Who Wants Boris To Fail?

[DonnyOsmond]

Boris has a job on his hands to unite this country.

[RobTheRover]

I want him to fail.  Him to fail.  Him, a man who has lied, cheated, blundered and conspired to have a journalist beaten up.  He should be no where near the PM job.

I do want the country to succeed.  The two are not mutually exclusive.  I'm prepared to wait for the country if it means we can get rid of him first.

[IDM]

If you think it's an utterly f**king pointless debate why did you get involved?

Pedant..

It’s turned into a pointless debate..  begs the question why you started it if you are twisting the responses/.

f**king hell I can’t wait for the football to start!!

[Bentley Bullet]

What responses am I twisting?

[Bentley Bullet]

I want him to fail.  Him to fail.  Him, a man who has lied, cheated, blundered and conspired to have a journalist beaten up.  He should be no where near the PM job.

I do want the country to succeed.  The two are not mutually exclusive.  I'm prepared to wait for the country if it means we can get rid of him first.

How on earth can he fail without failing the country? And if/when he does get removed, which squeaky clean replacement do you have in mind?

[Boomstick]

Finding this thread highly entertaining, the amount of lefty remoaners on here who have spat their dummy out is hilarious.
Keep it coming! Love it!   

[Boomstick]

Well Boris?

Well, give him chance to deliver brexit, and when he does he will call a general election and win in a landslide.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Finding this thread highly entertaining, the amount of lefty remoaners on here who have spat their dummy out is hilarious.
Keep it coming! Love it!   

Aye. You really, REALLY want the country to unite don't you?

I'll give you my two pennorth.

If Johnson puts a lifetime of lying behind him. If he puts behind him a lifetime of glibly nasty racism, homophobia, sexism and the sort of lib-baiting that that gets a response from certain idiots. If he gets past his legendary lack of interest in detail. If he finds a solution to the Brexit mess that he produced which unites the country that he, personally has divided for his own gain. If he starts to address the existentially serious problems facing our country, like our horrific collapse in productivity growth and our income and wealth inequality, lack.of affordable housing, over-reliance on a bloated financial market, our response to the coming waves of AI and climate change.

If he does all that, I'll take my hat off to him as the greatest PM of my lifetime.

I WANT him to do all those things because I want our country to be lead by people who understand what needs to be done to secure our future.

But I would bet on him to do a single one of them.

[Boomstick]

Like I said  .

This is gold

[BillyStubbsTears]

Like I said. Lib baiting that amuses certain idiots.

[Glyn_Wigley]

  Filo, Gordon Brown was appointed leader of the Labour party in an uncontested election.

I don't remember Boris lambasting Teresa May for not immediately having an election when she became Prime Minister unopposed.

[wilts rover]

  Respect to BST. he has defended his stance on the EU, and has not wavered one bit, but apart from him, who I know is a member of the Labour party, who else voted for GC. to be the leader of the Labour party.
   Do people actually vote for who is the leader of a party? or for the party that attracts your vote with its policies?
    Anyone who would like the country to fail because of it's leader has a poor outlook on life in my opinion, and of all the party leaders at the moment, probably Boris Johnson is the party leader who has the widest appeal at the moment.
   The others are non entities apart from Nigel Farage.

Hmm, low bar

"Which of the following best reflects your reaction to Boris Johnson becoming leader?"

47% ~ Dismayed/disappointed
28% ~ Delighted/pleased
17% ~ Don't mind either way
  8% ~ Don't Know

Via @YouGov, 23 July

https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1153678839207403521

[BillyStubbsTears]

It is indeed a low bar Wilts.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1153653277176860672

[wilts rover]

It is indeed a low bar Wilts.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1153653277176860672

That's correct. When May took over she had a 34 point lead over Corbyn. Johnson has 14.

[coventryrover]

  Respect to BST. he has defended his stance on the EU, and has not wavered one bit, but apart from him, who I know is a member of the Labour party, who else voted for GC. to be the leader of the Labour party.
   Do people actually vote for who is the leader of a party? or for the party that attracts your vote with its policies?
    Anyone who would like the country to fail because of it's leader has a poor outlook on life in my opinion, and of all the party leaders at the moment, probably Boris Johnson is the party leader who has the widest appeal at the moment.
   The others are non entities apart from Nigel Farage.

for all the reasons ings e he is not fit for purpose.   Why do we have to accept someone like him being the pinnacle of our country.

Because we live in a democracy.

didn't really 100k tories represented a democracy

[IDM]

What responses am I twisting?

Mine, at least..

Never mind, forget it.. you’re not worth it..

[Boomstick]

Like I said. Lib baiting that amuses certain idiots.

Who's baiting? I'm just laughing at you spitting your dummy out again

[Copps is Magic]

Some right lunacy on here. Never mind the OP sucking on the ballsack of an Eton w**ker buffoon.

But what about this codswallop about 'accepting' democracy? A fringe, minority element fights for 30 years to mainstreams an opinion, succeeds, leaving those of us who voted remain now in that minority - but with now apparently no entitlement to fight for that which we believe in. Talk about double standards.

Oh Borris, dear leader, we accept you.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Like I said. Lib baiting that amuses certain idiots.

Who's baiting? I'm just laughing at you spitting your dummy out again

How bizarre. Where did I spit my dummy out?

[wilts rover]

Back to the original question and I don't want Johnson to fail. I want him to succeed - in disappointing at least some of his current cheerleaders when he breaks at least one of the contradictory promises he has made regarding Brexit.

He said he will renegotiate a deal with the EU and it is a million to one chance he can't. The EU say May's deal is the only deal.
He said he can't accept May's deal because of the Irish backstop - the EU have said any deal must have a backstop for the Irish border.
He said we are leaving on 31st October deal or no deal. Parliament has voted against no deal (and from tomorrow will have more people prepared to support that stance)
He said he will prorogue parliament to achieve leaving on 31st October. Parliament has voted against being prorogued.
He said he wont hold a 2nd Referendum/People's Vote
He said he wont hold a General Election

It is impossible for all of the above to be true. Take your pick as to which promise he is going to break and if you then think that means he will have 'failed' or not.

[i_ateallthepies]

Filo, are you one of those people who keep saying people have changed their minds in the last three years therfore we should have another referendum.
   But will not let give Boris Johnson credit for changing his mind when it suits.

No, I’m one of those that will chage my mind when presented with the facts that proves I was wrong, not a chancer that sits on the fence and waits to see which way the wind blows

Filo, that is a terrible thing to say about BB... terrible!

[Bentley Bullet]

If accepting a democratic vote and supporting its implementation is sitting on the fence then yes, I'm sitting on the fence!

[Sprotyrover]

I just want somebody to get a grip of the whole mess and sort it. If it’s Boris fair enough. I don’t see anyone else on the Horizon getting things sorted.

[Donnywolf]

Well Boris?

Well, give him chance to deliver brexit, and when he does he will call a general election and win in a landslide.

Yes like Mrs Thatcher he will get 42% of the votes and get a landslide victory

So 42 in every 100 will want the Tories to Govern them and 58 in every hundred will oppose them. Very democratic

[IDM]

If accepting a democratic vote and supporting its implementation is sitting on the fence then yes, I'm sitting on the fence!

Hmm.,  supporting its implementation..  fair enough, in principle, but isn’t it a rolling goatf**k at present.?

[BillyStubbsTears]

If accepting a democratic vote and supporting its implementation is sitting on the fence then yes, I'm sitting on the fence!

Hmm.,  supporting its implementation..  fair enough, in principle, but isn’t it a rolling goatf**k at present.?

Good luck getting anything sensible out of BB on the topic of what sort of Brexit deal we should get. If you manage to get something specific, you're a far better man than I.

[Bentley Bullet]

If accepting a democratic vote and supporting its implementation is sitting on the fence then yes, I'm sitting on the fence!

Hmm.,  supporting its implementation..  fair enough, in principle, but isn’t it a rolling goatf**k at present.?

I'm always fair when it comes to principles. It's a sure sign of the lack of principles of other forum members that makes me so controversial.

[selby]

  BB, thanks, you take the pressure off the rest of us.

[Bentley Bullet]

  BB, thanks, you take the pressure off the rest of us.

I always find that being right is a great advantage in an argument.

[bpoolrover]

Filo, are you one of those people who keep saying people have changed their minds in the last three years therfore we should have another referendum.
   But will not let give Boris Johnson credit for changing his mind when it suits.

No, I’m one of those that will chage my mind when presented with the facts that proves I was wrong, not a chancer that sits on the fence and waits to see which way the wind blows

is that not what the Labour Party are doing filo, first they backed brexit, then were unsure now that the Lib Dem’s and greens have took there vote they now want a 2nd referendum, if somehow boris can get a deal thru the house(which I doubt) they would then no doubt change there mind again