Tory Leader - Who's your preference?

[Glyn_Wigley]

Gee I spoke too soon, here he is looking after us after all. Raising the tax threshold for those earning above 50K to 80K with the money put aside for a no-deal brexit.

Qs/ Why is boofhead looking to use a one off-expense to give the upper wage earners a permanent tax break? what happens when this money runs out, more cuts to education and health?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United_Kingdom

Well this is very Tory isn't it?
a) Prioritise a tax giveaway of up to £6k per year for the best paid 10% of the workforce.
b) Partially pay for that by increasing everyone else's NI contributions.
c) Pay for the rest from the money set aside to re-float the economy after a No Deal Brexit blows a 10 foot hole in the hull...while saying that you're prepared to have a No Deal Brexit in October.

But it's not about logic and fairness is it? It's about appealing to the 60k or so people in the Home Counties golf clubs whose votes he need to be PM.

You lot who voted Brexit. Ever think you might have been played?

Remind me again, how much does Boris earn?

[RobTheRover]

I dont at this point know enough about them, some I flat out dont like.

You'll be getting a vote wont you, Andy?  ;-)

[RobTheRover]

Gee I spoke too soon, here he is looking after us after all. Raising the tax threshold for those earning above 50K to 80K with the money put aside for a no-deal brexit.

Qs/ Why is boofhead looking to use a one off-expense to give the upper wage earners a permanent tax break? what happens when this money runs out, more cuts to education and health?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United_Kingdom

Well this is very Tory isn't it?
a) Prioritise a tax giveaway of up to £6k per year for the best paid 10% of the workforce.
b) Partially pay for that by increasing everyone else's NI contributions.
c) Pay for the rest from the money set aside to re-float the economy after a No Deal Brexit blows a 10 foot hole in the hull...while saying that you're prepared to have a No Deal Brexit in October.

But it's not about logic and fairness is it? It's about appealing to the 60k or so people in the Home Counties golf clubs whose votes he need to be PM.

You lot who voted Brexit. Ever think you might have been played?

Remind me again, how much does Boris earn?

He made tons off his "articles" he wrote for newspapers and doing the after dinner speaker circuit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/06/boris-johnson-earned-51000-for-one-speech-mps-register-reveals

Mind, the 40% tax thing wont affect him.  His accountant will see to that.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Gee I spoke too soon, here he is looking after us after all. Raising the tax threshold for those earning above 50K to 80K with the money put aside for a no-deal brexit.

Qs/ Why is boofhead looking to use a one off-expense to give the upper wage earners a permanent tax break? what happens when this money runs out, more cuts to education and health?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United_Kingdom

Well this is very Tory isn't it?
a) Prioritise a tax giveaway of up to £6k per year for the best paid 10% of the workforce.
b) Partially pay for that by increasing everyone else's NI contributions.
c) Pay for the rest from the money set aside to re-float the economy after a No Deal Brexit blows a 10 foot hole in the hull...while saying that you're prepared to have a No Deal Brexit in October.

But it's not about logic and fairness is it? It's about appealing to the 60k or so people in the Home Counties golf clubs whose votes he need to be PM.

You lot who voted Brexit. Ever think you might have been played?

Remind me again, how much does Boris earn?

He made tons off his "articles" he wrote for newspapers and doing the after dinner speaker circuit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/06/boris-johnson-earned-51000-for-one-speech-mps-register-reveals

Mind, the 40% tax thing wont affect him.  His accountant will see to that.

But how much would he be handing to himself if he reduces tax in the way he says he will..?

[Not Now Kato]

This lady got it right about one of the candidates 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRd9rMCM_MA&feature=youtu.be

[Glyn_Wigley]

Something else about Boris - surely tax and stuff is the prerogative of the Chancellor?

And who'd want to be his Chancellor and having to announce tax cuts but getting none of the credit for it?

[Donnywolf]

It would be funny if not so serious - Johnsons Battle Bus

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here's a nice quote about Johnson.

"If Boris Johnson is the answer, there is something desperately wrong with the question.

“If the day ever comes that Boris Johnson becomes tenant of Downing Street, I shall be among those packing my bags for a new life in Buenos Aires or suchlike, because it means that Britain has abandoned its last pretensions to be a serious country.

“ Most politicians are ambitious and ruthless, but Boris is a gold medal egomaniac. I would not trust him with my wife nor – from painful experience – my wallet.

“His chaotic public persona is not an act – he is, indeed, manically disorganised about everything except his own image management. He is also a far more ruthless, and frankly nastier, figure than the public appreciates.

“I would not take Boris's word about whether it is Monday or Tuesday.

"He is not a man to believe in, to trust or respect, save as a superlative exhibitionist. He is bereft of judgment, loyalty and discretion. Only in the star-crazed, frivolous Britain of the 21st century could such a man have risen so high, and he is utterly unfit to go higher still."

Sounds like someone from the opposite end of the political spectrum doing a hatchet job, right?

Wrong. It's Max Hastings, the eminent Tory and ex-editor of The Telegraph, where he was Johnson's boss when Johnson was a journalist who lied on a regular basis about the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/10/boris-johnson-unfit-to-be-prime-minister

Welcome to your next PM. Facilitated by you lot who voted for Leave. Because Leave was never about the EU. It was about Johnson's ambition.

[SydneyRover]

FMD the EU is so critical of our illustrious candidates, and they think Raab makes it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EU view of Tory leadership candidates deeply critical, say sources

Boris Johnson viewed as Trump-like figure while Dominic Raab accused of ‘making things up’

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/11/eu-view-of-tory-leadership-candidates-deeply-critical-say-sources

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

You say all that though BST, an idiot people perceive him to be but he on the face of it has achieved things and been successful.  He's not someone who tends to fail.

The thing about this race is largely ticking off who you don't like....

[Glyn_Wigley]

You say all that though BST, an idiot people perceive him to be but he on the face of it has achieved things and been successful.  He's not someone who tends to fail.

The thing about this race is largely ticking off who you don't like....

*ahem*garden bridge £53mill 'spaffed up the wall'*ahem*

And that's just for starters, fail is all he ever does but it gets laughed off because 'it's only lovable old Boris being lovable old Boris'.

And I'd love to know what things he's actually achieved because I can't think of any.

[Not Now Kato]

You say all that though BST, an idiot people perceive him to be but he on the face of it has achieved things and been successful.  He's not someone who tends to fail.

The thing about this race is largely ticking off who you don't like....

Let’s be honest none of them are fit for purpose.

You can see them huddled with their election gurus

What do Northern people want ? ....err free scratch cards and vape refills ! ..right let’s promise that then !

What will get the wealthy vote ? ....errr lift tax thresholds and reduce IHT ....right promise that !

How do we rubbish my opponents ? ...expose their drug taking and philandering ...yes but we’ve already done that ...oh yeh

How do we get more MPs to support me ?..promise them a cabinet post ! ...which ones ?..all 202 of them.

What do brexiteers want ? ..what do remainders want ?....it doesn’t matter just get in.

But if I get in how do I do all the above ? ......you don’t !
 

[SydneyRover]

You say all that though BST, an idiot people perceive him to be but he on the face of it has achieved things and been successful.  He's not someone who tends to fail.

The thing about this race is largely ticking off who you don't like....

*ahem*garden bridge £53mill 'spaffed up the wall'*ahem*

And that's just for starters, fail is all he ever does but it gets laughed off because 'it's only lovable old Boris being lovable old Boris'.

And I'd love to know what things he's actually achieved because I can't think of any.

Here's a few things GW

11 Questions Boris Johnson Should Have To Face In The Tory Leadership Contest
The favourite to be prime minister is avoiding media scrutiny while rivals like Michael Gove face a grilling.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/boris-johnson-key-questions-tory-leadership-contest-2019_uk_5cfe19fbe4b04e90f1cc075b?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIs

[turnbull for england]

You say all that though BST, an idiot people perceive him to be but he on the face of it has achieved things and been successful.  He's not someone who tends to fail.

The thing about this race is largely ticking off who you don't like....

*ahem*garden bridge £53mill 'spaffed up the wall'*ahem*

And that's just for starters, fail is all he ever does but it gets laughed off because 'it's only lovable old Boris being lovable old Boris'.

And I'd love to know what things he's actually achieved because I can't think of any.

water cannons https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/19/boris-johnson-unused-water-cannon-sold-for-scrap-at-300000-loss

[BillyStubbsTears]

You say all that though BST, an idiot people perceive him to be but he on the face of it has achieved things and been successful.  He's not someone who tends to fail.

The thing about this race is largely ticking off who you don't like....

Don't accept what I say, BFYP. I'm only making my judgement from the outside looking in. As are you too, obviously.

On whether Johnson does or does not tend to fail, look at what Max Hastings said about him, having been his employer for a decade.
"He is, indeed, manically disorganised about everything except his own image management."

I think we'll all agree that he has been spectacularly successful at managing his image and career. Whether he has ever succeeded at anything else is up for debate.

[albie]

The difficulty is that many believe the self promotional propaganda.

Trump is a great example.
He managed to sell himself as a successful businessman, despite his failure record including bankrupting a casino......something that takes a special level of incompetency.

BoJo works to bypass reason and analysis, and replace it with personality brand loyalty.
It has an audience in the world of "influencers" and media profiles.

[wilts rover]

You say all that though BST, an idiot people perceive him to be but he on the face of it has achieved things and been successful.  He's not someone who tends to fail.

The thing about this race is largely ticking off who you don't like....

Come on BFYP play the game (as Boris would say). You can't come on and post that without listing as least some of those things you think he has achieved. Because we can certainly list quite a few that went wrong.

My tuppence worth of what Boris has achieved is: the £10 million cuts to London Fire Brigade, closing 10 stations, loosing 500 firefighters and 27 fire engines.

All of which, as well as leading to longer average call out times, left the city without an aerial ladder appliance to be able to fight a tower block fire - and would have saved lives at Grenfell Tower.

[Not Now Kato]

You say all that though BST, an idiot people perceive him to be but he on the face of it has achieved things and been successful.  He's not someone who tends to fail.

The thing about this race is largely ticking off who you don't like....

Come on BFYP play the game (as Boris would say). You can't come on and post that without listing as least some of those things you think he has achieved. Because we can certainly list quite a few that went wrong.

My tuppence worth of what Boris has achieved is: the £10 million cuts to London Fire Brigade, closing 10 stations, loosing 500 firefighters and 27 fire engines.

All of which, as well as leading to longer average call out times, left the city without an aerial ladder appliance to be able to fight a tower block fire - and would have saved lives at Grenfell Tower.

Quite right, and he was also successful in buying us a few Water Cannons that we lost money on.  Credit where credit's due and all that. 

[albie]

If you've decided Boris is a complete Wazzock, then who to choose?
....the pustule Gove,
Victoria's favourite Jeremy,
or the go-to guy "quick Matt Hancock":
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8uiKIEXYAEYtAV.jpg

Sometimes an image is so much better than words!

[roversdude]

Oh f*ck on a day by day basis you start to see how (at the best) inept all of these are, and then realise one of them will be handed the keys to number 10. It’s gonna be a rocky ride guys

[SydneyRover]

''Tory leadership contest: Dominic Raab reaches over 55s on Facebook''

Why is he targeting older people?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48586082

[Copps is Magic]

https://metro.co.uk/video/all-times-jeremy-hunts-mispronounced-1942756/?ito=vjs-link

[wing commander]

   This thread made me smile..On here it's like asking the membership of the Everton supporters club who Liverpool should sign as their next manager..lol

   You are never going to like any of them..lol

 

[idler]

They can't all be wrong.
There's not much difference between a proper noun and an adjective in his case though is there? 😳

[BillyStubbsTears]

Plenty of Tory supporters on here WingCo. Mind, given the rabble that is wanting to lead their party, I do understand them being too ashamed to give their two-pennorth on this subject.

[Glyn_Wigley]

   This thread made me smile..On here it's like asking the membership of the Everton supporters club who Liverpool should sign as their next manager..lol

   You are never going to like any of them..lol

 

Well the one who I think would do the least damage to the country is Rory Stewart. That's the best you'll get out of me as it's like trying to find the least smelly turd in a bucket of turds.

[scawsby steve]

Plenty of Tory supporters on here WingCo. Mind, given the rabble that is wanting to lead their party, I do understand them being too ashamed to give their two-pennorth on this subject.

I've not seen any Tory supporters on here, only Brexit voters. The amount of them in Northern Labour heartlands would support that view.

[Not Now Kato]

   This thread made me smile..On here it's like asking the membership of the Everton supporters club who Liverpool should sign as their next manager..lol

   You are never going to like any of them..lol

 

Well the one who I think would do the least damage to the country is Rory Stewart. That's the best you'll get out of me as it's like trying to find the least smelly turd in a bucket of diarrhoea.

FTFY 

[BillyStubbsTears]

Plenty of Tory supporters on here WingCo. Mind, given the rabble that is wanting to lead their party, I do understand them being too ashamed to give their two-pennorth on this subject.

I've not seen any Tory supporters on here, only Brexit voters. The amount of them in Northern Labour heartlands would support that view.

There's at least two on this thread who I'm pretty sure have said they've been Tory voters in the past.

[BillyStubbsTears]

https://mobile.twitter.com/carljackmiller/status/1138851429425328128

Here's the next PM of the UK. Explaining why it's perfectly alright for the leader of a country to say Muslim women look like letterboxes. Apparently it's because that's how people want to hear politicians talking.

You've seen the buffoon side of him. THIS is what he is really like. A moral black hole.