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PDX_Rover

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #30 on October 27, 2018, 09:59:34 pm by PDX_Rover »
The thing is, it’s such fine margins at the moment. Even the Fleetwood game. It’s not as if we are getting totally steamrollered or outplayed. I’m much happier this season than last. We have a good manager and owners who are willing to invest wisely and who are patient.




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karlos

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #31 on October 27, 2018, 10:22:49 pm by karlos »
We play 3 forwards and to much pressure is put on JM yes other players are scoring but how many are we missing. Goals counts not attempts, convert your attempts win games simple.

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #32 on October 27, 2018, 10:27:54 pm by the vicar »
All this arguing look at it this way, IT IS NOT WHERE WE START OR WHERE WE ARE NOW, ITS WHERE WE FINNISH SO JUST STOP ALL THE HOSTILITY AND WAIT AND SEE  and try and enjoy the ride for god's sake

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #33 on October 27, 2018, 11:49:15 pm by silent majority »
Well said Dave!!

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #34 on October 27, 2018, 11:57:00 pm by niteowler »
Well said your holyness, couldn't agree more !

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #35 on October 28, 2018, 12:11:45 am by Bentley Bullet »
Thing is we've only won one of our last six league games so it's inevitable that questions will be asked.

Saying it's not where we are now it's where we finish only works in certain situations in favour of the team. For instance,  if we had only lost one of our last six league games and someone said "it's not where we are now it's where we finish", he would be condemned as a whinging bugger even when we're on form!

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #36 on October 28, 2018, 06:43:12 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
I'd say though that the performances on the whole are pretty good.  That's the main thing.  Reminds me of under sod.  We lost and drew some games we shouldn't have then but it came good.  I think it will again here.

I do think we can improve the squad.  I'd probably like to see another forward brought in.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #37 on October 28, 2018, 07:34:49 am by DonnyOsmond »
If we carry on our PPG till the end of the season we will finish on 71 points which would be in or close to the play offs.

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #38 on October 28, 2018, 08:06:44 am by Bentley Bullet »
If we carry on our PPG till the end of the season we will finish on 71 points which would be in or close to the play offs.

On season form yes. On recent form no.

dickos1

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #39 on October 28, 2018, 09:59:02 am by dickos1 »
If we’d continued the form we had Under fergies first 16 games we’d have made the playoffs but we got relegated
I think we’ve a far better side than then though, think we just need a right back and another striker

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #40 on October 28, 2018, 10:20:25 am by Bentley Bullet »
I'm not sure it's only a new right-back we need. The left-back position is also vulnerable, possibly more so considering opponents seem to exploit that side of our defence.

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #41 on October 28, 2018, 10:58:23 am by since-1969 »
We play 3 forwards and to much pressure is put on JM yes other players are scoring but how many are we missing. Goals counts not attempts, convert your attempts win games simple.
It a false to say we play with 3 forwards , we play with 3 up front . We only have 1 forward the rest are just a support
Act that don’t do enough supporting.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #42 on October 28, 2018, 11:01:47 am by DonnyOsmond »
I'm not sure it's only a new right-back we need. The left-back position is also vulnerable, possibly more so considering opponents seem to exploit that side of our defence.

We have 3 left backs though.

silent majority

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #43 on October 28, 2018, 11:21:22 am by silent majority »
There are too many people rushing to judge GM in what has been a very short time for him to evaluate what he has and what he needs.

He did the very sensible, and brave, act of not rushing into the marketplace and blowing all his budget in the opening spell of the season, preferring instead to evaluate his players when they have had time to adapt to his playing style. He's no fool, he can see what we see and he'll make the corrections needed when he gets the opportunity. The club have already gone public and stated that they will respond to his requests when the opportunity arises.

The OP is wrong to suggest that the club have been doing things on the cheap. A top 6 budget is not doing things on the cheap however you want to dress it up. GM has chosen to do things his way, and that necessitates respect and an acknowledgement that he knows his own mind and will act when he is sure of what he wants. The January window will give him that opportunity.


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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #44 on October 28, 2018, 11:25:36 am by RedJ »
We could sign Messi on a free at the end of his Barcelona contract and some of our fans would moan we waited until there was no transfer fee involved.

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #45 on October 28, 2018, 11:32:15 am by dickos1 »
There are too many people rushing to judge GM in what has been a very short time for him to evaluate what he has and what he needs.

He did the very sensible, and brave, act of not rushing into the marketplace and blowing all his budget in the opening spell of the season, preferring instead to evaluate his players when they have had time to adapt to his playing style. He's no fool, he can see what we see and he'll make the corrections needed when he gets the opportunity. The club have already gone public and stated that they will respond to his requests when the opportunity arises.

The OP is wrong to suggest that the club have been doing things on the cheap. A top 6 budget is not doing things on the cheap however you want to dress it up. GM has chosen to do things his way, and that necessitates respect and an acknowledgement that he knows his own mind and will act when he is sure of what he wants. The January window will give him that opportunity.



I’m not wanting an argument regarding this but the article in the free press gavin did, states the club will look at releasing funds above and beyond the budget of McCann can provide a suitable case for it. And gives example of the whiteman signing as proof that they’ve done this before.
It doesn’t read that there is existing money available in the budget to spend this January.

silent majority

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #46 on October 28, 2018, 11:34:10 am by silent majority »
There are too many people rushing to judge GM in what has been a very short time for him to evaluate what he has and what he needs.

He did the very sensible, and brave, act of not rushing into the marketplace and blowing all his budget in the opening spell of the season, preferring instead to evaluate his players when they have had time to adapt to his playing style. He's no fool, he can see what we see and he'll make the corrections needed when he gets the opportunity. The club have already gone public and stated that they will respond to his requests when the opportunity arises.

The OP is wrong to suggest that the club have been doing things on the cheap. A top 6 budget is not doing things on the cheap however you want to dress it up. GM has chosen to do things his way, and that necessitates respect and an acknowledgement that he knows his own mind and will act when he is sure of what he wants. The January window will give him that opportunity.



I’m not wanting an argument regarding this but the article in the free press gavin did, states the club will look at releasing funds above and beyond the budget of McCann can provide a suitable case for it. And gives example of the whiteman signing as proof that they’ve done this before.
It doesn’t read that there is existing money available in the budget to spend this January.

It might not read that way, but there is existing money. It was mentioned at the start of the season and nothings changed.


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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #47 on October 28, 2018, 11:59:52 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
There are too many people rushing to judge GM in what has been a very short time for him to evaluate what he has and what he needs.

He did the very sensible, and brave, act of not rushing into the marketplace and blowing all his budget in the opening spell of the season, preferring instead to evaluate his players when they have had time to adapt to his playing style. He's no fool, he can see what we see and he'll make the corrections needed when he gets the opportunity. The club have already gone public and stated that they will respond to his requests when the opportunity arises.

The OP is wrong to suggest that the club have been doing things on the cheap. A top 6 budget is not doing things on the cheap however you want to dress it up. GM has chosen to do things his way, and that necessitates respect and an acknowledgement that he knows his own mind and will act when he is sure of what he wants. The January window will give him that opportunity.



I’m not wanting an argument regarding this but the article in the free press gavin did, states the club will look at releasing funds above and beyond the budget of McCann can provide a suitable case for it. And gives example of the whiteman signing as proof that they’ve done this before.
It doesn’t read that there is existing money available in the budget to spend this January.

Wrong. Have another go.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #48 on October 28, 2018, 12:18:00 pm by DonnyOsmond »
There are too many people rushing to judge GM in what has been a very short time for him to evaluate what he has and what he needs.

He did the very sensible, and brave, act of not rushing into the marketplace and blowing all his budget in the opening spell of the season, preferring instead to evaluate his players when they have had time to adapt to his playing style. He's no fool, he can see what we see and he'll make the corrections needed when he gets the opportunity. The club have already gone public and stated that they will respond to his requests when the opportunity arises.

The OP is wrong to suggest that the club have been doing things on the cheap. A top 6 budget is not doing things on the cheap however you want to dress it up. GM has chosen to do things his way, and that necessitates respect and an acknowledgement that he knows his own mind and will act when he is sure of what he wants. The January window will give him that opportunity.



I’m not wanting an argument regarding this but the article in the free press gavin did, states the club will look at releasing funds above and beyond the budget of McCann can provide a suitable case for it. And gives example of the whiteman signing as proof that they’ve done this before.
It doesn’t read that there is existing money available in the budget to spend this January.

lol dickos

dickos1

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #49 on October 28, 2018, 12:38:56 pm by dickos1 »
There are too many people rushing to judge GM in what has been a very short time for him to evaluate what he has and what he needs.

He did the very sensible, and brave, act of not rushing into the marketplace and blowing all his budget in the opening spell of the season, preferring instead to evaluate his players when they have had time to adapt to his playing style. He's no fool, he can see what we see and he'll make the corrections needed when he gets the opportunity. The club have already gone public and stated that they will respond to his requests when the opportunity arises.

The OP is wrong to suggest that the club have been doing things on the cheap. A top 6 budget is not doing things on the cheap however you want to dress it up. GM has chosen to do things his way, and that necessitates respect and an acknowledgement that he knows his own mind and will act when he is sure of what he wants. The January window will give him that opportunity.



I’m not wanting an argument regarding this but the article in the free press gavin did, states the club will look at releasing funds above and beyond the budget of McCann can provide a suitable case for it. And gives example of the whiteman signing as proof that they’ve done this before.
It doesn’t read that there is existing money available in the budget to spend this January.

Wrong. Have another go.

Have another go at what?
You’re a bit odd

Read it yourself
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-board-open-to-extra-player-investment-1-9412954

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #50 on October 28, 2018, 12:49:47 pm by graingrover »
Goblike I understand your name is well chosen but your words are not .

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #51 on October 28, 2018, 12:52:56 pm by graingrover »
Oh sorry Godlike not Goblike. ! I just did not realise YOU had the words to make us all rejoice.

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Bentley Bullet

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #52 on October 28, 2018, 12:58:17 pm by Bentley Bullet »
There are too many people rushing to judge GM in what has been a very short time for him to evaluate what he has and what he needs.

He did the very sensible, and brave, act of not rushing into the marketplace and blowing all his budget in the opening spell of the season, preferring instead to evaluate his players when they have had time to adapt to his playing style. He's no fool, he can see what we see and he'll make the corrections needed when he gets the opportunity. The club have already gone public and stated that they will respond to his requests when the opportunity arises.

The OP is wrong to suggest that the club have been doing things on the cheap. A top 6 budget is not doing things on the cheap however you want to dress it up. GM has chosen to do things his way, and that necessitates respect and an acknowledgement that he knows his own mind and will act when he is sure of what he wants. The January window will give him that opportunity.



I don't think many are blaming GM for not rushing into the transfer market and giving the players already here a chance. I'm certainly not. I do think it might be time for him to act on his conclusion though.

RedJ

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #53 on October 28, 2018, 01:11:59 pm by RedJ »
I think he'll struggle to do so outside the transfer window to be honest.

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #54 on October 28, 2018, 01:24:25 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I think he'll struggle to do so outside the transfer window to be honest.

Who's suggesting he should try to sign players outside the transfer window?

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« Reply #55 on October 28, 2018, 01:44:56 pm by DonnyOsmond »
There are too many people rushing to judge GM in what has been a very short time for him to evaluate what he has and what he needs.

He did the very sensible, and brave, act of not rushing into the marketplace and blowing all his budget in the opening spell of the season, preferring instead to evaluate his players when they have had time to adapt to his playing style. He's no fool, he can see what we see and he'll make the corrections needed when he gets the opportunity. The club have already gone public and stated that they will respond to his requests when the opportunity arises.

The OP is wrong to suggest that the club have been doing things on the cheap. A top 6 budget is not doing things on the cheap however you want to dress it up. GM has chosen to do things his way, and that necessitates respect and an acknowledgement that he knows his own mind and will act when he is sure of what he wants. The January window will give him that opportunity.



it might be time for him to act on his conclusion though.

That sounds like it.

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« Reply #56 on October 28, 2018, 01:49:38 pm by Bentley Bullet »
That sounds like what?

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #57 on October 28, 2018, 02:06:10 pm by Campsall rover »
There are too many people rushing to judge GM in what has been a very short time for him to evaluate what he has and what he needs.

He did the very sensible, and brave, act of not rushing into the marketplace and blowing all his budget in the opening spell of the season, preferring instead to evaluate his players when they have had time to adapt to his playing style. He's no fool, he can see what we see and he'll make the corrections needed when he gets the opportunity. The club have already gone public and stated that they will respond to his requests when the opportunity arises.

The OP is wrong to suggest that the club have been doing things on the cheap. A top 6 budget is not doing things on the cheap however you want to dress it up. GM has chosen to do things his way, and that necessitates respect and an acknowledgement that he knows his own mind and will act when he is sure of what he wants. The January window will give him that opportunity.
Great post SM it’s a pity some can’t see the big picture.

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #58 on October 28, 2018, 06:19:29 pm by sha66y »
Though the results are not going our way at the moment, I’m sure we will turn things around soon...
this to me is a “ development “ season, where we get a squad of players to work with new style that will be implemented or rolled out next year...
I think the fact that the current squad have grabbed this by the lapels is in itself a great achievement...and perhaps set a bar too high to maintain...

The NEW manager is STILL BUILDING
The SQUAD are STILL LEARNING
The RESULTS are proof of our achievement so far
and the football by all accounts is GREAT when it clicks..

We are still learning and evolving.......

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Re: Looks like the lack of investment.........
« Reply #59 on October 28, 2018, 09:20:03 pm by godlike1 »
Isn't it amusing that the same old faces only ever post when the results doesn't go our way. What cheerful lives they must lead!

Nope I post lots of positive things on here about the club as well so that comment just shows how blinkered you are
Sorry, did I mention any names?


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