Luke McCullough

[selby]

  Nit involved in the Tranmere  cup side again.

[RoversAlias]

Because we've not allowed him to be, since Peterborough didn't allow us to play Anderson.

[Campsall rover]

  Nit involved in the Tranmere  cup side again.

Very sensible. I hope we bring him and Mandeville  back in January as they would strengthen our squad. Would be good to have both on the bench.
If we did bring them back and keep Kane imo we would only need 2 additions in January, a centre back and a striker and we will be serious contenders for not only a play off place but I think we could challenge the top 2 places also.

[since-1969]

  Nit involved in the Tranmere  cup side again.

Very sensible. I hope we bring him and Mandeville  back in January as they would strengthen our squad. Would be good to have both on the bench.
If we did bring them back and keep Kane imo we would only need 2 additions in January, a centre back and a striker and we will be serious contenders for not only a play off place but I think we could challenge the top 2 places also.

Mandevile is just not good enough at this level , McCulloughs fitness is the big concern as he can’t go too many games within breaking down and better they both find other clubs and build a future away from the Keepmoat.

[Retdon1]

Is Anderson injured ?? He’s not been on the bench for a few weeks

[roversdude]

I can’t see how either would strengthen the squad imo

[nortikorner]

would be FROZEN  out here SO LET HIM GO LET HIM GO

[Campsall rover]

  Nit involved in the Tranmere  cup side again.

Very sensible. I hope we bring him and Mandeville  back in January as they would strengthen our squad. Would be good to have both on the bench.
If we did bring them back and keep Kane imo we would only need 2 additions in January, a centre back and a striker and we will be serious contenders for not only a play off place but I think we could challenge the top 2 places also.

Mandevile is just not good enough at this level , McCulloughs fitness is the big concern as he can’t go too many games within breaking down and better they both find other clubs and build a future away from the Keepmoat.

How can you say Mandy is not good enough at this level. Where is the evidence to suggest that?
Also you can’t just assume McCullough will get another injury. He has been unlucky but has gone 20 games with Tranmere in the league without injury hasn’t he?

[Campsall rover]

I can’t see how either would strengthen the squad imo

Your opinion. So who out of Anderson, Ben Khemis, Beestin, Longbottom, and Kiwomya is better that those two.

[Padge_DRFC]

McCullough comes in if Whiteman gets injured or suspended.

[roversdude]

Anderson much better than LM

[Campsall rover]

McCullough comes in if Whiteman gets injured or suspended.

Agreed.

[Campsall rover]

Anderson much better than LM

What as a holding midfielders? Not in my opinion. Going forward with the ball yes but without it 

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I think it's likely McCullough will move on and if he's done OK then Tranmere is his likely destination.

With our squad evolving and improving then you'd hope better players would come in the replace McCullough, Mandeville, Khemis, Beestin and Kiwomya. Depending on how January fares, GM might resort to using McCullough as insurance.

[karldew]

McCullough comes in if Whiteman gets injured or suspended.

A loan player comes in if Whiteman gets injured. I can’t see McCullough playing for us again imo

[roversdude]

How long is the loan jan or end of season

[scawsby steve]

When are people going to start looking forwards instead of backwards?. McCullough and Mandeville are yesterday's players. They're not good enough to improve the squad now, let alone after we bring in another 2 or 3 players in January.

[Alan Southstand]

I'm in the DBR and Scawsby camp, wrt to both McCullough and Mandeville and possibly Kiwomya can be added to that list. Neither Beestin or Ben Khemis have done enough to convince the manager, so they could well go in May.

However, it really depends on how contract talks go with the other players, who we would like to hang on to. The next 2 transfer windows are going to be very interesting.

[Alickismyhero]

When are people going to start looking forwards instead of backwards?. McCullough and Mandeville are yesterday's players. They're not good enough to improve the squad now, let alone after we bring in another 2 or 3 players in January.

Steve,
I have to agree to a certain extent that Mandy will not come back but to say he is not good enough for Donny or the 1st division I don't agree . I am hoping that he goes on to prove people wrong. On the whole most of the supporters on their forum think very highly of Mandy.


THere seems to be money problems at Morecambe and how that affects Mandy's loan period I just don't know.

[drfchound]

  Nit involved in the Tranmere  cup side again.

Very sensible. I hope we bring him and Mandeville  back in January as they would strengthen our squad. Would be good to have both on the bench.
If we did bring them back and keep Kane imo we would only need 2 additions in January, a centre back and a striker and we will be serious contenders for not only a play off place but I think we could challenge the top 2 places also.

Mandevile is just not good enough at this level , McCulloughs fitness is the big concern as he can’t go too many games within breaking down and better they both find other clubs and build a future away from the Keepmoat.

How can you say Mandy is not good enough at this level. Where is the evidence to suggest that?
Also you can’t just assume McCullough will get another injury. He has been unlucky but has gone 20 games with Tranmere in the league without injury hasn’t he?

Camps, the evidence that Mandeville isn’t good enough for L1 is in the fact that he played his best games for us in L2 and didn’t produce the goods in L1 matches.

[Alickismyhero]

Hound,

 I am sure you would expect, I disagree with your view on Mandy.

How can you be so inflexible to form your opinion that Mandy is not good enough on seeing him play a long time ago.

Just how long is it since you last seen this 21 year kid play?

Over the years you have been in football have you never seen a lad improve over 18 months?

I maintain something went wrong for the kid at Donny, I know not what, but it did knock his confidence with a poor first loan period.

I am of the opinion that Mandy has improved over the last 20 months(ish) even though he is now being played out of position.

Personally I don't want to see him come back but to see him go on and prove himself in the 1st div.

To sum up, when it comes to Mandy, I think your opinion is out of date.

[phil old leake]

I’d have McCullough and Mandeville back.  Luke as cover for Whiteman and Mandeville as a bench warmer.  If Wilks get convicted he will more than likely go to prison.  We will need someone to replace him. 
People keep saying Mandeville isn’t good enough. Wilks hasn’t been prolific. I know he’s not an out and out striker and he’s big and scares defenders but he’s missed loads
It’s a shame Mandeville can’t find his scoring boots
I think it’s also a shame that Kiwomya hasn’t found form at spiriettes     
I think he started at weekend

[selby]

  Hound, first of all I do not think or want Mandeville to come back to us, not because he is not good enough, but he would never be accepted by some supporters, and he is better off playing elsewhere.
   But let's clear something up, the last half season he played here, in preseason at places like Guiseley he was the only forward apart from Marquis showing any form at all, and was getting good reviews after finishing the promotion season injured. Others did not look, and as the season went on proved not to be good enough, apart from Marquis.
   The season started, and our midfield was devoid of any form at all, Marquis and Mandeville got no service at all, and after four or five games Mandeville paid the price of playing poorly. Fair enough.
   Against Portsmouth he was asked to play as a loan striker when we had no other forward  through injury and suspension I think. He scored early in the game and was lorded by the manager for playing in a position he (the manager) had said he thought he could not handle.
  He was picked for the next game and substituted and disappeared for much of the rest of the season in the first team despite scoring quite regularly in the development side. He played in the Chekatrade Trophy games, was MOM against Grimsby and Rochdale scored in both games, which various people on here did not count, but for some mysterious reason count them this season, came on as a substitute against Scunthorpe  in the FA cup and scored and played well, and his last appearance for us was a ten minute cameo against Rochdale a team we never looked like scoring against, With McGahey toying with our attack, and did more to worry them in that ten minutes, getting pulled down in the box after going past a couple of defenders, and was shipped out to Colchester the week after. 
  The rest is history, Colchester hardly won a game or
scored a goal until the end of the season which was no fault of Mandeville, as he was mysteriously hardly ever picked to play in a team not scoring at all. Meanwhile our season ended as the seasons before had, with us failing to score more than a handful of goals  to the end of the season, none in the last six I think, and players still here who are waiting for their first league goal, or games in the first team in December this year.
  As for McCullough, I bet if you look back at the last dozen games he played in MOM awards for them games on this forum, he gathered quite a few votes in the matches and even won a few, probably from the same supporters who think he can't get about the field, maybe someone could look at those results.

[RedJ]

Yep, definitely no fault of the player's that he wasn't doing enough to get into the team at Colchester eh. Funny how it's everyone but his fault that.

[selby]

  RJ, football is a funny business, It has been stated our current manager watched every game recording of last season before his interview for the job here.
   So it was accepted that when he got rid of both the players at the beginning of the season after four days and probably about a fortnight he knew what he was at.
  He kept Ben Khemis, and Kiwomya who , one was pulled after about 15 minutes in on his debut and hardly featured, and another who was not fit to play all season, and watched others, who after Christmas last season apart  from very few, of which one was McCullough showed relegation form to the end of the season.
  In McCulloughs and Mandevilles case, I think they were the only two players other teams wanted out of the players we were willing to let go. McCullough going simply to get "Tayls" in, which has been an unmitigated success has it not.
  Time will tell how their careers pan out, but I think they will both have one at league level, others we still have here I have my doubts.

[RedJ]

All well and good, but none of that is anything to do with Mandeville.

[selby]

 As ever RJ, a well thought  out informative Quip instead of an explanation.

[RoversAlias]

I think it is unfair to write Mandeville off as not good enough for this level. He only started 7 games for us last season. It remains to be seen, and he's doing well at Morecambe (certainly a lot better than his Colchester spell) so there may be a future for him here yet.

He and McCullough are two players I like, would be happy to have them back here but at the same time I won't lose any sleep if they are moved on in the summer.

[RedJ]

As ever RJ, a well thought  out informative Quip instead of an explanation.

Well maybe if you'd told me anything that actually responded to what I said rather than resort to whatabouttery.

[NickDRFC]

I've looked for you, Selby. Here are McCullough's last 12 appearances for Rovers, followed by the number & percentage of votes polled in the MOTM vote on here. I've also put who was voted MOTM in each match (McCullough wasn't voted MOTM in a single one, let alone in a few)

Wigan (H) - 0 (0%) Amos/Butler
Oldham - 2 (18%) Amos
Blackburn - 0 (0%) Butler
Oxford - 0 (0%) Marquis
MK Dons - 0 (0%) Marosi
Gillingham - 1 (7%) Wright
Blackpool - 1 (4%) Coppinger
Bradford - 0 (0%) Marquis
Southend - 3 (30%) Coppinger
Fleetwood - 4 (14%) Mason
Walsall - 1 (14%) Coppinger
Charlton - 1 (5%) Beestin

So 13 votes across 12 matches. For what it's worth I'd have him here as a squad member, but a lot of the time he wouldn't even make the bench.