Marquis

[IDM]

That’s not the point I was making..

I meant the value to a buying club relates to what he can deliver in the time he is playing for them..

[phil old leake]

If the club have only valued him at £1,000,000 why didn’t we sell last year at £2,000,000

[RedJ]

If the club have only valued him at £1,000,000 why didn’t we sell last year at £2,000,000

Almost as if he's... making shit up to suit an agenda?

[dickos1]

Won’t have dropped a million, but the price will obviously be less now

[RoversAlias]

Nobody anywhere has confirmed the value at which we are intending to sell Marquis for, if at all.

He is in the prime of his career, coming off a very successful season. He is worth a bare minimum £1.5m in my opinion, even with a year left on his contract. Anywhere between that and £2m and I think we'll have done good business.

[DearneValleyRover]

Well Portsmouth fans are usually on the ball when it comes to knowing who they are signing and they haven’t heard a thing down here, I’m in Gosport so I might pop down the road to see if JM is knocking about.

He might not be meeting club representatives at the ground.

I know the last bit was tongue in cheek although I am in Gosport

My post was tongue in cheek too DVR. We really do need that Imogee adding to the options,

I can imagine you peeping round corners all day in Portsmouth.
It would be a bit like the Monty Python World Championship Hide and Seek Final.
(If you remember that).

I certainly do, I’m off to get the ferry across right now

[DearneValleyRover]

Why is JM being in the last year of his contract suddenly making his value drop? The club have stated no player is for sale but each one has a value. JM’s is the same as it was in January if someone wants him they have to pay that amount as the club are more than happy for him to stay given as they see him as an integral part of a promotion push.

[dickos1]

Of course it makes his value drop.
In January he was 18 months from being available on a free transfer and now he’s only around 10 months away.
It’s just a fact that the closer a player gets to the end of his contract that his price will go down

[DearneValleyRover]

Of course it makes his value drop.
In January he was 18 months from being available on a free transfer and now he’s only around 10 months away.
It’s just a fact that the closer a player gets to the end of his contract that his price will go down

No dickos it doesn’t if you don’t want to sell, I feel most are missing that point. The club wants promotion they see John as being able to deliver that, if he does we will be in the Championship and they feel he would then sign a new contract if we don’t he leaves for free it’s a risk they are willing to take unless someone meets their valuation.

[dickos1]

Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.

[RoversAlias]

The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.

[StocktonRover]

It was only a few weeks ago that the Posh chairman said that he would expect him to go for around £2M.
Can’t find the link but fairly sure he posted it on twitter as a response to a question in La Manga when he had his picture done with JM.

[DRNaith]

Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.

From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.

[DearneValleyRover]

Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.

Really?

[DearneValleyRover]

The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.

The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever

[dickos1]

Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.

From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.

Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it

[dickos1]

The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.

The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever

Nobody knows what his valuation was then or what it is now, and I completely agree with roversalias the length left on a contract directly correlates to a players value.
It’s a fact of football

[DonnyBazR0ver]

DM says we have still not had any concrete bids for JM.

[DearneValleyRover]

The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.

The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever

Nobody knows what his valuation was then or what it is now, and I completely agree with roversalias the length left on a contract directly correlates to a players value.
It’s a fact of football

It’s only a fact if you want to sell it’s a point you keep missing

[RoversAlias]

The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.

The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever

I think that view is a little naive to be honest DVR. I know that if we don't want to sell him we won't feel forced into it but it'd be bad business to keep him now then lose him for a free next summer, or pennies in January. Clubs won't pay over the odds for him at any rate so it is all dependent on a suitable bid being tabled by one of these clubs that allegedly wants to sign him.

[Jonathan]

Darren Moore has confirmed that there have been no concrete offers for Marquis. So it could only be assumed that any talks he’s reported to have held with other clubs (and I see no reason to believe that there have been any, yet) would have been conducted without the consent of the club.

I still think he will leave, but I think this thread is full of pure speculation that’s lacking any foundation.

[DearneValleyRover]

The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.

The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever

I think that view is a little naive to be honest DVR. I know that if we don't want to sell home we won't feel forced into it but it'd be bad business to keep him now then lose him for a free next summer, or pennies in January. Clubs won't pay over the odds for him at any rate so it is all dependent on a suitable bid being tabled by one of these clubs that allegedly wants to sign him.

I wondered when the word naive would pop up. Normally I would agree with you but in this instance I’m aware of the clubs stance and it hasn’t changed since January

[IDM]

Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.

From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.

Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it

If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?

[dickos1]

The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.

The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever

Nobody knows what his valuation was then or what it is now, and I completely agree with roversalias the length left on a contract directly correlates to a players value.
It’s a fact of football

It’s only a fact if you want to sell it’s a point you keep missing

A player still has a value whether a club wants to sell or not.

[dickos1]

Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.

From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.

Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it

If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?

No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?

[DearneValleyRover]

The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.

The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever

Nobody knows what his valuation was then or what it is now, and I completely agree with roversalias the length left on a contract directly correlates to a players value.
It’s a fact of football

It’s only a fact if you want to sell it’s a point you keep missing

A player still has a value whether a club wants to sell or not.

I haven’t stated anything different

[IDM]

Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.

From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.

Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it

If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?

No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?

In all honesty if he stays o can’t see him not signing a new contract..

It’d just my opinion, but I would happily have a season like last, even if it means not getting money for him.

[dickos1]

So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract

[IDM]

I didn’t say that..

[Jonathan]

The official line from the club is that Marquis’ valuation stands at the amount that Darren Moore believes would provide him with an opportunity to improve the team and squad overall. In my view, that sum is unlikely to be the zero it would be next summer.

Basic economics suggest a club would be unlikely to offer the same amount that they offered in January given that they know the date is drawing nearer that they could hold out and get him for nothing. On that basis I believe his prospective valuation will have fallen as a direct consequence of the ambition we displayed by rejecting all offers in January.

Fair play to the club, they rolled the dice and it nearly paid off. If we were to sell him for a little less now then we shouldn’t have any complaints. We should still be in a position to command a decent sum to reinvest, just not quite what it would’ve been in January.