Still unbeaten

[Chris Black come back]

Sheffield Senior Cup final, Endsleigh Trophy final, Conference play off final, Johnstones Paint Trophy final, League One play off final.

Never lost a final. Record stands.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Never lost a play-off tie either. Penalties ignored.

[dknward2]

Lost last week unless you counting them as a pair then I guess I can let it slide

[Chris Black come back]

Can probably add the Yorkshire Electricity Cup final to that list as well.

Penalty record is not great but still pretty ok.

[BillyStubbsTears]

According to Sky tonight, our penalty record is now W10 L10.

Which is about reight on average.

[Chris Black come back]

We been in that many? 20 penalty shoot outs?

Wow if true. We were basically so shit for so long that wasn’t the 2003 Chester semi-final first one in living memory?

[BillyStubbsTears]

So they said.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I remember the first one. LDV Trophy against Scunny at OBV in about 1989. f**king freezing it was.

And we lost, of course.

[Chris Black come back]

Maybe they mean penalties taken - so that would be four shoot outs amounting to 20 penalties in total?

That would be Man City, Arsenal, Chester and Charlton?

[BillyStubbsTears]

No.

Before the end of extra time they flashed up stats for how many times each club had won and lost shootouts.

We were W10 L9.

[redarmy82]

I cant think of anywhere near that many

[Chris Black come back]

20 penalty shoot outs?!

Need Red Baron or Dutch Uncle on this.

[ChrisBx]

I'm sure we beat Derby on penalties in the League Cup a few years back under SOD.

There's also been at least one since the ridiculous changes to the FL Trophy..

[BillyStubbsTears]

Didn't we lose at Grimsby in the FLT?

[RoversAlias]

Maybe they mean penalties taken - so that would be four shoot outs amounting to 20 penalties in total?

That would be Man City, Arsenal, Chester and Charlton?

We've been in more than that, the stat is probably right. Got to factor in largely forgettable Cup ties over the years too. We definitely beat York in one, Leeds in another at the Keepmoat (Chris Wood anyone), Derby beat us in one at Belle Vue. Sure there's more.

[Chris Black come back]

Yeah now they start coming back. Games where you didn’t that much care about outcome.

[Donnywolf]

Didn't we lose at Grimsby in the FLT?

On the night of the great gale (it goes down as a meteorological defeat like the Charlton "monsoon"

Seriously yes. Ben Smith save that Ref ordered to be be retaken. Defending champions out in first round and if I remember I was more gutted that night than last night !

[RedRover45]

I'll list them all later when I have a minute

[jackthelad]

I can’t think of that many of the top of my head but I’m sure they will be right!

Charlton away.
Grimsby away. (Johnstone’s paint I think)
Arsenal at home.(league cup)
Leeds at home.(league cup)
Derby at home. (Belle vue)
Of course Chester.

I was absolutely gutted at Grimsby, I think it was 2008 time. Possibly the year after we won the JPT. Ben Smith saved a penalty and it was retaken and scored the second time. It was absolutely lashing it down too and everybody was gutted than night.
Robbed we were:

[Dutch Uncle]

20 Penalty shootouts (sorry for formatting, copied from excel):

1976-77   FLC R1   Lincoln   N   Won 3-2
1990-91   AMC R1N   Scunthorpe   H   Lost 2-4
2002-03   FC P/O   Chester   A   Won 4-3
2004-05   AMC R2N   Hereford   A   Lost 1-3
2005-06   FLC R2   Manchester City   H   Won 3-0
2005-06   FLC R5   Arsenal   H   Lost 1-3
2006-07   FLC R2   Derby   H   Won 8-7
2006-07   FLC R3   Wycombe Wanderers   A   Lost 2-3
2007-08   AMC R3N   Grimsby   A   Lost 4-5
2012-13   FLC R1   York   H   Won 4-2
2012-13   AMC QFN   Crewe   A   Lost 3-5
2015-16   FLC R1   Leeds   H   Won 4-2
2015-16   AMC R1N   Burton Albion   H   Won 5-3
2016-17   AMC Gp   Derby U21   H   Won 4-3
2016-17   AMC Gp   Port Vale   H   Lost 3-4
2016-17   AMC L32   Blackpool   H   Lost 7-8
2017-18   AMC Gp   Grimsby   A   Won 4-3
2017-18   AMC Gp   Scunthorpe   H   Won 3-2
2017-18   AMC L32   Rochdale   A   Lost 4-5
2018-19   FLI P/O   Charlton   A   Lost 3-4


Also, although the point in the OP is a great one, we have lost several Sheffield County Cup finals and other Regional finals in the fast becoming distant past the most recent being 2002-03 (Worksop 1-2 in the Sheffield Senior Challenge Cup) and Sheffield County Cup finals in 1992-93 (Barnsley 2-3), 1986-87 (Rotherham 1-2), 1977-78 (Sheffield United 1-4), 1968-69 (Sheffiled United 0-2 replay after 0-0 draw) and the one I remember best 1964-65 disappointingly losing 0-4 to Sheffield United after beating Rotherham in the Semi by 3-2 from 0-2 down with a hattrick from defender Keith Ripley who played Centre forward that day.


Edit: There is a case (see link - section on domestic cups) that Rovers penalty shootout in 1976-77 is the first ever in English football in a competitive match in a national competition (I don't count 3rd place playoff in the FA Cup, Community Shield or Watney Cup). However there might be one a year earlier with Sheffield Wednesday and Darlington, but documentation on that is very difficult to find.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_shoot-out_(association_football)

[AlonzoDrake]

Thanks Dutch -- great stats, which bring back great memories. I attended the first of those shoot outs at the City Ground, Nottingham, in August 1976 against Graham Taylor's Imps.

The previous season Lincoln had taken D4 by storm, and this was a significant victory. We went onto to play Derby at BV in the next round, who were then just about at the height of their powers. It proved to be the last big gate at BV (14,888), but marred by excessive violence

This is only from memory, but I read in several places around that time that indeed our Lincoln shoot out that night adjacent to the Trent was the very first English FL game to be decided by pens.  Could the AFS or statisticians from the Owls or the old Quakers verify that 1975/76 shoot out?

But back to that Nottingham night -- I think we won it when Lincoln's Percy Freeman -- who often plagued the Rovers -- fired his pen almost out of the ground, for us to win it.

[podrover73]

Didn't we also win the minster carpets trophy?

[Dutch Uncle]

Hi Alonzo and many thanks. Have a look at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975%E2%80%9376_Football_League_Cup

The above wiki link suggests Darlo won 5-3 on penalties in a third match in 1975-76, but I cannot find corroboration anywhere else.

Rothmans merely mentions the two first matches - both teams having a 2-0 away win, and no mention of a third match

I have a book ‘Football League Cup – Full Results’ by the well-known football statistician Tony Brown – it goes from the first season in 1960-61 to 2006-07. It gives the two away wins and a third match result of 0-0, but no mention of penalties. However penalties are mentioned in Rovers-Lincoln match the following season.

The Soccerbase link on the above wiki link does not mention a third match for the Darlington – Sheffield Wednesday tie.

The RSSSF link on the Wiki link gives the result of the third Darlington - Wednesday match as 5-3  (no mention of penalties). The comment on the Rovers-Lincoln match for the following season has the comment ‘Don vns’. The author is Dutch and ‘ns’ usually means ‘na strafschoppen’ – after penalties so the vns probably stands for ‘verder na strafschoppen – i.e. Doncaster progress after penalties.

The third link on the wiki page to Statto is no longer active.

So although in general, while I don’t like to accept wiki without corroboration, the fact of actually giving a 5-3 result suggests it was probably penalties and the Rovers-Lincoln match was not the first. But still not 100% in my eyes.

[RedRover45]

Didn't we also win the minster carpets trophy?

Yes but not on penalties