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Draytonian III

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #150 on January 29, 2019, 11:29:26 pm by Draytonian III »
Do people sat in the public gallery get to see that sort of evidence ?



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ChrisBx

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #151 on January 29, 2019, 11:30:01 pm by ChrisBx »
Do people sat in the public gallery get to see that sort of evidence ?

In most cases I've witnessed, yes.

rich1471

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« Reply #152 on January 29, 2019, 11:30:39 pm by rich1471 »
As someone who works with ex offenders and employs them , people deserve a second chance , you may come on here and have a go at at me about this if we sack him what will it archive he Will get another club as he has a talent, let him do community work , and one
 night when drunk should divine the rest off of your life. 

drfcbenny625

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #153 on January 29, 2019, 11:37:27 pm by drfcbenny625 »
Anyone saying that they wouldn’t plead guilty if they were innocent is being very naive. Countless numbers of innocent people have pleaded guilty, usually on the advice of their legal representatives in order to avoid the very real possibility of going to prison. Not saying that’s what has happened here, rather just making a wider, general point.

Whatever the club decide I’ll back them 100%. Personally I’d like to see him stay. He’s already been punished by the law. I have no unrealistic expectation that footballers have to be good people. They just have to be good at football. I know most people won’t agree with me on that but it’s just how I see it.

If the club do sack him then I will understand completely. They will have done what they think is right for the club and I will back their decision 100%.

since-1969

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Nail Mason
« Reply #154 on January 29, 2019, 11:40:01 pm by since-1969 »
I believe people are responsible for their own actions and should except the consequences of those actions and decisions.
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rich1471

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Re: Nail Mason
« Reply #155 on January 29, 2019, 11:45:41 pm by rich1471 »
one error should not divine his life , he is 22 we all make mistakes 

since-1969

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« Reply #156 on January 29, 2019, 11:51:38 pm by since-1969 »
one error should not divine his life , he is 22 we all make mistakes
You are Right it shouldn’t define his life, but it will ,as he has damaged his reputation and being in the public eye he will run the gauntlet of thousands of football supporters each week and who take full advantage of any chance to humiliate him . He will just have play on and learn to live with it. RTiD.

the vicar

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« Reply #157 on January 30, 2019, 12:01:03 am by the vicar »
Is everyone entitled to a second chance, I think we would all want that if it was us.  He who casts the first stone and all that

ck-rtid

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« Reply #158 on January 30, 2019, 01:23:52 am by ck-rtid »
Just think about if it was your daughter what would you want to happen to him? Yes we all make mistakes especially when we've been drinking, and we all have to face the consequences of these mistakes.

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« Reply #159 on January 30, 2019, 01:50:56 am by RedRover »
There's mistakes and then there's commiting sexual assault! I'm appalled he's been allowed to play for the club since his arrest unless he's done what the currently incarcerated ex Middlesbrough, Man City and Sunderland winger allegedly did and lied about his innocence, only admitted his guilt at his trial/much later down the line. I'm hoping the club have already taken the right and proper course of action against him (terminated his contract) since he was charged. What kind of message does it send out if they continue to employ him, that we support sex offenders?

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« Reply #160 on January 30, 2019, 02:00:17 am by bpoolrover »
There's mistakes and then there's commiting sexual assault! I'm appalled he's been allowed to play for the club since his arrest unless he's done what the currently incarcerated ex Middlesbrough, Man City and Sunderland winger allegedly did and lied about his innocence, only admitted his guilt at his trial/much later down the line. I'm hoping the club have already taken the right and proper course of action against him (terminated his contract) since he was charged. What kind of message does it send out if they continue to employ him, that we support sex offenders?
were you appalled that Darren Ferguson was our manager after assaulting his wife?

GazLaz

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #161 on January 30, 2019, 05:46:13 am by GazLaz »
If he says the events didn’t go as portrayed in court McCann should trust him and so should we. He doesn’t deserve sacking anyway.

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« Reply #162 on January 30, 2019, 06:06:56 am by Red wizard »
I trust Grant Mccann and the club to do what they feel is necessary. They will not doubt know the full details of what's happened. If they feel he has a future at drfc then we have to go with that and all support the desision. The last hinges we need now is some sections of the stands not getting behind Mason.

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #163 on January 30, 2019, 06:20:53 am by DonnyOsmond »
If he says the events didn’t go as portrayed in court McCann should trust him and so should we. He doesn’t deserve sacking anyway.

If he groped a girl without her permission then he deserve whatever he gets. Too many footballers walking round thinking they're untouchable and every girl wants them.

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #164 on January 30, 2019, 06:33:01 am by dickos1 »
That’s what he’s saying though, if the events didn’t happen as portrayed in court

dickos1

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« Reply #165 on January 30, 2019, 06:40:56 am by dickos1 »
There's mistakes and then there's commiting sexual assault! I'm appalled he's been allowed to play for the club since his arrest unless he's done what the currently incarcerated ex Middlesbrough, Man City and Sunderland winger allegedly did and lied about his innocence, only admitted his guilt at his trial/much later down the line. I'm hoping the club have already taken the right and proper course of action against him (terminated his contract) since he was charged. What kind of message does it send out if they continue to employ him, that we support sex offenders?

Does being advised to plead guilty to receive a lesser sentence mean you’ve lied about your guilt

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« Reply #166 on January 30, 2019, 07:13:34 am by drfchound »
Just think about if it was your daughter what would you want to happen to him? Yes we all make mistakes especially when we've been drinking, and we all have to face the consequences of these mistakes.






Just think about what if he was your son and said that the reported events were not what actually happened.
Would you cast him out or support him when he needed you.

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #167 on January 30, 2019, 07:18:12 am by DonnyOsmond »
That’s what he’s saying though, if the events didn’t happen as portrayed in court

They literally found DNA in her bra and if there's CCTV... Not sure what more you can use. If there's more context to it he still groped her to a point she felt like she had to get them kicked out and report it to the police.

Avsuptem

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #168 on January 30, 2019, 07:22:30 am by Avsuptem »
As has been said already on this thread let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Which is not to condone the conduct but merely to put it in the context that I expect we have all done things of which we should be truly ashamed.

The Courts have dealt with Nial Mason, IMHO it should not be the business of a football club to add to the punishment. If the lad can demonstrate that he has genuine remorse and shows contrition I would hope that most people could try to understand his dreadful mistake and try to forgive the unforgivable.  In time it will diminish in most people's memory, today's newspaper, tomorrow's chip paper.


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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #169 on January 30, 2019, 07:32:55 am by Donnywolf »
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2018/april/rovers-recognised-as-top-family-club/

We all make mistakes - one should not blight your life - people are convicted of Manslaughter and come out (and back) as Soap Opera "superstars" but reading the above article is enough for me

We have lost Players for all sorts of reasons - Transferred out - Death - serious injury - not good enough and yet we as a Club still field 11 Players and 5 /6 Subs each week and have done with varying degrees of success since 1879

Our fans are apoplectic when Plymouths "murderer" plays here or Ched Evans and so imo we cant have it both ways

Niall Mason is without doubt a very good Full back / and Centre Back but I dont think the Club should keep him as what he has been convisted of is at direct odds with the article above.

He has made what looks like a big mistake - he is a good footballer without doubt - and like Ched Evans will find employment elsewhere and we should let him go and continue his career elsewhere and we will still have 16 Players at Pompey and v Posh and Palace

drfchound

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Re: Nail Mason
« Reply #170 on January 30, 2019, 07:51:30 am by drfchound »
Statement on the DROS this morning.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #171 on January 30, 2019, 07:54:04 am by DonnyOsmond »
Statement on the DROS this morning.

The club has been aware of the allegation against Niall Mason dating to February 18 2018, which he has always strongly denied.

He changed his plea shortly before Tuesday’s hearing, which resulted in the conviction. The club will consider its options, and will be making no further comment.

donny dave

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #172 on January 30, 2019, 08:05:52 am by donny dave »
I like Nial as a player.
His contract is up in the summer and can see the club letting him see his contract through allowing him time to find another club.

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #173 on January 30, 2019, 08:08:14 am by ChrisBx »
If he says the events didn’t go as portrayed in court McCann should trust him and so should we. He doesn’t deserve sacking anyway.

Do you take the word of all sex offenders who deny their conviction or only the word of sex offenders who play for DRFC?

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« Reply #174 on January 30, 2019, 08:13:11 am by GazLaz »
Being on the sex offenders register is a very broad spectrum isn’t it. Mason has been categorised with people that rape kids for trying to kiss a girl when he was pissed up and rubbing her back.

If he has done what he has been convicted of it’s not right and he deserves the punishment, but I think people are over reacting.

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« Reply #175 on January 30, 2019, 08:19:31 am by ChrisBx »
Being on the sex offenders register is a very broad spectrum isn’t it. Mason has been categorised with people that rape kids for trying to kiss a girl when he was pissed up and rubbing her back.

If he has done what he has been convicted of it’s not right and he deserves the punishment, but I think people are over reacting.

And pulling her hair to pull her head towards him and groping her breast...

karlos

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #176 on January 30, 2019, 08:19:36 am by karlos »
People are saying he deserves a second chance, if he had gone to prison he would have had to complete a sex offenders treatment programme before being released this would be to help him and how to deal with a situation like this if it ever occurred again. However he received a lesser sentence but only started that sentence yesterday the sentence being 2 years suspended so before he even gets a second chance he should see some form of punishment not just carry on with life as though nothing has happened. In my oppinion his contract should be terminated and he needs to go away and contemplate what he has done not only to himself but the lady concerned. Also us as fans need to be aware that this could be a local girl who has access to this forum and she could be reading your comments which could make her feel already worse than she probably feels already, remember she is the victom here and I hope she can recover from this.

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« Reply #177 on January 30, 2019, 08:29:40 am by since-1969 »
What a rediculous poll!

Let the professionals deal with it.
It is a public interest story as being on the Sex Offenders List is a public document. Football fans are Fathers , Mothers Daughters etc and as we all pay to watch DRFC the damage to both reputation’s of club and player are in question and the club will not wish to make a decision that is contra to public opinion or not in the clubs best interests of everyone effected . A Vox poll represents only a fraction of what Is the bread and butter of the club it’s supporters but will effect their decision ion as to what they do next.

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Re: Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!
« Reply #178 on January 30, 2019, 08:29:52 am by GazLaz »
Being on the sex offenders register is a very broad spectrum isn’t it. Mason has been categorised with people that rape kids for trying to kiss a girl when he was pissed up and rubbing her back.

If he has done what he has been convicted of it’s not right and he deserves the punishment, but I think people are over reacting.

And pulling her hair to pull her head towards him and groping her breast...

I’ve not read anywhere that it says he groped her breasts. I might have missed some of the info put out but if you’ve just made that up you should be careful what you put out there.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2019, 08:36:59 am by GazLaz »

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Re: Nail Mason
« Reply #179 on January 30, 2019, 08:38:25 am by vaya »
What a rediculous poll!

Let the professionals deal with it.
It is a public interest story as being on the Sex Offenders List is a public document. Football fans are Fathers , Mothers Daughters etc and as we all pay to watch DRFC the damage to both reputation’s of club and player are in question and the club will not wish to make a decision that is contra to public opinion or not in the clubs best interests of everyone effected . A Vox poll represents only a fraction of what Is the bread and butter of the club it’s supporters but will effect their decision ion as to what they do next.

The club will not be making any decisions based on the outputs from an internet forum.

 

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