Be careful what you wish for

[phil old leake]

I feel that a lot of people on here should start to engage their brains a bit more or they might regret the very business like board granting them their wish and selling up
God only knows what might happen then
Accept we are never going to win the champions league and be extremely grateful that the board run the club in a business like and sustainable way
Let’s not forget bury and Bolton

[dickos1]

Spending the money you’ve generated from releasing players and selling players isn’t going to make us go bankrupt.
And nobody is suggesting we should be winning the champions league.
Re-investment of funds and a competitive squad is all what’s needed

[drfchound]

There are very few posters in here who are suggesting that “we sack the board”.
It is just a few WUMs who no one really take seriously.

[no eyed deer]

Spending the money you’ve generated from releasing players and selling players isn’t going to make us go bankrupt.
And nobody is suggesting we should be winning the champions league.
Re-investment of funds and a competitive squad is all what’s needed

And transparency, I’ve supported this club long enough to now the bad times (40 years). People come on here and say The funds are there, the budget it top six, millions are pumped in every year. Destination championship. If there was real ambition  we would have brought the right players in by now, and no it doesn’t guarantee success, only ambition.

Also, I don’t want to put the future of the club in jeopardy. I just don’t get how the board put millions in, the cup run and Marquis money, yet still we fall sort in getting a quality 9.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Spending the money you’ve generated from releasing players and selling players isn’t going to make us go bankrupt.
And nobody is suggesting we should be winning the champions league.
Re-investment of funds and a competitive squad is all what’s needed

How much does Bramhall and the Watson family put into the club every year?

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Incidentally BST, have you seen Darren McAnthony responding to alot of criticism from Posh fans?

He says he has faith in the his manager and players. So much so, he's declared that if they don't make the top 6 he will stand down.

[Campsall rover]

Incidentally BST, have you seen Darren McAnthony responding to alot of criticism from Posh fans?

He says he has faith in the his manager and players. So much so, he's declared that if they don't make the top 6 he will stand down.

So he is going to sack himself this time instead of DF
Now there’s a novelty. Looking forward to that.

[selby]

   He has more faith in Fergie than me. It constantly amazes me that good sound business people can be so foolish about football. they go overboard when their workers ask for a few quid rise, and constantly throw thousands of pounds at football managers who waste it.

[dickos1]

Spending the money you’ve generated from releasing players and selling players isn’t going to make us go bankrupt.
And nobody is suggesting we should be winning the champions league.
Re-investment of funds and a competitive squad is all what’s needed

How much does Bramhall and the Watson family put into the club every year?

Between one and two million I believe.
So we have a top 6 budget.

If they didn’t put anything in we’d have a midtable budget.
We wouldn’t go bankrupt

[BillyStubbsTears]

Spending the money you’ve generated from releasing players and selling players isn’t going to make us go bankrupt.
And nobody is suggesting we should be winning the champions league.
Re-investment of funds and a competitive squad is all what’s needed

How much does Bramhall and the Watson family put into the club every year?

Between one and two million I believe.
So we have a top 6 budget.

If they didn’t put anything in we’d have a midtable budget.
We wouldn’t go bankrupt

I think you are missing the point somewhat.

[dickos1]

Well no.
If they stopped tomorrow we would be ok, we wouldn’t go bankrupt.

Nobody is suggesting they do anything different than what they’ve always done, the problem at the minute may not even be down to them.
But the point is we have recouped a lot of money these last couple of seasons by releasing a lot of players and selling our most valuable player but at the moment we haven’t used these funds.
Nobody is suggesting they should be splashing the cash

[Campsall rover]

Well no.
If they stopped tomorrow we would be ok, we wouldn’t go bankrupt.

Nobody is suggesting they do anything different than what they’ve always done, the problem at the minute may not even be down to them.
But the point is we have recouped a lot of money these last couple of seasons by releasing a lot of players and selling our most valuable player but at the moment we haven’t used these funds.
Nobody is suggesting they should be splashing the cash

Well if you want a top league 1 proven goal scorer on a permanent in January then we will need to splash the cash won’t we. Please tell me who is going to let their best players leave for very little when they are under contract in the middle of the season. No one is.
Why you and others don’t get that is totally beyond me. I must be thick or something.   

[dickos1]

You’re doing it again.
Arguing against stuff that nobody is saying.

[bobjimwilly]

If they stopped tomorrow we would be ok, we wouldn’t go bankrupt.

really? is that a fact?

[dickos1]

If they stopped putting the extra 1-2 million in.
Yeah it’s a fact.
We would then have a midtable budget

[IDM]

What is a mid-table budget.?

Is it a top 6 budget minus 1-2 million.?  Not having a go, but not necessarily following your logic.

[dickos1]

I’m just repeating what gavin said,
The owners don’t need to put this extra 2 million in a year but they want us to be competitive. If they stopped putting this extra in then we would have a lower midtable budget

[IDM]

Ok fair enough..

So it’s a given that with the owners support, we have a competitive budget.?

Even if DM wasn’t having difficulty spending it, it still doesn’t guarantee success - yet we still have fans deciding that we therefore mustn’t have got such, that the board is dishonest etc etc..

[lee.j09]

I don’t think we ask much as fans! Just some signings. Permanent ones. You know like every other 90 clubs in the football league do...

[IDM]

Here we go again round and round in circles..

Do you not think the club has been trying to sign players.?

[lee.j09]

Here we go again round and round in circles..

Do you not think the club has been trying to sign players.?

Permanent contracted players no I don’t think they are.

[lee.j09]

Ok fair enough..

So it’s a given that with the owners support, we have a competitive budget.?

Even if DM wasn’t having difficulty spending it, it still doesn’t guarantee success - yet we still have fans deciding that we therefore mustn’t have got such, that the board is dishonest etc etc..

The dishonesty comes from an interview with an ex manager.

Answer me this, why would Dickov go out of his way to make something as slanderous as what he said up?

[dickos1]

Ok fair enough..

So it’s a given that with the owners support, we have a competitive budget.?

Even if DM wasn’t having difficulty spending it, it still doesn’t guarantee success - yet we still have fans deciding that we therefore mustn’t have got such, that the board is dishonest etc etc..

I’ve always maintained we have money to spend, but something is stopping it being spent.

The chairman seems to be popping up more frequently in these discussions. And I know that under Ferguson they had many disagreements over player fergie wanted to sign

[since-1969]

Ok fair enough..

So it’s a given that with the owners support, we have a competitive budget.?

Even if DM wasn’t having difficulty spending it, it still doesn’t guarantee success - yet we still have fans deciding that we therefore mustn’t have got such, that the board is dishonest etc etc..

Yes some of us are Sceptical because it’s hard to see how much of over and above the boards support is accessible  for transfer / loans or does DM have to make on a case by case basis. In which case it’s easy to see why signings take forever to conclude if it has to set against what has already been made available.

[IDM]

Ok fair enough..

So it’s a given that with the owners support, we have a competitive budget.?

Even if DM wasn’t having difficulty spending it, it still doesn’t guarantee success - yet we still have fans deciding that we therefore mustn’t have got such, that the board is dishonest etc etc..

The dishonesty comes from an interview with an ex manager.

Answer me this, why would Dickov go out of his way to make something as slanderous as what he said up?

No idea but whatever may or may not have happened 5 years ago is no proof of anything going on now..

I assume you are not employed by the club therefore your thoughts on permanent signings are opinions only.?

[IDM]

Ok fair enough..

So it’s a given that with the owners support, we have a competitive budget.?

Even if DM wasn’t having difficulty spending it, it still doesn’t guarantee success - yet we still have fans deciding that we therefore mustn’t have got such, that the board is dishonest etc etc..

Yes some of us are Sceptical because it’s hard to see how much of over and above the boards support is accessible  for transfer / loans or does DM have to make on a case by case basis. In which case it’s easy to see why signings take forever to conclude if it has to set against what has already been made available.

All I can see there is assumptions.. not really sure what else you’re on about..

[Campsall rover]

Here we go again round and round in circles..

Do you not think the club has been trying to sign players.?

IDM we are banging our heads against a very thick wall.

Sometimes i really wonder why we get involved on here. The same none sense just keeps getting repeated over and over again.

Think for my own sanity i should just turn up home and away and support my team the way we are all supposed to do.

The forum has become a bit addictive and that’s not healthy. Far too many arguments on here and i get drawn far too easily into them when all i want to do is have a sensible discussion.
It’s very sad. I used to enjoy posting but it has now become toxic. Far too many people with their own poisonous agendas to be an enjoyable experience at the moment.

[drfchound]

Incidentally BST, have you seen Darren McAnthony responding to alot of criticism from Posh fans?

He says he has faith in the his manager and players. So much so, he's declared that if they don't make the top 6 he will stand down.

I wonder whether McAnthony has a queue of people wanting to buy him out.

Seriously though, he might step down as Chairman but he would install a puppet in his place and still continue to pull the strings.

[drfchound]

Here we go again round and round in circles..

Do you not think the club has been trying to sign players.?

IDM we are banging our heads against a very thick wall.

Sometimes i really wonder why we get involved on here. The same none sense just keeps getting repeated over and over again.

Think for my own sanity i should just turn up home and away and support my team the way we are all supposed to do.

The forum has become a bit addictive and that’s not healthy. Far too many arguments on here and i get drawn far too easily into them when all i want to do is have a sensible discussion.
It’s very sad. I used to enjoy posting but it has now become toxic. Far too many people with their own poisonous agendas to be an enjoyable experience at the moment.

Campsall, you take any post that you don’t like or disagree with as a personal insult.
Not everyone has those rose tinted specs and you have to accept that on any forum there are differences of opinion.
Not all the things that you disagree with are nonsense.
You don’t have a divine right to be right all of the time.
Chill out a bit. 👍

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well no.
If they stopped tomorrow we would be ok, we wouldn’t go bankrupt.

Nobody is suggesting they do anything different than what they’ve always done, the problem at the minute may not even be down to them.
But the point is we have recouped a lot of money these last couple of seasons by releasing a lot of players and selling our most valuable player but at the moment we haven’t used these funds.
Nobody is suggesting they should be splashing the cash

Well we're getting there in baby steps.

There are two points.

The first, (and it shouldn't really need to be pointed out, but there you go) is that the Board subsidise your and my hobby, to the tune of something like £15-20m over a decade.

We take that as a given.

And then we moan like entitled brats when they don't also spend the transfer money that we get.

The second point is that the long term aim is for us to be a successful AND self-financing club. That requires us to be able to be self-sufficient without the Board subsidies. Because they will not be there forever. So, if, in one season, we make a net profit of £1-2m, that SHOULD go to eliminating the Board's subsidy.

What you seem to be saying is that we should get that subsidy AND spend transfer income on top of that.