Emiliano Sala

[Move DRFC]

That's a main reason for the signing, McKay's links with Cardiff with Jack and Paul playing in their academy and also with his strong French football links.

[RoversAlias]

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Text transcript showing that former Rovers academy graduate Jack McKay helped Emiliano Sala organise this flight after his dad, Willie, got him to reach out to offer to help.

Does sound from that as though they chose to fly at that time due to when Sala wanted to come back to Cardiff. Somebody should have really considered further the dangers of flying over the Channel at night, in January, in a single-engined plane.

[Draytonian III]

“Lincolnshire Live “ has details about where the plane was based

[Guernsey Exile]

Plane found yesterday - now confirmed there is one body inside

[Filo]

“Lincolnshire Live “ has details about where the plane was based

Not looked, but I believe the plane was based in Norfolk somewhere, but I know it was a regular visitor to Sandtoft

[GazLaz]

“Lincolnshire Live “ has details about where the plane was based

Not looked, but I believe the plane was based in Norfolk somewhere, but I know it was a regular visitor to Sandtoft

It’s an American registered aircraft apparently. Shouldn’t have been carrying out commercial flights.

[IDM]

That will be determined by the investigation..

[Filo]

“Lincolnshire Live “ has details about where the plane was based

Not looked, but I believe the plane was based in Norfolk somewhere, but I know it was a regular visitor to Sandtoft

It’s an American registered aircraft apparently. Shouldn’t have been carrying out commercial flights.

Theres lots of light aircraft registered in America, its cheaper than registering them over here

[Draytonian III]

The plane was based at Gamston, about 2 miles south of Retford just of the A1

[Dr Fundlekrotch]

I'm learning to fly at Gamston and it has often been parked up on the apron.  Not sure if it was hangered at Gamston, though.

[Wild Rover]

“Lincolnshire Live “ has details about where the plane was based

Not looked, but I believe the plane was based in Norfolk somewhere, but I know it was a regular visitor to Sandtoft

It’s an American registered aircraft apparently. Shouldn’t have been carrying out commercial flights.

If Pilot did not accept payment then flight is not commercial ( so I am informed).

[Donnywolf]

I'm learning to fly at Gamston and it has often been parked up on the apron.  Not sure if it was hangered at Gamston, though.

Dog fight coming up v The Red Baron ?

[Filo]

I'm learning to fly at Gamston and it has often been parked up on the apron.  Not sure if it was hangered at Gamston, though.

Its registered with a trust based in Norfolk

[Donnywolf]

Norfolk UK or Norfolk USA ?

[Filo]

Norfolk UK or Norfolk USA ?

UK

[Filo]

Norfolk UK or Norfolk USA ?

UK

I was wrong, it is registered in Suffolk to this company

 Southern Aircraft Consultancy in Bungay, Suffolk, United Kingdom

[Filo]

The body recovered from the aircraft has been confirmed to be that of Emiliano Sala

[elmsallrover]

What about the other body..?

[johnny rovers]

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Text transcript showing that former Rovers academy graduate Jack McKay helped Emiliano Sala organise this flight after his dad, Willie, got him to reach out to offer to help.

Does sound from that as though they chose to fly at that time due to when Sala wanted to come back to Cardiff. Somebody should have really considered further the dangers of flying over the Channel at night, in January, in a single-engined plane.

Sala's direct agent was the third son Mark who apparently arranged the flight. Not Jack

[Donnywolf]

What about the other body..?

Not found and severe weather has forced the Search to be "called off". The way it sounded it seemed that would be a permanent "calling off" not just a resumption in a few days but I may have misunderstood the statement

[RoversAlias]

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Text transcript showing that former Rovers academy graduate Jack McKay helped Emiliano Sala organise this flight after his dad, Willie, got him to reach out to offer to help.

Does sound from that as though they chose to fly at that time due to when Sala wanted to come back to Cardiff. Somebody should have really considered further the dangers of flying over the Channel at night, in January, in a single-engined plane.

Sala's direct agent was the third son Mark who apparently arranged the flight. Not Jack

Indeed but it was Jack who text Sala about the possibility of the whole thing.

Doesn't really matter anyway, awful tragedy what's happened here and I hope Sala's family can begin the process of closure and grief now they have recovered his body.

It's desperately sad they haven't been able to find David Ibbotson as well.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Echo that. It's a really heart wrenching tragedy.

I really hope the ensuing enquiry doesn't make matters worse and allows the families to grieve in peace.

[Filo]

I think the enquiry will be focusing on who was the ultimate owner of the plane, why was the pilot asked to stand in at the last minute and why he was flying an N registered plane on what appears to be a commercial flight on a Private Pilot Licence, and the planes maintainence and service records

[IDM]

No, first and foremost the enquiry will look at how and why the plane crashed, who owns it and operates it will be a factor but they will look at the technical issues..

[wing commander]

Finding a plane on the seabed is one thing if you know it's rough location..A body is another altogether with the currents..When I worked on the sea a boat I knew went down in the channel,3 bodies turned up,2 were never ever found..
   Reality is that hopefully it will be washed up somewhere in the next few weeks or it never will..God rest his soul...

[IDM]

Let’s hope the support that was shown to help the search for Sala extends to the pilot too..

[wing commander]

it wont be IDM,and in fairness neither would it be if the identification was the other way round..There is no way of finding body's if they are not in the wreckage..

[Filo]

It looks from the photo’s of the wreckage like the door is open, that door I think is the p1 seat, the pilots seat, he may have managed to get out before it sank, but being 21 miles out from Gurnsey he probably perished in the sea, I did read somewhere that a flare had been spotted in that location at that time that night

[Guernsey Exile]

It looks from the photo’s of the wreckage like the door is open, that door I think is the p1 seat, the pilots seat, he may have managed to get out before it sank, but being 21 miles out from Gurnsey he probably perished in the sea, I did read somewhere that a flare had been spotted in that location at that time that night

Apparently it was two flares that were spotted - Lifeboat was on scene after 37 mins and SAR aircraft also launched - if he did get to the surface thta would have been the opportunity to see him. 
Its so sad - but even worse that SAR and Guernsey Lifeboat have come in for alot of criticism

[Filo]

It looks from the photo’s of the wreckage like the door is open, that door I think is the p1 seat, the pilots seat, he may have managed to get out before it sank, but being 21 miles out from Gurnsey he probably perished in the sea, I did read somewhere that a flare had been spotted in that location at that time that night

Apparently it was two flares that were spotted - Lifeboat was on scene after 37 mins and SAR aircraft also launched - if he did get to the surface thta would have been the opportunity to see him. 
Its so sad - but even worse that SAR and Guernsey Lifeboat have come in for alot of criticism

To be fair, one man bobbing about in the water would have been like looking for a needle in a haystack