Brutal

[Herbert Anchovy]

Just watched Jeremy Corbyn being interviewed by Andrew Neil. It has to one of the most brutal pieces of TV all year. JC came across as tetchy, evasive and at times exhausted by it all. He’s really not done himself any favours.

I bet Boris watched that and is shitting himself knowing that it’s his turn soon.

[drfchound]

Just waiting for people to now  tell us on here that JC handled himself well and that the interviewer was Tory biased.

[Jonathan]

Awful television all round. These one on one political interviews are invariably more about the interviewer than the interviewee (for Andrew Neil see Paxman or Morgan). Neil frenetically yelled out one question and then shouted the next one out during the answer, adding in his own unwelcome rhetoric at every opportunity. Corbyn failed in the main to convince in response (on the few occasions that Neil shut up, that is).

No bias on show, just an opportunity for Neil to shout out objectionably. He’ll do the same to all that face him. I don’t rate him, alas it seems many are entertained by that approach.

The outcome - poor viewing, nothing learned, I doubt anyone that watched it will change the opinion they had at the start of it.

[Sprotyrover]

Don't see Boris doing well against neil either! If it's any consolation.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bang on Jonathan. Neil is very skilled at this, but the aim is not to educate. It's to trip up. It's the spirit of the age unfortunately. And that doesn't help the political atmosphere from any side. It just encourages this corrosive belief that they are all deceitful and incompetent.

I've seen Neil do this with politicians of all sides. And Humphries who was worse because he didn't have Neil's intellectual heft.

A try skilled interviewer gives an interviewer time and space to let their real personality come out. Like David Frost with Richard Nixon. Skilled interviewing is not about battering interviewees into defensiveness and mistakes.

[wing commander]

  Good answers gents,straight out of the leaked Labour activists private whatsap group where even they acknowledged how bad he had been, and what responses to flood social with to negate the damage..

   However lets start with Neil.Neil isn't interested in peoples personalities,he leaves that to Marr and Peston.Neil asks the questions that people want answering.Infact he asked the exact same question I asked on here earlier this week in how can Labour remain neutral during a second vote when the majority of his front bench, and over a 100 mp's have said they will campaign remain.Now Politicians when faced with a question they don't want to answer will try and skirt around it and he doesn't let them.He stops them and pushes them back on point and that's something I want,and a lot of the public want to see regardless of which Party it is.Which is why he's so popular..

  On the interview itself,it was car crash telly and Corbyn had a very bad night.i thought he did okay in the leaders debate but this was awful.Anti Semitism,Brexit,tax and how he intended funding the black hole for waspi, he stumbled through looking like a rabbit in the headlights and failed to answer any of the direct points put at him and by the end he was toast.However I accept the point that Boris might not fair any better when he eventually commits to his turn in the chair...

  If I was a labour supporter the finger pointing I would be doing this morning is not at Corbyn but at the researchers and campaign team who prepare him for these things.After yesterdays bad start to the day it was obvious what was coming  especially on anti semitisism and he didn't look prepared for it.That has been a issue for Labour all campaign imo..

 As for Jonathans point about nobody changing their opinion after that,yes you are probably right,but that's Labours problem.If they are to have a chance in this election they have to start changing people's minds because if their was a Election today chances are Boris will be PM and probably have a working majority...

  However putting all that aside the most important thing that struck me about that whole interview was just how little grasp Corbyn actually has about his own party's fiscal policies,has he read his own manifesto??

[selby]

  If he has he will probably vote conservative. After all he has over a million pounds savings to lose.  Or do you think he will have squirrelled it abroad so the nasty people can't get their hands on it?

[GazLaz]

Bang on Jonathan. Neil is very skilled at this, but the aim is not to educate. It's to trip up. It's the spirit of the age unfortunately. And that doesn't help the political atmosphere from any side. It just encourages this corrosive belief that they are all deceitful and incompetent.

I've seen Neil do this with politicians of all sides. And Humphries who was worse because he didn't have Neil's intellectual heft.

A try skilled interviewer gives an interviewer time and space to let their real personality come out. Like David Frost with Richard Nixon. Skilled interviewing is not about battering interviewees into defensiveness and mistakes.

Neil is constantly trying to set traps for whoever he is interviewing. It’s not particularly difficult to do when you control the interview, have time and a team of staff to prepare it and you pretty much know what answers the interviewee will give.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Just got me thinking, that post did Gaz.

How Neil operates is like a prosecution barrister questioning a defence witness. As you say, it's all about setting traps and trying to discredit the interviewee.

If that's how courts operated, every single prosecution would end up with a guilty verdict.

If we were serious about trying to get to the bottom of parties' policies and leaders' beliefs, maybe we should have one interviewer whose job is to trip up and pick apart the interviewee (like Neil) and one whose job is to be on their side and pull out the positives.

Then let us, like a jury, decide.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Which is kind of what we have isnt it? I've seen bits of the interviews and Neil is very good on some bits, I like the factual evidence he provides and this trips ALL of them up and youd think itll get Boris just as much.

It does show us how switched on some of the guys are, it let's us see what they're like when the pressure is on.

But, does it tell us what the policies are etc in detail? Not really hence whilst they have some use it's more on personality than policy. 

Will it make much difference?probably not, I'd say most are set in their ways and those that aren't probably didnt see it.

[Sprotyrover]

Jeremy Jew hater shot his self in the foot when he refused to apologise for his parties racist behaviour to the Jewish Community.I will be watching the full interview tonight and will report back to you later! By the way he gave Sturgeon a hard time too! Boris Johnson I anticipate will be like the fat estate girl “yeah but, No but,yeah but!

[Filo]

Jeremy Jew hater shot his self in the foot when he refused to apologise for his parties racist behaviour to the Jewish Community.I will be watching the full interview tonight and will report back to you later! By the way he gave Sturgeon a hard time too! Boris Johnson I anticipate will be like the fat estate girl “yeah but, No but,yeah but!

Jew hater? Evidence?

[wing commander]

How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..

[Herbert Anchovy]

Jeremy Jew hater shot his self in the foot when he refused to apologise for his parties racist behaviour to the Jewish Community.I will be watching the full interview tonight and will report back to you later! By the way he gave Sturgeon a hard time too! Boris Johnson I anticipate will be like the fat estate girl “yeah but, No but,yeah but!

Jew hater? Evidence?

The Daily Mail says so!!!!

[drfchound]

How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..

Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.

[Bentley Bullet]

Because, er, er, er, er, er, anyway, the Tories are selling the NHS don't you know.

[Herbert Anchovy]

Those of you sitting at the edge of your seats to see our PM being grilled by Andrew Neil may be disappointed. It seems he’s still not agreed a date with the BBC. Auntie Beeb kept that quiet! Only a cynic would think that our glorious leader saw Sturgeon and Corbyn go through the mill and he’s shit himself!

[Herbert Anchovy]

How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..

Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.

Don’t think they’ve said where it’s coming from have they? I’m buggered if I know where the funding will come from.

[BillyStubbsTears]

How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..

Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.

Governments have reserve funds for unexpected costs. McDonnell has said that this will be the means of funding this. He said (rightly) that if the Govt had lost the court case on the WASPI funding, it would have had to find that money from reserves. he said (this is a political decision) that Labour would not have opposed the WASPI case, and would act as though the Govt HAD lost the case.

Meantime, I see Dominic Raab's Foreign Office is claiming legal costs against the parents of Harry Dunn.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-crash-death-parents-of-teenager-livid-at-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-for-pursuing-a4292266.html

[Bentley Bullet]

Well, Andrew Neil wouldn't have grilled Boris as much as the others anyway, would he? So at least it's saved Jezza and his fans from reflecting on the BBC prejudice!

[Bentley Bullet]

How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..

Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.

Governments have reserve funds for unexpected costs. McDonnell has said that this will be the means of funding this. He said (rightly) that if the Govt had lost the court case on the WASPI funding, it would have had to find that money from reserves. he said (this is a political decision) that Labour would not have opposed the WASPI case, and would act as though the Govt HAD lost the case.

Meantime, I see Dominic Raab's Foreign Office is claiming legal costs against the parents of Harry Dunn.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-crash-death-parents-of-teenager-livid-at-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-for-pursuing-a4292266.html

But those funds are for unexpected costs. If Corbyn is going to use them for part of his manifesto they become part of the expected cost. What if then he needs unexpected funds for something unexpected?

[BillyStubbsTears]

BB.

Yep. Fair point. It's clearly an electioneering stunt. I don't question that.

See. You CAN do it, can't you?

[Herbert Anchovy]

Well, Andrew Neil wouldn't have grilled Boris as much as the others anyway, would he? So at least it's saved Jezza and his fans from reflecting on the BBC prejudice!

Nah BB - Andrew Neil is undoubtably right wing but he’s always even handed in the rigour of his questioning whatever the political persuasion. He’d give Johnson a tough time and when you’re as incompetent & untrustworthy as Boris is it’ll always end in tears. Or put another way, he’s bottled it cos he’s crap!

[Filo]

How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..

Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.

Governments have reserve funds for unexpected costs. McDonnell has said that this will be the means of funding this. He said (rightly) that if the Govt had lost the court case on the WASPI funding, it would have had to find that money from reserves. he said (this is a political decision) that Labour would not have opposed the WASPI case, and would act as though the Govt HAD lost the case.

Meantime, I see Dominic Raab's Foreign Office is claiming legal costs against the parents of Harry Dunn.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-crash-death-parents-of-teenager-livid-at-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-for-pursuing-a4292266.html

But those funds are for unexpected costs. If Corbyn is going to use them for part of his manifesto they become part of the expected cost. What if then he needs unexpected funds for something unexpected?

You mean like extra money for the DUP or money for that fake shipping company, or the exercise for operation stack?

[selby]

  Boris has offered the 13th of December, Andrew Neal is thrilled he will have the first TV interview and can cross examine the newly elected prime minister.

[Jonathan]

I think this topic will just go around in circles. I agree that Labour need to change minds to win seats and last night’s broadcast is unlikely to have changed any.

Is Jeremy Corbyn the ideal (or maybe I’ll say preferable) leader of the Labour Party? Not in my opinion, a stronger and more engaging leader would wipe the floor with the current government. That said, I really don’t see why Corbyn’s neutrality on Brexit presents such a big issue for some people. He’s explained his reasoning and logic. Whether you like it or have confidence in it or not is another matter, but the question was answered. Similar to the underlying theme here, most have made up their minds on Brexit regardless, so why do you need to know whether he would campaign to leave or remain? It won’t change an individual’s default position will it?

Is he racist or anti-Semitic? Of course he isn’t, but I would bet plenty of the people accusing him of being one or the other are.

If you dislike Corbyn and / or the Labour Party by default then I’m sure last nights so called “skewering” made for entertaining viewing. But I felt it added very little. Johnson, if he does accept the offer, will bluster through a similar skewering and nobody will change their mind as a result of it.

[Sprotyrover]

Jeremy Jew hater shot his self in the foot when he refused to apologise for his parties racist behaviour to the Jewish Community.I will be watching the full interview tonight and will report back to you later! By the way he gave Sturgeon a hard time too! Boris Johnson I anticipate will be like the fat estate girl “yeah but, No but,yeah but!

Jew hater? Evidence?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-not-involved-munich-olympics-massacre-wreath-laying#img-1

[Filo]

Jeremy Jew hater shot his self in the foot when he refused to apologise for his parties racist behaviour to the Jewish Community.I will be watching the full interview tonight and will report back to you later! By the way he gave Sturgeon a hard time too! Boris Johnson I anticipate will be like the fat estate girl “yeah but, No but,yeah but!

Jew hater? Evidence?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-not-involved-munich-olympics-massacre-wreath-laying#img-1

Theres no evidence there that he hates Jews

[bpoolrover]

There is evidence he lied about being part of it, unless there really boris Johnson’s hands on the wreath and it’s fake

[Filo]

There is evidence he lied about being part of it, unless there really boris Johnson’s hands on the wreath and it’s fake

You see if you read the story and look beyond the headline, it says he was at a wreath laying ceremony for 190 victims of an Isreali air strike, the fact that the terrists graves were nearby was just slipped into the story