Emiliano Sala

[Guernsey Exile]

Not sure if you have all seen the news - the above player was on a plane that went missing last night over the Channel Islands.

I heard all the helicopters and search planes last night but only realized this morning what it was for!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-46954922

[IDM]

I don’t know if it has been confirmed he was on that plane yet.?

[GazLaz]

He was definitely on the plane. Shocking.

[IDM]

Yes the authorities have now confirmed he was on board..

[drfchound]

On the BBC news they just said that he posted a picture of him with his ex team mates and headed it up as “the last goodbye”.

[normal rules]

Very sad

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Extremely tragic!

[Donnywolf]

I cant believe that there are people seriously considering these options

a) The Pilot and Player made it to a Life Raft which was carried by the Plane - (I can go along with to a degree - possiblilty 2 out of 10 but with eyes everywhere - where is it ?)

but then the following three are listed

:: The plane landed elsewhere but has not made contact (really in this day and age with transponders Flight Radar 24 and Mobile Phones 0 out of 10)

:: The plane landed on water and Sala and the pilot have been picked up by a passing ship (see above - no chance whatsoever Again 0 out of 10)

:: The plane broke up on contact with the water, leaving them in the sea (my money is on that 10 out of 10)

"Our search area is prioritised on the life raft option," a police statement said.

Sad but inevitable - looks very bleak and any survivors clinging to rocks etc would be hypothermic by now surely - even fir Pro Footballers

[Paul Simpson]

Very sad news for all on board the plane and their families

[Guernsey Exile]

I cant believe that there are people seriously considering these options

a) The Pilot and Player made it to a Life Raft which was carried by the Plane - (I can go along with to a degree - possiblilty 2 out of 10 but with eyes everywhere - where is it ?)

but then the following three are listed

:: The plane landed elsewhere but has not made contact (really in this day and age with transponders Flight Radar 24 and Mobile Phones 0 out of 10)

:: The plane landed on water and Sala and the pilot have been picked up by a passing ship (see above - no chance whatsoever Again 0 out of 10)

:: The plane broke up on contact with the water, leaving them in the sea (my money is on that 10 out of 10)

"Our search area is prioritised on the life raft option," a police statement said.

Sad but inevitable - looks very bleak and any survivors clinging to rocks etc would be hypothermic by now surely - even fir Pro Footballers

Survival out there would be tough - its one of the roughest parts of the islands and has claimed many ships over the years - when you come round that part of Alderney on a boat you can really feel the swell. 

I can't believe some of the berating Guernsey Police have been getting on Twitter from Cardiff fans - i gets its tragic but having a pop at the police isn't for now

[normal rules]

Not only that it was a single prop engine. Flotation upon landing on the water would be nil. There would be very limited rescue equipment on board and I doubt it would have been accessed. If it has ditched dramatically it would have most certainly gone straight underwater with the obvious impact speed to contend with also.
It does not bear thinking about. Ice cold water and dark also. It would have been a very scary place to be if conscious.

[glosterred]

Looks like the plane belonged to Willie McKay

Emiliano Sala was travelling on a plane believed to belong to Scottish football agent Willie McKay when it disappeared over the English Channel, reports @MattHughesTimes


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/plane-emiliano-sala-was-travelling-on-belonged-to-football-agent-willie-mckay-28h7k8vc8



COYR

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Pilot from Crowle aswell which indeed further points to the plane being the agents.  It's all very sad.

[Filo]

That plane has been in and out of Sandtoft a few times

[glosterred]

Doesn’t seem he was happy with the plane


"I'm on a plane that looks like it's going to fall apart."

Media in Argentina say Emiliano Sala reportedly sent a WhatsApp voice message to his family.

👉 bbc.in/2FJZ53U
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46966424


COYR

[since-1969]

I don’t wish  to sound crass or disrespectful of this dreadful situation, but is the transfer of a player in these circumstances still valid and if so how does Cardiff City not loose also , as I’d assume life insurance wouldn’t form part of any deal .

[mushRTID]

I don’t wish  to sound crass or disrespectful of this dreadful situation, but is the transfer of a player in these circumstances still valid and if so how does Cardiff City not loose also , as I’d assume life insurance wouldn’t form part of any deal .

I can’t deny it’s crossed my mind too.

[Donnywolf]

It was one of the first things I thought - If Cardiff had coughed up 15 Mill and the Player has sadly been killed I wondered how they would recoup that money almost straight away (sorry !)

I thought surely there will be Insurance in place ? If there is how will it affect them in getting their money back - and how quickly will they get it ? Will there be an excess and how much and if it takes Months can they afford to buy a replacement

Its a sad old tale - as it is for the family of the bloke from Crowle

[drfchound]

What about McKays agents fee?

[Filo]

What about McKays agents fee?

He wants to hope that aircrafts maintenence record is up to date, or he might not need those fees where he might be going

[drfchound]

What about McKays agents fee?

He wants to hope that aircrafts maintenence record is up to date, or he might not need those fees where he might be going

Very true.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

What about McKays agents fee?

He wants to hope that aircrafts maintenence record is up to date, or he might not need those fees where he might be going

Very true.

Exactly. I guess it's part of the personal service he offers to his clients that help justify the fee. Unfortunately though, as the Leicester tragedy also shows, air travel, particularly in smaller aircraft, brings some additional risks.

[Filo]

The aircraft has an American registration, that is what the letter N stands for at the begining of it’s registration number, although he may be the owner, he could n’t register it in America in his name, you have to be American to do that. To get around this the aircraft is registerd to Southern Aircraft Consultancy which is a Trust for registering aircraft with the American N prefix, this trust is based in Norfolk but has American trustees

The link explains things better
https://agcorp.com/2017/07/what-is-an-aircraft-trust-and-how-does-it-work/

[wing commander]

   For those of us who have worked on the sea around the coast of the uk,we knew that it was a lost cause from the first minute it was reported..Sadly I've seen people die within 30 minutes in these seas even wearing survival suits and life vests..
   Even if they had got to a life raft hypothermia gets you very quickly..The timeframes of rescue are terribly short..
   Very sad story...

[RedJ]

I hope he died in the actual crash... would be a horrible way to die, floating in the Channel freezing to death.

[Guernsey Exile]

Search called off. 

In fairness it is bitter here today - the water will be freezing

[Filo]

Its strange that not one piece of wreckage has been found

[Donnywolf]

Someone now saying "McKay" not the owner but that could be due to Reply #22 above ?

[RoversAlias]

I read some quotes earlier from a "Mark McKay" who apparently arranged the flight, is it mistaken identity or is he a relative of Willie's?

[silent majority]

I read some quotes earlier from a "Mark McKay" who apparently arranged the flight, is it mistaken identity or is he a relative of Willie's?

It's his son.