Darren Moore

[Move DRFC]

Got ourselves a great manager but looking at his comments today looks like he's starting to become frustrated with whats going on behind the scenes. Fergie walked out, as did McCann, and if we're not careful so will Moore.

It's as clear as day now that what we were fed by Baldwin about top 6 being the target and having one of the best budgets in the league is total codswallop. 

We lost all our highest earners, got £2m for JM and got to the 5th round of the cup and Play Offs... where has that money gone??

We've signed conference quality players to replace Marquis and seem to only be interested in loan deals. Nothing wrong with loans but there is when it's seemingly the only type of signing we want to make.

Summer recruitment was bad enough, this month was the biggest transfer window I can remember (what a chance to go for promotion, poor league) and we're hearing from the manager that if we don't sign anyone he'll be frustrated, like it actually could happen!! Not to mention we've already lost 4 players! Absolutely unbelievable.

[Ldr]

Yawn

[silent majority]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

[the vicar]

For one we don't get the maquis money straight away it's on the never never

[Move DRFC]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

“ #drfc boss Darren Moore says he needs players, needs to strengthen this month; wouldn’t be happy with the depth of his squad if he ended January with only the players currently at his disposal.
@footballheaven”

When has he said anything like this before? Wouldn’t be happy if he ended Jan with what we’ve got now. As if it could happen and it’s out of his hands.

Haha did we not? What a surprise.

[silent majority]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

“ #drfc boss Darren Moore says he needs players, needs to strengthen this month; wouldn’t be happy with the depth of his squad if he ended January with only the players currently at his disposal.
@footballheaven”

When has he said anything like this before? Wouldn’t be happy if he ended Jan with what we’ve got now. As if it could happen and it’s out of his hands.

Haha did we not? What a surprise.

But nowhere does that say we've missed out on any targets. Where does he say it's out of his hands?

And DM is just generalising, of course he won't be happy, and neither will we, which is why it won't happen.

[godlike1]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

Sm I know your going to defend the club with all your might especially when thugs are not 100% factually correct or people are reading between the lines to try and assess what's going on.

The thing is that fans are getting really fed up with what is going on from a football side of things and that DM is being hung out to dry as he is the only one on the public side saying things.

It's not good enough in a nut shell, I get that the summer was knackered by mccann going but if our club was showing enough ambition, drive and determination and give him money to really push to go up do you not think he may well have stayed rather than jump at the first opportunity?

DM has basically come out and said that he needs a squad with more depth to get to the top 6. I will be very happy but currently amazed if we have signed anyone of any callibre on a permanent contract in this window.

I think fans have accepted that we have been doing a try before you buy with loans and that DM has had to use loans to get a half decent team. But it is not a long term sustainable strategy and there is signs that there is no strategy anymore at least above DM.

I felt for the players against Shrewsbury as you  can tell the frustration is building against the board from fans and I felt it resulted in a lack of patience with the team.

I'd just like some honesty,,..... Not spin, no its a top 6-8 budget bullshit just something such as, we see the summer as the time to buy the players permanently, we are focusing on getting contracts tied up with 16 existing players to prevent a continual summer of rebuilding again and so will give DM the money if the right man is there that he wants otherwise it will be loans to get us through the season.

It's not telling their rivals who we are going for but throwing us fans a bone. This lack of any information other than what DM can tell us is undermining all thengood work the board have done to build the rovers name.

If they won't be forthcoming then maybe it's time they realise they have failed in their attempts to make the club sustainable and successful at the same time and need to move aside

[Move DRFC]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

Sm I know your going to defend the club with all your might especially when thugs are not 100% factually correct or people are reading between the lines to try and assess what's going on.

The thing is that fans are getting really fed up with what is going on from a football side of things and that DM is being hung out to dry as he is the only one on the public side saying things.

It's not good enough in a nut shell, I get that the summer was knackered by mccann going but if our club was showing enough ambition, drive and determination and give him money to really push to go up do you not think he may well have stayed rather than jump at the first opportunity?

DM has basically come out and said that he needs a squad with more depth to get to the top 6. I will be very happy but currently amazed if we have signed anyone of any callibre on a permanent contract in this window.

I think fans have accepted that we have been doing a try before you buy with loans and that DM has had to use loans to get a half decent team. But it is not a long term sustainable strategy and there is signs that there is no strategy anymore at least above DM.

I felt for the players against Shrewsbury as you  can tell the frustration is building against the board from fans and I felt it resulted in a lack of patience with the team.

I'd just like some honesty,,..... Not spin, no its a top 6-8 budget bullshit just something such as, we see the summer as the time to buy the players permanently, we are focusing on getting contracts tied up with 16 existing players to prevent a continual summer of rebuilding again and so will give DM the money if the right man is there that he wants otherwise it will be loans to get us through the season.

It's not telling their rivals who we are going for but throwing us fans a bone. This lack of any information other than what DM can tell us is undermining all thengood work the board have done to build the rovers name.

If they won't be forthcoming then maybe it's time they realise they have failed in their attempts to make the club sustainable and successful at the same time and need to move aside

You’ve just nailed it there. Bang on.

[silent majority]

godlike,

That post of yours would need War and Peace from me to answer all the detail that you touch on, and to be fair it's been along day and I could do with putting my feet up!

But firstly, I only defend the club with all my might when I know there is something to defend. I'm probably their biggest critic and have been so for years, but I like to do my criticising behind closed doors and work on outcomes that are beneficial.

I get the frustration, I really do, but why would I defend in a situation like this? Because the 'reasons' posters are putting out what they consider is factual it simply isn't.

Do you not think that I ask the same questions as everyone else? Of course I do, but the responses I'm making are based on those discussions with the club, and not what some journalist from any media source has posted.

Honesty? I think the club have been honest, its just that whatever they say it will never be enough for some.

[selby]

  Move, who the bloody hell do you think our owners are going to stand aside for?

[Move DRFC]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

“ #drfc boss Darren Moore says he needs players, needs to strengthen this month; wouldn’t be happy with the depth of his squad if he ended January with only the players currently at his disposal.
@footballheaven”

When has he said anything like this before? Wouldn’t be happy if he ended Jan with what we’ve got now. As if it could happen and it’s out of his hands.

Haha did we not? What a surprise.

But nowhere does that say we've missed out on any targets. Where does he say it's out of his hands?

And DM is just generalising, of course he won't be happy, and neither will we, which is why it won't happen.

I didn’t say that what’s he said, but that’s what it sounds like to me. But if he’s saying that, it’s clearly insinuating it is a possibility, and he’s  just said he wouldn’t be happy if it did happen.

Gotta ask the questions why we’re missing out on players - Darren’s identified them, but the club seemingly can’t sign them as we’re not offering enough cash. It’s quite clear to see what’s going on

[Move DRFC]

  Move, who the bloody hell do you think our owners are going to stand aside for?

When did I say they should stand aside? I’m just saying what’s going on isn’t not good enough.

[silent majority]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

“ #drfc boss Darren Moore says he needs players, needs to strengthen this month; wouldn’t be happy with the depth of his squad if he ended January with only the players currently at his disposal.
@footballheaven”

When has he said anything like this before? Wouldn’t be happy if he ended Jan with what we’ve got now. As if it could happen and it’s out of his hands.

Haha did we not? What a surprise.

But nowhere does that say we've missed out on any targets. Where does he say it's out of his hands?

And DM is just generalising, of course he won't be happy, and neither will we, which is why it won't happen.

I didn’t say that what’s he said, but that’s what it sounds like to me. But if he’s saying that, it’s clearly insinuating it is a possibility, and he’s  just said he wouldn’t be happy if it did happen.

Gotta ask the questions why we’re missing out on players - Darren’s identified them, but the club seemingly can’t sign them as we’re not offering enough cash. It’s quite clear to see what’s going on

No you didn't, but that was the question I asked and you responded.

Yes by all means ask the question, but then don't dismiss the answer because it doesn't fit with your narrative.

[silent majority]

  Move, who the bloody hell do you think our owners are going to stand aside for?

When did I say they should stand aside? I’m just saying what’s going on isn’t not good enough.

No, it was godlike who suggested that.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

Sm I know your going to defend the club with all your might especially when thugs are not 100% factually correct or people are reading between the lines to try and assess what's going on.

The thing is that fans are getting really fed up with what is going on from a football side of things and that DM is being hung out to dry as he is the only one on the public side saying things.

It's not good enough in a nut shell, I get that the summer was knackered by mccann going but if our club was showing enough ambition, drive and determination and give him money to really push to go up do you not think he may well have stayed rather than jump at the first opportunity?

DM has basically come out and said that he needs a squad with more depth to get to the top 6. I will be very happy but currently amazed if we have signed anyone of any callibre on a permanent contract in this window.

I think fans have accepted that we have been doing a try before you buy with loans and that DM has had to use loans to get a half decent team. But it is not a long term sustainable strategy and there is signs that there is no strategy anymore at least above DM.

I felt for the players against Shrewsbury as you  can tell the frustration is building against the board from fans and I felt it resulted in a lack of patience with the team.

I'd just like some honesty,,..... Not spin, no its a top 6-8 budget bullshit just something such as, we see the summer as the time to buy the players permanently, we are focusing on getting contracts tied up with 16 existing players to prevent a continual summer of rebuilding again and so will give DM the money if the right man is there that he wants otherwise it will be loans to get us through the season.

It's not telling their rivals who we are going for but throwing us fans a bone. This lack of any information other than what DM can tell us is undermining all thengood work the board have done to build the rovers name.

If they won't be forthcoming then maybe it's time they realise they have failed in their attempts to make the club sustainable and successful at the same time and need to move aside

But you're getting frustrated with what you don't know and assuming things must be wrong behind the scenes and preemping possible consequences down the line. I don't feel there is any need for any of the owners to have to say anything. They don't say anything when we're doing well. So why should they assume they need to respond to a relatively small number of fans think there are problems. They just let DM get on with it.

[since-1969]

godlike,

That post of yours would need War and Peace from me to answer all the detail that you touch on, and to be fair it's been along day and I could do with putting my feet up!

But firstly, I only defend the club with all my might when I know there is something to defend. I'm probably their biggest critic and have been so for years, but I like to do my criticising behind closed doors and work on outcomes that are beneficial.

I get the frustration, I really do, but why would I defend in a situation like this? Because the 'reasons' posters are putting out what they consider is factual it simply isn't.

Do you not think that I ask the same questions as everyone else? Of course I do, but the responses I'm making are based on those discussions with the club, and not what some journalist from any media source has posted.

Honesty? I think the club have been honest, its just that whatever they say it will never be enough for some.

So if you are speaking to the club .
What is the fees the club got for Marquis .
/  Cup and Little Alfie May.

If we have a top 6 budget why do we need loans .

What was Darren Moore’s target was it to avoid relegation or get into the playoffs .

Does Darren Moore have a get out clause at the end of the season.

[IDM]

Sorry but the important questions now are about the transfer window.?

[pib]

DM has in fact said that we have missed out on some targets. The below is all from the DFP article, with direct quotes from DM....

Rovers have yet to make a signing this month and Moore says some targets have gone elsewhere - but he is not overly concerned with that.

“There’s one or two that we’ve missed out on for various reasons,” he said.

“It can be just the player choosing to go somewhere else or the advisor getting involved.”

[IDM]

DM has in fact said that we have missed out on some targets. The below is all from the DFP article, with direct quotes from DM....

Rovers have yet to make a signing this month and Moore says some targets have gone elsewhere - but he is not overly concerned with that.

“There’s one or two that we’ve missed out on for various reasons,” he said.

“It can be just the player choosing to go somewhere else or the advisor getting involved.”

Go listen to the interview as broadcast by radio Sheffield..

It looks like the DFP has misquoted DM.

[Retdon1]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

It was widely reported at the time the fee was close to £2 Million... saying “it was no where near “ are you allowed to expand on that ?

[pib]

DM has in fact said that we have missed out on some targets. The below is all from the DFP article, with direct quotes from DM....

Rovers have yet to make a signing this month and Moore says some targets have gone elsewhere - but he is not overly concerned with that.

“There’s one or two that we’ve missed out on for various reasons,” he said.

“It can be just the player choosing to go somewhere else or the advisor getting involved.”

Go listen to the interview as broadcast by radio Sheffield..

It looks like the DFP has misquoted DM.

I didn’t hear it IDM. Have the above words not come from DM’s mouth?

If not, I stand corrected.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

It was widely reported at the time the fee was close to £2 Million... saying “it was no where near “ are you allowed to expand on that ?

Was it 'widely reported' by DRFC? If not, its just guesses, nothing more.

[Colin C No.3]

  Move, who the bloody hell do you think our owners are going to stand aside for?

When did I say they should stand aside? I’m just saying what’s going on isn’t not good enough.

When godlike said the board should step aside in the final sentence of his rambling, you quoted him & said ‘Bang on’.

You ought to take more care who ‘you back’ if you’re going to deny agreeing with another compulsive moaner 4 posts down.

And when you say “...what’s going on isn’t good enough.” Are you referring to the £millions the board put into the running of the club year on year out of their own pockets?

Are you referring to the style of football you are being served up?

Are you referring to the fact that a win on Saturday would see us in the top six with games in hand on those teams around & above us?

Are you referring to the fact that despite the dearth of local derby games this season ticket sales are up on last season?

Are you of the same mind as the ‘conspiracy theorists’ on this forum that the last two managers left because of ‘the clubs (i.e boards) lack of (so called) ambition’?

If so, aren’t you somewhat amazed that this season Ben Whiteman has signed an extension to a contract that still had over a year to run on it?

If so, aren’t you surprised the club was able to attract a young manager who is clearly held in such high regard by those in his profession?

As has been said by those truly in the know, Darren Moore is his own man looking to bring players to the club he wants. Not who the board or the CEO want despite Gavin Baldwin’s assurances that the money is there, or are you calling GB a liar?

Stop reading between the lines & ‘following’ the doom mongering sheep that pervade the forum. If not you, like they, are going to look mighty foolish come the end of the season as I take delight in bringing your posts back to haunt you.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

DM has in fact said that we have missed out on some targets. The below is all from the DFP article, with direct quotes from DM....

Rovers have yet to make a signing this month and Moore says some targets have gone elsewhere - but he is not overly concerned with that.

“There’s one or two that we’ve missed out on for various reasons,” he said.

“It can be just the player choosing to go somewhere else or the advisor getting involved.”

Go listen to the interview as broadcast by radio Sheffield..

It looks like the DFP has misquoted DM.

I didn’t hear it IDM. Have the above words not come from DM’s mouth?

If not, I stand corrected.

I urge you to listen to Adam Oxley’s full interview. Forget what you’ve read for now. If Hoden is reporting something else, I’ve yet to hear or see it from DMs mouth.

[Move DRFC]

  Move, who the bloody hell do you think our owners are going to stand aside for?

I’m just saying what’s going on isn’t not good enough.

For you but there again it isn't your couple of million thats keeping the club afloat every season

That doesn’t mean they’re immune to criticism for the way we as a club are going about our player recruitment...

[DonnyOsmond]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

It was widely reported at the time the fee was close to £2 Million... saying “it was no where near “ are you allowed to expand on that ?

If the up front fee is nowhere near that but it reaches that then fair enough but if he just means we've got f all for Marquis then we've been robbed.

[silent majority]

Where has DM said any of this??

Quick correction as well, we didn't get £2m for Marquis. Nowhere near.

It was widely reported at the time the fee was close to £2 Million... saying “it was no where near “ are you allowed to expand on that ?

Widely reported by who? I don't believe the club have given that information to anybody, not even me! Lol.

[DonnyOsmond]

godlike,

That post of yours would need War and Peace from me to answer all the detail that you touch on, and to be fair it's been along day and I could do with putting my feet up!

But firstly, I only defend the club with all my might when I know there is something to defend. I'm probably their biggest critic and have been so for years, but I like to do my criticising behind closed doors and work on outcomes that are beneficial.

I get the frustration, I really do, but why would I defend in a situation like this? Because the 'reasons' posters are putting out what they consider is factual it simply isn't.

Do you not think that I ask the same questions as everyone else? Of course I do, but the responses I'm making are based on those discussions with the club, and not what some journalist from any media source has posted.

Honesty? I think the club have been honest, its just that whatever they say it will never be enough for some.

So if you are speaking to the club .
What is the fees the club got for Marquis .
/  Cup and Little Alfie May.

If we have a top 6 budget why do we need loans .

What was Darren Moore’s target was it to avoid relegation or get into the playoffs .

Does Darren Moore have a get out clause at the end of the season.

Having a top 6 budget doesn't mean loans won't improve your team. We wouldn't have got top 6 without loaning players like Kane.

[Move DRFC]

  Move, who the bloody hell do you think our owners are going to stand aside for?

When did I say they should stand aside? I’m just saying what’s going on isn’t not good enough.

When godlike said the board should step aside in the final sentence of his rambling, you quoted him & said ‘Bang on’.

You ought to take more care who ‘you back’ if you’re going to deny agreeing with another compulsive moaner 4 posts down.

And when you say “...what’s going on isn’t good enough.” Are you referring to the £millions the board put into the running of the club year on year out of their own pockets?

Are you referring to the style of football you are being served up?

Are you referring to the fact that a win on Saturday would see us in the top six with games in hand on those teams around & above us?

Are you referring to the fact that despite the dearth of local derby games this season ticket sales are up on last season?

Are you of the same mind as the ‘conspiracy theorists’ on this forum that the last two managers left because of ‘the clubs (i.e boards) lack of (so called) ambition’?

If so, aren’t you somewhat amazed that this season Ben Whiteman has signed an extension to a contract that still had over a year to run on it?

If so, aren’t you surprised the club was able to attract a young manager who is clearly held in such high regard by those in his profession?

As has been said by those truly in the know, Darren Moore is his own man looking to bring players to the club he wants. Not who the board or the CEO want despite Gavin Baldwin’s assurances that the money is there, or are you calling GB a liar?

Stop reading between the lines & ‘following’ the doom mongering sheep that pervade the forum. If not you, like they, are going to look mighty foolish come the end of the season as I take delight in bringing your posts back to haunt you.

Wow. People don’t take it well when the club gets criticised do they!

Godlike’s general summary was bang on, I’m not calling for the board to step aside, generally in most aspects they do us good (referring to the points you made). I’m critical of this shambolic recruitment process and not backing up statements we’ve heard of “top 6 is the aim” etc. If you make statements like that you back it up in the transfer markets.

Oh and in reference to the football, it’s great at the minute which is testament to DM, but also because we have 12/13 good players. Luckily at the moment they’re all fit - but we clearly need need more.

[silent majority]

  Move, who the bloody hell do you think our owners are going to stand aside for?

When did I say they should stand aside? I’m just saying what’s going on isn’t not good enough.

When godlike said the board should step aside in the final sentence of his rambling, you quoted him & said ‘Bang on’.

You ought to take more care who ‘you back’ if you’re going to deny agreeing with another compulsive moaner 4 posts down.

And when you say “...what’s going on isn’t good enough.” Are you referring to the £millions the board put into the running of the club year on year out of their own pockets?

Are you referring to the style of football you are being served up?

Are you referring to the fact that a win on Saturday would see us in the top six with games in hand on those teams around & above us?

Are you referring to the fact that despite the dearth of local derby games this season ticket sales are up on last season?

Are you of the same mind as the ‘conspiracy theorists’ on this forum that the last two managers left because of ‘the clubs (i.e boards) lack of (so called) ambition’?

If so, aren’t you somewhat amazed that this season Ben Whiteman has signed an extension to a contract that still had over a year to run on it?

If so, aren’t you surprised the club was able to attract a young manager who is clearly held in such high regard by those in his profession?

As has been said by those truly in the know, Darren Moore is his own man looking to bring players to the club he wants. Not who the board or the CEO want despite Gavin Baldwin’s assurances that the money is there, or are you calling GB a liar?

Stop reading between the lines & ‘following’ the doom mongering sheep that pervade the forum. If not you, like they, are going to look mighty foolish come the end of the season as I take delight in bringing your posts back to haunt you.

You just sound like bully hiding behind a forum where opinions are voiced without prejudice or spoken in a condescending manner !

And you don't??