Brutal

[drfchound]

How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..

Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.

Governments have reserve funds for unexpected costs. McDonnell has said that this will be the means of funding this. He said (rightly) that if the Govt had lost the court case on the WASPI funding, it would have had to find that money from reserves. he said (this is a political decision) that Labour would not have opposed the WASPI case, and would act as though the Govt HAD lost the case.

Meantime, I see Dominic Raab's Foreign Office is claiming legal costs against the parents of Harry Dunn.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-crash-death-parents-of-teenager-livid-at-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-for-pursuing-a4292266.html

I know that governments have to has reserve funds for emergencies BST but the WASPI court case was before Labour drew up their manifesto so they knew about it.
So, they drew up and allegedly costed everything.
The day after they then threw this thing about WASPi into the pot.
Why wasn't it included in their manifesto.

ps. I saw the attempted deflection at the end of your post.

[Bentley Bullet]

How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..

Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.

Governments have reserve funds for unexpected costs. McDonnell has said that this will be the means of funding this. He said (rightly) that if the Govt had lost the court case on the WASPI funding, it would have had to find that money from reserves. he said (this is a political decision) that Labour would not have opposed the WASPI case, and would act as though the Govt HAD lost the case.

Meantime, I see Dominic Raab's Foreign Office is claiming legal costs against the parents of Harry Dunn.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-crash-death-parents-of-teenager-livid-at-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-for-pursuing-a4292266.html

But those funds are for unexpected costs. If Corbyn is going to use them for part of his manifesto they become part of the expected cost. What if then he needs unexpected funds for something unexpected?

You mean like extra money for the DUP or money for that fake shipping company, or the exercise for operation stack?

The DUP merger cost them £1 billion out of a pot of about £6 billion. That's a bit different to taking £57 billion out in stages of a £6 billion pot over 10 years. Corbyn will have just paid the WASPI funding off in time to introduce the four day week!

[Sprotyrover]

Ha ha just watched the Full interview,Jezza went down like the Belgrano.
Is he a Toryspy?

[jucyberry]

The question is simple.

When it comes down to it, if you believe piffle and vote for him...How will you look your children in the eyes if and when Corbyn is proved right.

Because  it seems to me that the extra frenzied attempts to discredit him by wheeling out the head Rabbi and piffle's friend really ramped up after the ITV interview . As soon as he produced the redacted document the smears went into overdrive.

Here's another thought... Is this government the most duplicitous, conniving and morally corrupt group we have seen in our life time....... Or are they the most god awful failures at hiding their nature?

[Bentley Bullet]

Corbyn's already proved himself wrong.

https://youtu.be/8EySXP15S8k

[Donnywolf]

Those of you sitting at the edge of your seats to see our PM being grilled by Andrew Neil may be disappointed. It seems he’s still not agreed a date with the BBC. Auntie Beeb kept that quiet! Only a cynic would think that our glorious leader saw Sturgeon and Corbyn go through the mill and he’s shit himself!

Worse than that. BBC told Corbyn that all Leaders would be on one by one - but Johnson wasnt playing ball and the BBC forgot to tell all the others that he had said he would not be doing it

So they went ahead anyway

I keep seeing Cummings wife is tied up with this somehow. Does she work for Neal

[Herbert Anchovy]

Ha ha just watched the Full interview,Jezza went down like the Belgrano.
Is he a Toryspy?

You do realise that your darling Boris still hasn’t committed to his interview don’t you? Have you ever thought to wonder why?

[Herbert Anchovy]

The question is simple.

When it comes down to it, if you believe piffle and vote for him...How will you look your children in the eyes if and when Corbyn is proved right.

Because  it seems to me that the extra frenzied attempts to discredit him by wheeling out the head Rabbi and piffle's friend really ramped up after the ITV interview . As soon as he produced the redacted document the smears went into overdrive.

Here's another thought... Is this government the most duplicitous, conniving and morally corrupt group we have seen in our life time....... Or are they the most god awful failures at hiding their nature?

The issue with your post is that Tory voters simply don’t care how morally corrupt their government is. They know they’re being lied to. They know the country is in a terrible state due to the Tory party. They know that Austerity is literally killing people....but because it’s not happening to them, they just don’t care!

 It’s the I’m alright jack syndrome. “ A family surviving on food bank handouts? Bah, they probably deserve it.”

Back in the 80’s there was a saying that nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.

[Sprotyrover]

The question is simple.

When it comes down to it, if you believe piffle and vote for him...How will you look your children in the eyes if and when Corbyn is proved right.

Because  it seems to me that the extra frenzied attempts to discredit him by wheeling out the head Rabbi and piffle's friend really ramped up after the ITV interview . As soon as he produced the redacted document the smears went into overdrive.

Here's another thought... Is this government the most duplicitous, conniving and morally corrupt group we have seen in our life time....... Or are they the most god awful failures at hiding their nature?

The issue with your post is that Tory voters simply don’t care how morally corrupt their government is. They know they’re being lied to. They know the country is in a terrible state due to the Tory party. They know that Austerity is literally killing people....but because it’s not happening to them, they just don’t care!

 It’s the I’m alright jack syndrome. “ A family surviving on food bank handouts? Bah, they probably deserve it.”

Back in the 80’s there was a saying that nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.

Who you quoting Herbert, Ann Scargill perchance?

[Sprotyrover]

'nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.'

Love it Herbert !

[Bentley Bullet]

Herbert. If you think you're right with that verdict, there's no scope for discussion with you. You are as wrong now as you were back in the eighties.

[Herbert Anchovy]

The question is simple.

When it comes down to it, if you believe piffle and vote for him...How will you look your children in the eyes if and when Corbyn is proved right.

Because  it seems to me that the extra frenzied attempts to discredit him by wheeling out the head Rabbi and piffle's friend really ramped up after the ITV interview . As soon as he produced the redacted document the smears went into overdrive.

Here's another thought... Is this government the most duplicitous, conniving and morally corrupt group we have seen in our life time....... Or are they the most god awful failures at hiding their nature?

The issue with your post is that Tory voters simply don’t care how morally corrupt their government is. They know they’re being lied to. They know the country is in a terrible state due to the Tory party. They know that Austerity is literally killing people....but because it’s not happening to them, they just don’t care!

 It’s the I’m alright jack syndrome. “ A family surviving on food bank handouts? Bah, they probably deserve it.”

Back in the 80’s there was a saying that nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.

Who you quoting Herbert, Ann Scargill perchance?

Not denying any of it though are you Sproty?

[Herbert Anchovy]

Herbert. If you think you're right with that verdict, there's no scope for discussion with you. You are as wrong now as you were back in the eighties.

Plenty of scope for discussion on my part BB but I base my views on what I see as I travel around the country. The policies of the Tory Government are having a direct, negative impact on the lives of many, many vulnerable people in the UK. If people genuinely did care about the suffering of these people how could they possibly continue to vote for the party that is directly causing this? You only need to look at some of the dismissive comments made on these pages about people who rely on food banks to realise that there’s an element of self satisfaction in play because they’re not in that situation.

I find it baffling that anyone who would claim to have a social conscience would vote for a party that’s created so much misery.

[Sprotyrover]

'nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.'

Come on Herbert who made the famous misquote! Dianne Abbot? King Arfur? Wolfe Smiff? Who perchance?

[Bentley Bullet]

At the end of the day, you are baffled by the majority. Have you ever thought of why that is?

[Herbert Anchovy]

'nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.'

Come on Herbert who made the famous misquote! Dianne Abbot? King Arfur? Wolfe Smiff? Who perchance?

And STILL not denying any of it Sproty!! Don’t tell me... someone was referring to you when the comment was made weren’t they!  Where were you in ‘84 Sproty? Waving wads of cash at striking miners from the window of your Ford Sierra??

[Bentley Bullet]

God, there's so much to say about the 84 miners strike that hasn't come out. Well, I'm not ready to say owt now, I've got too long to live (hopefully), but one day....

[Jonathan]

”Those who are panicking at the thought of Labour’s proposals may wish to ask themselves a question: why exactly does it seem obscene to take a little from those with so much, but natural to take so much from those with barely anything? In the end, what feels like class war to some is just equality to everyone else.“

[SydneyRover]

God, there's so much to say about the 84 miners strike that hasn't come out. Well, I'm not ready to say owt now, I've got too long to live (hopefully), but one day....

Maybe a royal commission would shine a light on it?

[SydneyRover]

”Those who are panicking at the thought of Labour’s proposals may wish to ask themselves a question: why exactly does it seem obscene to take a little from those with so much, but natural to take so much from those with barely anything? In the end, what feels like class war to some is just equality to everyone else.“

Careful Jonathan that could well be construed as treason in these parts.

[drfchound]

”Those who are panicking at the thought of Labour’s proposals may wish to ask themselves a question: why exactly does it seem obscene to take a little from those with so much, but natural to take so much from those with barely anything? In the end, what feels like class war to some is just equality to everyone else.“

Careful Jonathan that could well be construed as treason in these parts.

Why would it matter to people in Australia.

[Bentley Bullet]

God, there's so much to say about the 84 miners strike that hasn't come out. Well, I'm not ready to say owt now, I've got too long to live (hopefully), but one day....

Maybe a royal commission would shine a light on it?

You'll just have to read my autobiography, owd lad.

[SydneyRover]

”Those who are panicking at the thought of Labour’s proposals may wish to ask themselves a question: why exactly does it seem obscene to take a little from those with so much, but natural to take so much from those with barely anything? In the end, what feels like class war to some is just equality to everyone else.“

Careful Jonathan that could well be construed as treason in these parts.

Why would it matter to people in Australia.

I wondered when this card would be played from the bottom of the pack and who would play it?

[Bentley Bullet]

Sydney, haven't you noticed, we're all racist here?


Apart from the lefties among you, like!

[Bentley Bullet]

Anyway, forget my autobiography, have you seen this yet?

https://youtu.be/8EySXP15S8k

[DonnyOsmond]

Sorry, BB, etc... What's your thoughts on food banks? What's your thoughts on the homeless numbers spiraling over the last 9 years?

[bpoolrover]

Donny what have labour said in there manifesto that will help get rid of food banks?they have said they will be rid of them in 5 years or be rid of poverty 1 of the 2, but have not said how or how they will pay for it, instead of offering free broadband and free dentist checks and free university they should have said how they will tackle the problem instead of free giveaways which no one believes. Homeless is very hard to judge I live in a relatively small area and there are 9 homeless people all very nice but none want to be helped they have all been offered help and everyone has turned it down, speaking to friends who work for a charity that’s the same in a lot of places, unfortunately many are drug dependent and unless agree to get help they can’t be re housed, anyone that has not been offered help or is homelessness not through drugs of course should be helped as no one should be homeless

[SydneyRover]

Sydney, haven't you noticed, we're all racist here?


Apart from the lefties among you, like!

ok to play the man in your eyes? bb

[Bentley Bullet]

Sydney. I put up with a lot when it comes to understanding what the f**k you're on about, but in this case, I really don't understand. Go on then, enlighten me!

[SydneyRover]

Sydney, haven't you noticed, we're all racist here?


Apart from the lefties among you, like!

Directly when you've explained what this is all about?