Morrissey v the Guardian

[SydneyRover]

''Morrissey performs in LA wearing explicit anti-Guardian vest

Former Smiths frontman and supporter of far-right party For Britain has criticised the UK newspaper in the past''

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/27/morrissey-performs-in-la-wearing-f**k-the-guardian-t-shirt

didn't he do the song 'Cry like a Baby' ? 

Added the other link didn't work

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/27/morrissey-performs-in-la-wearing-f**k-the-guardian-t-shirt

[scawsby steve]

''Morrissey performs in LA wearing explicit anti-Guardian vest

Former Smiths frontman and supporter of far-right party For Britain has criticised the UK newspaper in the past''

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/27/morrissey-performs-in-la-wearing-f**k-the-guardian-t-shirt

didn't he do the song 'Cry like a Baby' ? 

I must admit Sydney, I would consider buying the Guardian, but I find Andrex to be much softer.

Have a nice week. x

[SydneyRover]

love you too Steve  up the rovers

[foxbat]

looks like Stephen is making himself look even more silly these days.
Probably a telegraph reader these days and without Johnney Marr his music is rubbish,
should have packed it in years ago.

Strange - when I look at the papers in the newsagent and glance at the headlines ,I see the Guardian as the least likely 'hate-rag' of the lot. Tells a lot of truth as well , probably why a lot of people don't like it , prefer their (obvious) lies and fantasy.

[Glyn_Wigley]

That's what I always thought about The Smiths. Great music. Great lyrics. Shit singer.

[Bentley Bullet]

......But if he supported Labour he'd be a great singer.

This forum gets more pathetic each day.

[IDM]

......But if he supported Labour he'd be a great singer.

This forum gets more pathetic each day.

the smiths were/are one of my favourite bands of all time, especially in their first 2 or 3 years.

I liked the music, regardless of Morissey’s personality or his politics..

So I really don’t understand your point BB.?

Billy Bragg was/is very leftist and even brought that into some of his music, if anything that put me off..

Same with Paul Weller.

But generally with music I either like the sound, or I don’t.  Nothing more and nothing less..

[IDM]

And being pedantic, it was always “the smiths” in lower case, deliberately.

[Bentley Bullet]

......But if he supported Labour he'd be a great singer.

This forum gets more pathetic each day.

the smiths were/are one of my favourite bands of all time, especially in their first 2 or 3 years.

I liked the music, regardless of Morissey’s personality or his politics..

So I really don’t understand your point BB.?

Billy Bragg was/is very leftist and even brought that into some of his music, if anything that put me off..

Same with Paul Weller.

But generally with music I either like the sound, or I don’t.  Nothing more and nothing less..

I agree with you. I imagine all level headed people would also.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Wagner was a proto-Fascist with horrific social views, but that doesnt change the fact that he's the greatest composer of all time.

Morrissey is and always has been the most ignorantly stupid kind of Little Englander, but that doesn't change the fact that he was part of one of the greatest bands of all time.

But as Foxbat says, he's been w**k as a solo act.

Since the band broke up, he's produced nothing of any musical interest, bar Suedehead. I gave up after Viva Hate, which was self indulgent maudlin shite.

Interestingly, on that very first solo album, he produced one of THE worst songs of all time, "Bengali in Platforms".

It wasn't awful because it was full of bone idle, thick racism (although it was). It was awful because it was f**king dreadful music and song composition.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Da2UyCNWlD1c&ved=0ahUKEwiR0JmFjcTlAhWSX8AKHbGRCFkQyCkITjAC&usg=AOvVaw2FNEJ1VRROizuzSIC5l-Rx

 I've not seen much better from him in the past 30 years. He's an irrelevance, musically and socially.

[IDM]

the smiths went downhill after The Queen is Dead LP, IMHO, and that at a push..

[Bentley Bullet]

......But if he supported Labour, would it have been mentioned that he was a shit singer?

[BillyStubbsTears]

This is how idly thick Morrissey's racism is.

While he was making songs effectively telling Indians to go back home, and while he was venerating stars of 1960s English culture on his sing covers, there was a generation of young Asian-background musicians growing up in the UK who were genuinely embracing the West without losing their own culture.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DDJztXj2GPfk&ved=0ahUKEwjkroqDksTlAhWLasAKHb9xAIQQyCkISzAC&usg=AOvVaw3S9Fpk6EtXBXdiXZyv11cM

Morrissey would be never be able to process that,be sure his culture isn't dynamic and changing. It's set in stone from his childhood.

[Bentley Bullet]

Just as an aside..... How is it a fact that Wagner's the greatest composer of all time?

[IDM]

......But if he supported Labour, would it have been mentioned that he was a shit singer?

Why not? The two aren’t connected..

[Bentley Bullet]

Exactly! So why was his singing ability mentioned?

[tommy toes]

Just as an aside..... How is it a fact that Wagner's the greatest composer of all time?

He was great in Hart to Hart....

Seriously I can't see how Wagner could be described as the greatest classical composer of all time.

Beethoven maybe. Mozart probably.
Though Liszt is my favourite.
Opinion not fact.
.

[Bentley Bullet]

Maybe he got the fact from the Guardian.

[tommy toes]

Now now BB. I agree with nearly everything BST puts on here.

Just not this one

[Bentley Bullet]

Now THAT is a fact!

[MachoMadness]

People in having different opinions on singer's musical talent shocker.

[Bentley Bullet]

So who is the best singer then, Morrisey or the Guardian?

[IDM]

Exactly! So why was his singing ability mentioned?

Seems a natural thread development.. someone posts about Morrissey and the discussion moves to his musical abilities..

There’s a progression to classical music composers too, does it matter how they vote.?

[Glyn_Wigley]

Exactly! So why was his singing ability mentioned?

Because he's a shit singer. So am I. That's why.

Unlike BB, who's just a shit stirrer. And a shit one of those too.

[Bentley Bullet]

Exactly! So why was his singing ability mentioned?

Seems a natural thread development.. someone posts about Morrissey and the discussion moves to his musical abilities..

There’s a progression to classical music composers too, does it matter how they vote.?

No! it doesn't matter how someone votes, whether he's a shit singer or the greatest composer in the world, factually or not! But people who insist on 'grown-up' political discussions shouldn't diversify from the subject in hand in order to strengthen their point, especially by criticizing someone about something completely different.

That's the last straw, man.

[Glyn_Wigley]

My ironyometer just blew a fuse.

[Bentley Bullet]

Exactly! So why was his singing ability mentioned?

Because he's a shit singer. So am I. That's why.

Unlike BB, who's just a shit stirrer. And a shit one of those too.

Is that why you've got shit political views, because, like Morrisey you're a shit singer?

[scawsby steve]

Exactly! So why was his singing ability mentioned?

Because he's a shit singer. So am I. That's why.

Unlike BB, who's just a shit stirrer. And a shit one of those too.

Is that why you've got shit political views, because, like Morrisey you're a shit singer?

That logic applies perfectly to me BB. Having sung in bands as a young man, I rate myself as a good singer. That must be why my political opinions are so good.

[Bentley Bullet]

Me too, Steve. In my early days, It was thought I'd make a tenor. As yet I haven't even made 30 bob.

[scawsby steve]

Me too, Steve. In my early days, It was thought I'd make a tenor. As yet I haven't even made 30 bob.

Same as when I was boxing. The last fight I had, he hit me that f*cking hard I had to pay to get back in.