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mushRTID

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #90 on June 20, 2019, 08:10:11 pm by mushRTID »
After this his name is well and truly out there now. Another good season here and he gets a much better job than Hull City!



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steve@dcfd

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #91 on June 20, 2019, 08:19:41 pm by steve@dcfd »
Let’s take our Rovers tinted glasses off, if you’re playing Championship manager and managing say Peterborough and Hull City come in for you, you go! And that’s without a real life remuneration package.

The issue is Hull City,  though in the Championship, are a club with real issues. It’s difficult to see how they could possibly be more attractive than Rovers.
If Grant decides to talk to them it’s his choice our opinions don’t count. What we think Hull is irrelevant.

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #92 on June 20, 2019, 08:24:49 pm by graingrover »
This particular story and the way it pans out will speak volumes for football’s real face today and the values of the people in it who set the standards .

It's the same as any job. He's a good manager and has been headhunted. Happens in every walk of life.
That response is of course based on personal life experience to date which does not at all correspond to my own though no doubt I have several decades start.

Campsall rover

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #93 on June 20, 2019, 08:25:48 pm by Campsall rover »
The clue is in the title. Hull have made an official approach.
That’s all it is. Doesn’t mean the Club will agree to GM having talks nor does it mean GM wants to have talks with Hull.

Don’t panic yet folks.

Herbert Anchovy

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #94 on June 20, 2019, 08:27:21 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
Let’s take our Rovers tinted glasses off, if you’re playing Championship manager and managing say Peterborough and Hull City come in for you, you go! And that’s without a real life remuneration package.

The issue is Hull City,  though in the Championship, are a club with real issues. It’s difficult to see how they could possibly be more attractive than Rovers.
If Grant decides to talk to them it’s his choice our opinions don’t count. What we think Hull is irrelevant.

Well...yes but that’s not the point I’m responding to. The post suggested that you’d automatically go to Hull as they’re a ‘bigger’ club. Though there’s seems to be more reasons not to go than reasons to go on the face of it.

Dare to dream!

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #95 on June 20, 2019, 08:27:54 pm by Dare to dream! »
The clue is in the title. Hull have made an official approach.
That’s all it is. Doesn’t mean the Club will agree to GM having talks nor does it mean GM wants to have talks with Hull.

Don’t panic yet folks.


Hull mail have been the ones breaking this story and everything they have said to date has been accurate. They say in todays release that McCann is interested and Hull think the deal will be done by the weekend.

jackthelad

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #96 on June 20, 2019, 08:28:31 pm by jackthelad »
Have to see what happens, squeaky bum time indeed..

One thing I will say though... there was a Doncaster rovers before Grant McCann and there will be one after him too.

If he wants to stay here, brilliant. If not then good luck to him and thanks for last season. The same goes for any players who think they can get/do better.

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #97 on June 20, 2019, 08:28:51 pm by DRNaith »
Why did Adkins leave anyone know?
I believe it was over the budget. He was happy with the package offered to him, just not the budget made available.

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #98 on June 20, 2019, 08:37:36 pm by Copps is Magic »
Why did Adkins leave anyone know?
I believe it was over the budget. He was happy with the package offered to him, just not the budget made available.

If true, you can plausibly see why they would want McCann and McCann might want to go there. He's done relatively well on a small budget (even refused to spend transfer money if reports are true), and realistically (even in a bad financial state) Hull could offer him a much higher salary than we could.

Very hard for a fella with kids to turn that down.

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #99 on June 20, 2019, 08:43:15 pm by Boomstick »
Why did Adkins leave anyone know?
I believe it was over the budget. He was happy with the package offered to him, just not the budget made available.
Well that rules out adkins coming here then

dickos1

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #100 on June 20, 2019, 08:45:52 pm by dickos1 »
The clue is in the title. Hull have made an official approach.
That’s all it is. Doesn’t mean the Club will agree to GM having talks nor does it mean GM wants to have talks with Hull.

Don’t panic yet folks.


SM says we can’t stop him having talks if he wants them.
I’ve showed examples of clubs that have refused permission but as someone said the rules may have changed

silent majority

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« Reply #101 on June 20, 2019, 09:03:24 pm by silent majority »
The clue is in the title. Hull have made an official approach.
That’s all it is. Doesn’t mean the Club will agree to GM having talks nor does it mean GM wants to have talks with Hull.

Don’t panic yet folks.


SM says we can’t stop him having talks if he wants them.
I’ve showed examples of clubs that have refused permission but as someone said the rules may have changed

Well you haven't really. What you've shown is a media response to talk about a manager being approached. Much the same as our media responded by saying they would rebuff any approach from Hull.

The truth is, under LMA rules you can't refuse permission. It's there in black and white. If a club makes an official approach you have to tell the manager, it's then his choice whether to attend for an interview or not. Clubs can't stop him.


DRNaith

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #102 on June 20, 2019, 09:05:45 pm by DRNaith »
The clue is in the title. Hull have made an official approach.
That’s all it is. Doesn’t mean the Club will agree to GM having talks nor does it mean GM wants to have talks with Hull.

Don’t panic yet folks.


SM says we can’t stop him having talks if he wants them.
I’ve showed examples of clubs that have refused permission but as someone said the rules may have changed

Well you haven't really. What you've shown is a media response to talk about a manager being approached. Much the same as our media responded by saying they would rebuff any approach from Hull.

The truth is, under LMA rules you can't refuse permission. It's there in black and white. If a club makes an official approach you have to tell the manager, it's then his choice whether to attend for an interview or not. Clubs can't stop him.



Do we know McCann has made a decision?

Campsall rover

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #103 on June 20, 2019, 09:09:29 pm by Campsall rover »
The clue is in the title. Hull have made an official approach.
That’s all it is. Doesn’t mean the Club will agree to GM having talks nor does it mean GM wants to have talks with Hull.

Don’t panic yet folks.


SM says we can’t stop him having talks if he wants them.
I’ve showed examples of clubs that have refused permission but as someone said the rules may have changed

Well you haven't really. What you've shown is a media response to talk about a manager being approached. Much the same as our media responded by saying they would rebuff any approach from Hull.

The truth is, under LMA rules you can't refuse permission. It's there in black and white. If a club makes an official approach you have to tell the manager, it's then his choice whether to attend for an interview or not. Clubs can't stop him.
If that’s the case what is the point of having a contract. Not worth the paper they are written on.

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #104 on June 20, 2019, 09:17:58 pm by Retdon1 »
The clue is in the title. Hull have made an official approach.
That’s all it is. Doesn’t mean the Club will agree to GM having talks nor does it mean GM wants to have talks with Hull.

Don’t panic yet folks.


SM says we can’t stop him having talks if he wants them.
I’ve showed examples of clubs that have refused permission but as someone said the rules may have changed

Well you haven't really. What you've shown is a media response to talk about a manager being approached. Much the same as our media responded by saying they would rebuff any approach from Hull.

The truth is, under LMA rules you can't refuse permission. It's there in black and white. If a club makes an official approach you have to tell the manager, it's then his choice whether to attend for an interview or not. Clubs can't stop him.
If that’s the case what is the point of having a contract. Not worth the paper they are written on.

I’m guessing the contract means we get some sort of compensation

dickos1

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #105 on June 20, 2019, 09:19:50 pm by dickos1 »
The clue is in the title. Hull have made an official approach.
That’s all it is. Doesn’t mean the Club will agree to GM having talks nor does it mean GM wants to have talks with Hull.

Don’t panic yet folks.


SM says we can’t stop him having talks if he wants them.
I’ve showed examples of clubs that have refused permission but as someone said the rules may have changed

Well you haven't really. What you've shown is a media response to talk about a manager being approached. Much the same as our media responded by saying they would rebuff any approach from Hull.

The truth is, under LMA rules you can't refuse permission. It's there in black and white. If a club makes an official approach you have to tell the manager, it's then his choice whether to attend for an interview or not. Clubs can't stop him.



Aberdeen released an offficial statement saying they were refusing rangers permission.
The articles also had quotes from officials at the clubs.
The Hull article didn’t.


silent majority

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #106 on June 20, 2019, 09:22:08 pm by silent majority »
The clue is in the title. Hull have made an official approach.
That’s all it is. Doesn’t mean the Club will agree to GM having talks nor does it mean GM wants to have talks with Hull.

Don’t panic yet folks.


SM says we can’t stop him having talks if he wants them.
I’ve showed examples of clubs that have refused permission but as someone said the rules may have changed

Well you haven't really. What you've shown is a media response to talk about a manager being approached. Much the same as our media responded by saying they would rebuff any approach from Hull.

The truth is, under LMA rules you can't refuse permission. It's there in black and white. If a club makes an official approach you have to tell the manager, it's then his choice whether to attend for an interview or not. Clubs can't stop him.



Aberdeen released an offficial statement saying they were refusing rangers permission.
The articles also had quotes from officials at the clubs.
The Hull article didn’t.



The LMA rules as written apply to the EFL.

Just read the rule book, its dead simple. As much as people say they're going to refuse permission they can't. End of.




craigdrfc

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #107 on June 20, 2019, 09:23:48 pm by craigdrfc »
Reports on the Hull side are saying compensation will be ‘much less’ than the 500k they would have needed to pay Lincoln for Cowley.

Not saying thats true, just regurgitating what Ive seen.

dickos1

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #108 on June 20, 2019, 09:30:12 pm by dickos1 »
But there’s also been examples of a club refusing a manager permission and then the manager has just resigned and gone to said club anyway.

Anyhow it doesn’t really matter, if he wants to stay he’ll stay.
Suppose us as fans should have the same mindset as he has had with the players.

We only want people here who want to be

silent majority

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« Reply #109 on June 20, 2019, 09:41:06 pm by silent majority »
But there’s also been examples of a club refusing a manager permission and then the manager has just resigned and gone to said club anyway.

Anyhow it doesn’t really matter, if he wants to stay he’ll stay.
Suppose us as fans should have the same mindset as he has had with the players.

We only want people here who want to be


The rules as written say you can't. Break the rule and the club has penalties, such as transfer embargo's etc. Therefore, despite the local media saying we would refuse permission, DRFC can't.

BigH

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #110 on June 20, 2019, 09:50:17 pm by BigH »
Why did Adkins leave anyone know?
I believe it was over the budget. He was happy with the package offered to him, just not the budget made available.

If true, you can plausibly see why they would want McCann and McCann might want to go there. He's done relatively well on a small budget (even refused to spend transfer money if reports are true), and realistically (even in a bad financial state) Hull could offer him a much higher salary than we could.

Very hard for a fella with kids to turn that down.
Aye but he could be out of a job in 6 months.

The odds that a league manager will lose their job during a season are roughly 1 in 2. Horrendous. And GM is still horribly inexperienced as a manager.

While it might be flattering, If I were him I'd think very carefully about any offer.

Fur Calf

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #111 on June 20, 2019, 09:57:55 pm by Fur Calf »
How long is McCann's contract with the Rovers? For any compensation to be awarded/agreed surely that would be dependable on the length of the contract or is my interpretation too simplistic?

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #112 on June 20, 2019, 10:06:05 pm by idler »
Isn't it a 12 month rolling contract like DF had?

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #113 on June 20, 2019, 10:14:25 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Isn't it a 12 month rolling contract like DF had?

Yeah so if it's the same time period as footballers are then he has about a week left on his current contract.

silent majority

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« Reply #114 on June 20, 2019, 10:18:19 pm by silent majority »
Isn't it a 12 month rolling contract like DF had?

Yeah so if it's the same time period as footballers are then he has about a week left on his current contract.

No, it's a rolling contract, therefore it always has 12 months to run.


Chris Black come back

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #115 on June 20, 2019, 10:19:14 pm by Chris Black come back »
A rolling 12 month contract means that at any given point of time, there is always 12 months left. It effectively means that the manager will always get 12 months pay if sacked, and the club will always get 12 months pay-equivalent as compensation is the manager walks (as minimum).

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #116 on June 20, 2019, 10:35:10 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Well, let's hope this is concluded one way or another tomorrow. I would imagine McCann will be sleeping with alot of thoughts going through his head. Grass is not always greener but the man's ambition may be strong!

colincramb

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #117 on June 21, 2019, 08:22:19 am by colincramb »
People saying cliff Byrne should be promoted if grant leaves. What’s wrong with succession planning? Many top businesses around the world operate on this basis. Many positives to this approach I think

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Re: Hull make official approach for McCan
« Reply #118 on June 21, 2019, 09:50:18 am by roversdude »
Are we expecting an announcement today from either GM Rovers or Hull

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« Reply #119 on June 21, 2019, 10:01:24 am by Move DRFC »
I think we'll know the sitch today. McCann met with our board last night, so they'll now know what his stance is. If he stays, we'll hear about it today. If not I'm sure we'll hear that talks with Hull have begun/been finalised.

 

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