Hull make official approach for McCan

[silent majority]

I thought the Club were going to knock it back?

They can't. LMA rules.

So clubs have no choice now but to just let their managers leave if they want to

I may be wrong but I think that means the club can not prevent a formal approach.?

That's exactly what I meant.

[IDM]

Thanks SM.!

[RoversAlias]

I retract my prior confused response in that case.

I believed the original poster was questioning Rovers accepting or refusing said approach from Hull though, but of course we don't know the outcome of that decision yet.

[dickos1]

That’s not entirely true
We have to tell McCann they’ve made an approach but we can decline permission for them to speak with him

[silent majority]

That’s not entirely true
We have to tell McCann they’ve made an approach but we can decline permission for them to speak with him

Nope, you're wrong....... again.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

That’s not entirely true
We have to tell McCann they’ve made an approach but we can decline permission for them to speak with him

Nope, you're wrong....... again.

I don't know how it works, can we decline permission, or decline a move?  Or can he just go whatever happens and it becomes breach of contract and a legal dispute/ arbitration etc if no deal agreed or does he go pending a settlement?

[Bristol Red Rover]

He wouldn't be worth his salt if he wasn't curious about any offer. And other offers will come for him, he's a good manager. He's in a very comfortable position to make them have to pull out all the stops to get him.

I imagine the club would ask for good compensation - how much? In the region of a year's wages would be about right?

[ChrisBx]

Don't know what more the club can do here. They hired a manager who was not an obvious candidate to replace Ferguson. He's exceeded expectations leading to a Championship club taking an interest. Our board clearly want to keep him, however know the decision as to whether he goes comes down to Hull City and McCann.

If he goes, I trust the board to negotiate appropriate compensation.

I hope he stays, however if does go then I'm not placing any blame on our club.

[silent majority]

That’s not entirely true
We have to tell McCann they’ve made an approach but we can decline permission for them to speak with him

Nope, you're wrong....... again.

And to be really clear about this, DRFC have to inform the Manager (at the earliest opportunity) that there has been an official approach made from another professional  football club enquiring about his services. If the Manager then decides he wishes to speak with the enquiring club then we can't stop him from doing so. Nor can we refuse to allow him to leave if he wishes to take up that appointment.

[eastender]

That’s not entirely true
We have to tell McCann they’ve made an approach but we can decline permission for them to speak with him

Nope, you're wrong....... again.

And to be really clear about this, DRFC have to inform the Manager (at the earliest opportunity) that there has been an official approach made from another professional  football club enquiring about his services. If the Manager then decides he wishes to speak with the enquiring club then we can't stop him from doing so. Nor can we refuse to allow him to leave if he wishes to take up that appointment.

Will the compensation go to arbitration if the 2 clubs can't agree a fee.

[ChrisBx]

That’s not entirely true
We have to tell McCann they’ve made an approach but we can decline permission for them to speak with him

Nope, you're wrong....... again.

And to be really clear about this, DRFC have to inform the Manager (at the earliest opportunity) that there has been an official approach made from another professional  football club enquiring about his services. If the Manager then decides he wishes to speak with the enquiring club then we can't stop him from doing so. Nor can we refuse to allow him to leave if he wishes to take up that appointment.

Didn't know that! How would compensation be agreed; presumably stipulated in McCann's contract?

[silent majority]

That’s not entirely true
We have to tell McCann they’ve made an approach but we can decline permission for them to speak with him

Nope, you're wrong....... again.

And to be really clear about this, DRFC have to inform the Manager (at the earliest opportunity) that there has been an official approach made from another professional  football club enquiring about his services. If the Manager then decides he wishes to speak with the enquiring club then we can't stop him from doing so. Nor can we refuse to allow him to leave if he wishes to take up that appointment.

Will the compensation go to arbitration if the 2 clubs can't agree a fee.

I don't believe so. There are guidelines for compensation, usually 12 months salary.

[dickos1]

There are examples of clubs that have refused permission to speak to their manager

[silent majority]

There are examples of clubs that have refused permission to speak to their manager

Go on then, show me.

I was quoting pretty much from the rule as written.

[dickos1]

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/aberdeen-refuse-rangers-permission-talk-manager-derek-mcinnes/

[RoversAlias]

I think SM's response to that is going to be that it happened in Scotland...

[dickos1]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/league-two-news-mansfield-town-13047409.amp

[dickos1]

https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/norwich-city-refuse-burnley-permission-over-paul-lambert-talks-1-768648

[dickos1]

So there are examples of clubs refusing permission, but once a manager states he wants to speak with said club then it seems as though the club then let’s them.
Swansea refused permission to Brighton tonspeak with potter only this summer but potter then said he wanted permission to go.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

In the past. I think the rules have changed have they not?

[Bristol Red Rover]

That’s not entirely true
We have to tell McCann they’ve made an approach but we can decline permission for them to speak with him

Nope, you're wrong....... again.

And to be really clear about this, DRFC have to inform the Manager (at the earliest opportunity) that there has been an official approach made from another professional  football club enquiring about his services. If the Manager then decides he wishes to speak with the enquiring club then we can't stop him from doing so. Nor can we refuse to allow him to leave if he wishes to take up that appointment.

How does club compensation fit in? It's an essential part of any move, so can the club can say its not enough, or what?

[dickos1]

In the past. I think the rules have changed have they not?

May have done but potter was only this summer

[Spilsby Red]

Spoke about official approach for GM. Also said our club will do it’s best to keep him

[Geoff Blakesley]

It's simple . If he wants to go then he will. He has had a great year at the club and we should wish him well. Not sure many posters on here would turn down a possible promotion as well as a higher salary. The king is dead - long live the king !

[PDX_Rover]

He'd be daft to go. They're nutters in charge there.

[pib]

He'd be daft to go. They're nutters in charge there.

True, they are, but a manager’s stock can rise even more if they do a good job under tricky circumstances. Just as it did with Adkins, Garry Monk at Birmingham another example.

[The Beast]

Let’s take our Rovers tinted glasses off, if you’re playing Championship manager and managing say Peterborough and Hull City come in for you, you go! And that’s without a real life remuneration package.

[Dare to dream!]

Let’s take our Rovers tinted glasses off, if you’re playing Championship manager and managing say Peterborough and Hull City come in for you, you go! And that’s without a real life remuneration package.

Unfortunatley you are right.

This comes down to McCanns morales, if he is a man of his word he will stay if he doesn't then i'd rather him not be here anyway.

[bpoolrover]

Let’s take our Rovers tinted glasses off, if you’re playing Championship manager and managing say Peterborough and Hull City come in for you, you go! And that’s without a real life remuneration package.

normally I would agree with that but I presume there fans are right that he is trying to sell the club if that’s the case if new owners come in unless your challenging for promotion they bring there own guy with them, so hull for me would not be a good option this time

[Herbert Anchovy]

Let’s take our Rovers tinted glasses off, if you’re playing Championship manager and managing say Peterborough and Hull City come in for you, you go! And that’s without a real life remuneration package.

The issue is Hull City,  though in the Championship, are a club with real issues. It’s difficult to see how they could possibly be more attractive than Rovers.