England Lionesses

[Axholme Lion]

I was going to watch a game but I heard a group of twelve year olds were putting down their jumpers for goal posts on Westwoodside playing fields, so I had a walk down to watch a higher quality game.

[IDM]

Standard of football has been generally high. Although some of the goalkeeping has been poor. The Argentine keeper excepted.

The Chilean goalkeeper who plays for PSG was outstanding vs the USA.  Kept them down to 3-0 almost single handed..

Chile has just over 700 registered women players, the USA over 1.5 million (according to the bbc).

[Draytonian III]

Westwoodside is that close to Bermondsey

[RoversAlias]

Choosing to watch a group of random children run around instead of sitting at home and watching adults play in a high quality football match is certainly an interesting choice.

(And yes, I know it was a facetious attempt at humour rather than a genuine thing)

[scawsby steve]

I'm sick now that we have to play the mighty USA in the semi-final. I'm just watching the Italy/Holland game, and England would blow either of them away.

[drfchound]

We will........if Holland do get to the Final.

[Bristol Red Rover]

With both the Copa America and Africa Cup of Nations happening, I haven't had time to see womens games.

[Pancho Regan]

I was going to watch a game but I heard a group of twelve year olds were putting down their jumpers for goal posts on Westwoodside playing fields, so I had a walk down to watch a higher quality game.

When I saw that you had posted on this thread, I immediately knew what your view would be before I even read your post.

Interesting that isn’t it?

[sha66y]

If opening doors for women is your badge you are indeed far far behind in the societal evolution .

I don’t quite understand how far the societal evolution has progressed if I’m still far behind it?

[SouthStandFan]

I stand by my comment that someone jumped on in the other thread and I never replied to. The women's game is entertaining but the standard (particularly of passing), is very poor. In 2016 the Australian women's team were beaten 7-0 by an under 15 boys side. The women were ranked number 5 in the world.

As much as people might say don't compare them to the men's side... I think in fighting for equal exposure and pay, it must be taken into account.

Good luck to them and I hope they go all the way. But... Still in my opinion would be beaten by a decent pub team and absolutely thrashed by any semi pro non league side.

[IDM]

Equal pay for representing your country is a fair argument.

At club level, for the pro players, that’s down to the financial status of the clubs..

[steve@dcfd]

Whatever the opinions are it women against women at international level. It’s not women against boys or men. The ladies are representing our country if you have no interest so be it a lot of other people have shown interest.

[scawsby steve]

I stand by my comment that someone jumped on in the other thread and I never replied to. The women's game is entertaining but the standard (particularly of passing), is very poor. In 2016 the Australian women's team were beaten 7-0 by an under 15 boys side. The women were ranked number 5 in the world.

As much as people might say don't compare them to the men's side... I think in fighting for equal exposure and pay, it must be taken into account.

Good luck to them and I hope they go all the way. But... Still in my opinion would be beaten by a decent pub team and absolutely thrashed by any semi pro non league side.

I've been involved in local football, and I've never seen any pub team that could pass and move like the England and USA women's teams.

[dickos1]

That’s because they’re playing against other women though.
The average non league footballer even at north east counties level is a very good footballer.
A side like armthorpe or rossington would give the England national side a trouncing

[scawsby steve]

That’s because they’re playing against other women though.
The average non league footballer even at north east counties level is a very good footballer.
A side like armthorpe or rossington would give the England national side a trouncing

They're not pub teams Dickos, they're semi-professionals. Big difference.

[dickos1]

Ok mate
I was just commenting on the cmmment he made about a semi pro side thrashing them. Was just agreeing.
Although there has been a few pub teams that were as good as sides like armthorpe over the years

[SouthStandFan]

Just to clarify I'm not detracting from their achievements and as I said I find it entertaining and will be watching them tomorrow.

My point I suppose is that there is a big push to put them on a par with the men's team (for example the BBC stating they have broken this record and that record against the men's England side), if we are comparing then we can't pick and choose the metrics we are using.

The argument (I introduced) about it being a pub team standard or semi pro standard is semantics. What I'm getting at is, despite the media narrative that this is a sport on par with the men's game, it is actually nowhere near and if that were more widely recognised/admitted to, people could just enjoy the game for what it is. And the women involved could be compensated according to their own merits as sports stars/entertainers, not over inflated to compare to the vastly more competitive men's game. 

[Spilsby Red]

I agree. Women’s football has evolved. Unfortunately not near men’s football. Before anyone says, that’s not a sexist comment. But, come on England. Do your best, that’s all anyone asks

[silent majority]

The financial argument being put forward, of equal pay, essentially comes from the USA women's team. But there's a major reason for that, and that's because the USA women's team generates more revenue for the USA FA than the men's team. In the last 3 years the wome's team generated £40m and the men's team £39m, but the women's bonus is £87k and the men's equivalent bonus would be £321k.

[drfchound]

Just settling down to watch our girls.
Got my drink, ready to cheer them on.
Come on England.

[IDM]

Rapinoe on the bench might be good for England but watch out for her replacement, Press..

[IDM]

0-1.. powerful header from Press..

[drfchound]

Bright looking very dodgy in our back line.

[drfchound]

What a great goal.

[IDM]

1-1.. super cross field pass, control, great cross and a classy finish from White..

[DearneValleyRover]

Bright looking very dodgy in our back line.

Very surprised she got picked tonight, she was the weak link against Norway

[NickDRFC]

Any of these players ever play for the Belles or am I about 10 years too late?

[RoversAlias]

Millie Bright, at centre half.

[dickos1]

Millie bright did I believe

[drfchound]

Bright looking very dodgy in our back line.

Very surprised she got picked tonight, she was the weak link against Norway

Yep, her passing is a liability.