz

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Re: Wilks in Court
« Reply #2 on October 24, 2018, 01:03:10 pm by GazLaz »
His brother was shot dead wasn’t he? Obviously they mix with some wrong ens.

wing commander

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Re: Wilks in Court
« Reply #3 on October 24, 2018, 01:18:44 pm by wing commander »
  That doesn't read good at all,an offence like that which is going to crown court means if he gets found guilty,we wont have to worry about renewing his loan...

GazLaz

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Re: Wilks in Court
« Reply #4 on October 24, 2018, 01:36:34 pm by GazLaz »
  That doesn't read good at all,an offence like that which is going to crown court means if he gets found guilty,we wont have to worry about renewing his loan...

“If you’re in the crown, you’re going down”

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: Wilks in Court
« Reply #5 on October 24, 2018, 01:44:17 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Easy to make assumptions on what role he had in this, if any.

Filo

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Campsall rover

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Re: Wilks in Court
« Reply #7 on October 24, 2018, 03:48:39 pm by Campsall rover »
Oh that’s not good to hear. Let’s hope he wasn’t too involved. If he was then we are looking for another striker. We will have a serious problem between now and January

The Red Baron

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Re: Wilks in Court
« Reply #8 on October 24, 2018, 04:16:36 pm by The Red Baron »
Oh that’s not good to hear. Let’s hope he wasn’t too involved. If he was then we are looking for another striker. We will have a serious problem between now and January

There doesn't appear to be a date for the trial and the wheels of justice move slowly. We should be ok till January but might need to be doing some contingency planning. Unless Kiwomya really kicks on at Chesterfield.

Retdon1

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« Reply #9 on October 24, 2018, 04:18:10 pm by Retdon1 »
I think it says he’s next in court on 21st November

Campsall rover

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« Reply #10 on October 24, 2018, 04:19:22 pm by Campsall rover »
I thought the trial was today.

Campsall rover

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« Reply #11 on October 24, 2018, 04:20:36 pm by Campsall rover »
Pre trial court appearance today then.

roverstillidie91

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« Reply #12 on October 24, 2018, 04:43:44 pm by roverstillidie91 »
Statement on DROS.

The Red Baron

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« Reply #13 on October 24, 2018, 04:52:44 pm by The Red Baron »
Pre trial court appearance today then.

That was the committal hearing. I'm guessing his appearance in November will be the pre-trial hearing after which the trial date will be set- probably some time after Christmas.

karlos

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Re: Wilks in Court
« Reply #14 on October 24, 2018, 05:00:28 pm by karlos »
Should we even have this hanging over our clubs heads even if he is innocent to be involved with any gang that involves violence is enough for him to be sent back for me no matter how good he is it reminds me of the guy who used to play for Newcastle.

deebee

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« Reply #15 on October 24, 2018, 05:09:00 pm by deebee »
Innocent till proved guilty for me, while he wears the shirt he has my support.

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« Reply #16 on October 24, 2018, 06:23:15 pm by RoversAlias »
Was his brother killed more recently than this instance? Complete speculation here but, if Raheem was killed more recently than this stabbing incident, perhaps Mallik has gotten himself out of that kind of lifestyle now? It has to be a wake call for something like that to happen to him and his family.

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« Reply #17 on October 24, 2018, 07:03:46 pm by since-1969 »
Innocent till proved guilty for me, while he wears the shirt he has my support.
Life is hard enough for people who don’t have the gift of sport to make their living , but those who’s  “Life Style” choices make it hard to comprehend why get involved at all. Too many young sports startups often run aground for ‘that moment of madness ‘ and see a promising career disappear. Guilty or NOT he will always be seen as trouble waiting to happen . I hope he gets help even if just to show that he isn’t that person painted in the media ...I am  pleased the club are giving him the benefit .

karlos

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« Reply #18 on October 24, 2018, 07:22:11 pm by karlos »
What did we all say when the news broke about ched Evans, most clubs wouldn't entertain him and the club suspended him.

drfchound

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« Reply #19 on October 24, 2018, 07:26:52 pm by drfchound »
What did we all say when the news broke about ched Evans, most clubs wouldn't entertain him and the club suspended him.





I said he was innocent until proven guilty and when he was convicted I said he had probably been hard done to.
He was eventually acquitted.
I wouldn’t have had a problem if we had signed him.
Not all of us had him hung.

Filo

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Re: Wilks in Court
« Reply #20 on October 24, 2018, 07:44:52 pm by Filo »
Thats the trouble with todays world everyone is perceived as guilty until proved innocent, and even then shit sticks. Trial by social media has fueled this in recent times

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #21 on October 24, 2018, 07:48:27 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Thats the trouble with todays world everyone is perceived as guilty until proved innocent, and even then shit sticks. Trial by social media has fueled this in recent times

In a criminal court people are not proved innocent, they are proved guilty or not.

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #22 on October 24, 2018, 07:50:52 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Was his brother killed more recently than this instance? Complete speculation here but, if Raheem was killed more recently than this stabbing incident, perhaps Mallik has gotten himself out of that kind of lifestyle now? It has to be a wake call for something like that to happen to him and his family.

This incident happened in August 2017, Raheem was shot in the January before that.

drfchound

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« Reply #23 on October 24, 2018, 07:51:01 pm by drfchound »
Thats the trouble with todays world everyone is perceived as guilty until proved innocent, and even then shit sticks. Trial by social media has fueled this in recent times

In a criminal court people are not proved innocent, they are proved guilty or not.





So if proved not guilty then they didn’t do it.
As opposed to having done it if they are proved to be guilty.

Filo

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« Reply #24 on October 24, 2018, 07:51:15 pm by Filo »
Thats the trouble with todays world everyone is perceived as guilty until proved innocent, and even then shit sticks. Trial by social media has fueled this in recent times

In a criminal court people are not proved innocent, they are proved guilty or not.

Thanks for that, but you know what I’m saying

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #25 on October 24, 2018, 08:11:48 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Thats the trouble with todays world everyone is perceived as guilty until proved innocent, and even then shit sticks. Trial by social media has fueled this in recent times

In a criminal court people are not proved innocent, they are proved guilty or not.

So if proved not guilty then they didn’t do it.
As opposed to having done it if they are proved to be guilty.


No. They are judged not guilty which means there is insufficient evidence etc to prove they are guilty, and are cleared of the charge unless significant new evidence appears. Some not guilty people are later found guilty at a civil court where the evidence is weighed rather than having to be proved beyond reasonable doubt.

As Filo says, there is often a cloud that hangs over someone when found not guilty at a criminal court, also when a charge is dropped, and even when questioned but not charged. That's always been the case but magnified by social media.

In no way am I relating this to Mallik, I don't even know what he is actually supposed to have done beyond allegedly being associated with the attack in some way. He was only 18 when the incident happened.

drfchound

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« Reply #26 on October 24, 2018, 08:20:19 pm by drfchound »
Thats the trouble with todays world everyone is perceived as guilty until proved innocent, and even then shit sticks. Trial by social media has fueled this in recent times

In a criminal court people are not proved innocent, they are proved guilty or not.

So if proved not guilty then they didn’t do it.
As opposed to having done it if they are proved to be guilty.


No. They are judged not guilty which means there is insufficient evidence etc to prove they are guilty, and are cleared of the charge unless significant new evidence appears. Some not guilty people are later found guilty at a civil court where the evidence is weighed rather than having to be proved beyond reasonable doubt.

As Filo says, there is often a cloud that hangs over someone when found not guilty at a criminal court, also when a charge is dropped, and even when questioned but not charged. That's always been the case but magnified by social media.

In no way am I relating this to Mallik, I don't even know what he is actually supposed to have done beyond allegedly being associated with the attack in some way. He was only 18 when the incident happened.





But at the end of the trial, if found not guilty they can go home and get on with their lives.
Unless of course people say they are not innocent and tar them with a bloody big brush.

Michael Shaw

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Re: Wilks in Court
« Reply #27 on October 24, 2018, 09:08:16 pm by Michael Shaw »
At the end of the day we will lose his services for the period of the trial, and it might affect his performance before the trial as it is only natural for him to worry about it. I hope he is innocent and continues to play for us, but the court will decide not us. Best left alone, I say, and let him concentrate on his game.

RedJ

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« Reply #28 on October 24, 2018, 09:40:06 pm by RedJ »
Wonder if that's why he's been off it recently. Had his mind on other things.

Lesonthewest

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« Reply #29 on October 24, 2018, 10:02:48 pm by Lesonthewest »
Maybe me but he doesn't seem as quick as he has been, & looks like he's put a bit on.

 

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