Tory Leader - Who's your preference?

[DonnyOsmond]

Right, which idiot do people want?

[idler]

Shouldn't there be a None of the above option.
That might romp home.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Which one would lead the useless bunch to the greatest electoral catastrophe? On that basis, I'd go for Esther McVey.

[SydneyRover]

Anne Widecombe would be better than any we have had for a few years.

[swifty50]

Tony Blair

[DonnyOsmond]

Shouldn't there be a None of the above option.
That might romp home.

I agree but we're gonna end up with one of those so might as well see who people prefer out of those options even though we'll end up with one of Boris or Gove.

[SydneyRover]

Shouldn't there be a None of the above option.
That might romp home.

I agree but we're gonna end up with one of those so might as well see who people prefer out of those options even though we'll end up with one of Boris or Gove.

Gove may have done his dash there are plenty of hypocrites in the conservative party

[drfchound]

Shouldn't there be a None of the above option.
That might romp home.

I agree but we're gonna end up with one of those so might as well see who people prefer out of those options even though we'll end up with one of Boris or Gove.

Gove may have done his dash there are plenty of hypocrites in the conservative party

I think that should read “in politics”.

[DonnyOsmond]

Which one would lead the useless bunch to the greatest electoral catastrophe? On that basis, I'd go for Esther McVey.

Agree with this. She's a shambles.

[SydneyRover]

Shouldn't there be a None of the above option.
That might romp home.

I agree but we're gonna end up with one of those so might as well see who people prefer out of those options even though we'll end up with one of Boris or Gove.

Gove may have done his dash there are plenty of hypocrites in the conservative party

I think that should read “in politics”.

Agreed

[Jonathan]

I’ve not followed the Tory leadership race at all, so please forgive the ignorance of this question if it’s already been answered elsewhere. But why have none of the ERG decided to stand? I’m thinking Francois, Baker and Mogg in particular. They’ve all been very keen to take the limelight, make a lot of noise and throw stones throughout the Brexit fiasco. So why are none of them stepping up in the name of whatever it is they claim to stand in the national interest for?

Mogg, in particular, seemed to be touted for the role in the right wing press not so long back. What is it that’s held them back? Or is it simply that they’d favour Johnson as their puppet / fall guy and the buffoonish face of acceptability if and when the grim realities set in?

[Sprotyrover]

Rory Stewart Ex Para has done a great job with prison violence.
By the way my favourite for the next credible leader is also an ex Para.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Which one would lead the useless bunch to the greatest electoral catastrophe? On that basis, I'd go for Esther McVey.

Agree with this. She's a shambles.

I plumped for her more for her being Minister for the disabled whilst at the same time as her showing her utter contempt for the disabled and disadvantaged.

[roversdude]

Seems as though there wasn’t the ‘any of the above’ option I’ve gone for Esther, based purely on the fact that you can turn the sound off and still look at screen

[scawsby steve]

Seems as though there wasn’t the ‘any of the above’ option I’ve gone for Esther, based purely on the fact that you can turn the sound off and still look at screen

Totally agree Dude, I'd give her one as well.

[colfromdonny]

Seems as though there wasn’t the ‘any of the above’ option I’ve gone for Esther, based purely on the fact that you can turn the sound off and still look at screen

and she'd scrap HS2

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I dont at this point know enough about them, some I flat out dont like.

[DonnyOsmond]

Seems as though there wasn’t the ‘any of the above’ option I’ve gone for Esther, based purely on the fact that you can turn the sound off and still look at screen

She's no Heidi Allen.

[roversdude]

I agree but like Penny Mordaunt she wasn’t on the list

[SydneyRover]

Boris who we all know has been sacked for lying is now being staged managed into No10. Why would we want this self serving egomaniac in charge?

Where is he? where's boris.

''Not the Boris we're used to': Johnson's ruthlessly organised bid for PM''

''Tory MPs ‘gobsmacked’ by lengths to which frontrunner’s team is going in attempt to win support''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/09/boris-johnson-kept-from-media-in-ruthlessly-organised-campaign

[SydneyRover]

Gee I spoke too soon, here he is looking after us after all. Raising the tax threshold for those earning above 50K to 80K with the money put aside for a no-deal brexit.

Qs/ Why is boofhead looking to use a one off-expense to give the upper wage earners a permanent tax break? what happens when this money runs out, more cuts to education and health?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United_Kingdom

[DonnyOsmond]

Gee I spoke too soon, here he is looking after us after all. Raising the tax threshold for those earning above 50K to 80K with the money put aside for a no-deal brexit.

Qs/ Why is boofhead looking to use a one off-expense to give the upper wage earners a permanent tax break? what happens when this money runs out, more cuts to education and health?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United_Kingdom

MPs earn 79,468. So 80,000 is an interesting movement of the goalpost. Make me PM and you can have a tax cut.

[wilts rover]

It's a difficult choice.

Do I wan't someone partly sensible who would be good for the country. Or do I wan't a luaitic who would be bad for the country - but good for the Labour party. I'll have a think about it.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Gee I spoke too soon, here he is looking after us after all. Raising the tax threshold for those earning above 50K to 80K with the money put aside for a no-deal brexit.

Qs/ Why is boofhead looking to use a one off-expense to give the upper wage earners a permanent tax break? what happens when this money runs out, more cuts to education and health?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United_Kingdom

Well this is very Tory isn't it?
a) Prioritise a tax giveaway of up to £6k per year for the best paid 10% of the workforce.
b) Partially pay for that by increasing everyone else's NI contributions.
c) Pay for the rest from the money set aside to re-float the economy after a No Deal Brexit blows a 10 foot hole in the hull...while saying that you're prepared to have a No Deal Brexit in October.

But it's not about logic and fairness is it? It's about appealing to the 60k or so people in the Home Counties golf clubs whose votes he need to be PM.

You lot who voted Brexit. Ever think you might have been played?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I've said this before a 50-100k salary isn't that extortionate these days (and certainly not in London).  But surely he has to realise this is the wrong priority right now?  40% is fair.

[BillyStubbsTears]

BFYP

30million people in work.
3 million earn more than £50k.

Go figure.

The really interesting numbers, of course, would be what percentage of Tory party members earn more than £50k. I suspect Boris has a good idea, hence this ruse...

[SydneyRover]

It's a bit unseemly as contenders for the top job start divvying out the spoils before they get in the door.

Boris is the wombat of politics, eats roots and leaves.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

BFYP

30million people in work.
3 million earn more than £50k.

Go figure.

The really interesting numbers, of course, would be what percentage of Tory party members earn more than £50k. I suspect Boris has a good idea, hence this ruse...

The location split of that would be interesting too.

[BillyStubbsTears]

As the head of the IFS said this morning, Johnson's plan would massively disproportionately benefit very wealthy pensioners because they don't pay NI.

I'm sure the fact that the Tory party membership comprises far (EDIT. far, not fat) more wealthy pensioners as a percentage than the general.public is just a coincidence...

Johnson. Scheming, value-free t**t of the highest order.

[wilts rover]

Rory Stewart Ex Para has done a great job with prison violence.
By the way my favourite for the next credible leader is also an ex Para.

Rory Stewart was never in the Para's!! He spent 6 months in the Black Watch during his gap year. There is a reason he is known as Florence of Belgravia for err, overstating his credentials...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/01/opposite-career-politician-rory-stewart-pm-tory-leadership