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IDM

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #30 on January 27, 2020, 07:16:58 pm by IDM »
Not sure why folks think we should get a big win..

I think we should win, but a big score isn’t a given..



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dickos1

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #31 on January 27, 2020, 07:22:00 pm by dickos1 »
In place of.?

Sadlier Cole ennis

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #32 on January 27, 2020, 07:23:39 pm by Donnybax »
Not sure why folks think we should get a big win..

I think we should win, but a big score isn’t a given..
I’m not saying we SHOULD get a big win. I’d take a 1-0 now if offered. I’ve just got a hunch

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #33 on January 27, 2020, 07:49:06 pm by selby »
  Dickos, what is the best position for Ennis in your opinion? We mulled the same subject over on the bus coming back from Sunderland,about six people.
 When I asked the question, the general consensus was, Good question nobody had a real opinion.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #34 on January 27, 2020, 07:51:28 pm by dickos1 »
I think he best position will be wide of a main striker or slightly deeper than the main striker.
Similar to wilks.
He’s strong, powerful and quick.

I’d play Cole up top with sadlier and ennis just off him, with Taylor coming off the bench when they’re tired

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #35 on January 27, 2020, 07:52:05 pm by Campsall rover »
Mine Brian would try Ennis in a wide left position.
Give Sadlier another game off. He has not been at his best in the last few weeks.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #36 on January 27, 2020, 07:54:12 pm by IDM »
In place of.?

Sadlier Cole ennis

That doesn’t answer the question, which players would drop out.?

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #37 on January 27, 2020, 07:55:20 pm by dickos1 »
Taylor and John

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #38 on January 27, 2020, 07:57:06 pm by dickos1 »
Mine Brian would try Ennis in a wide left position.
Give Sadlier another game off. He has not been at his best in the last few weeks.

Sadlier has been better than Taylor over the last few weeks and provides us with a greater goal threat

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #39 on January 27, 2020, 07:58:27 pm by IDM »
I would be quite surprised if Cole starts - but I can see John missing out.

I expect Copps to start so maybe Sadlier misses out too, unless DM swaps out Gomes, which would be harsh.?

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #40 on January 27, 2020, 08:37:59 pm by Jonathan »
Mine Brian would try Ennis in a wide left position.
Give Sadlier another game off. He has not been at his best in the last few weeks.

Sadlier has been better than Taylor over the last few weeks and provides us with a greater goal threat

Agreed. Taylor runs around a lot but his end product has to improve. He sees more of the ball than anyone else in the team and needs to start doing more with it.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #41 on January 27, 2020, 08:45:41 pm by selby »
Taylor is the only player we have that collects the ball, backs the last man  up, and goes past him, all the rest depend on the ball being passed behind the last man apart from Blair who also has the pace to get past a defender on the run, but is rarely played in a wide position for some reason.
  That is why of the players that can play wide Taylor would be my first pick as a wide player, and Sadlier on his game is a goal scorer both in the box and from distance.
    To me Dickos, Ennis has turning and acceleration over short distances, a great attribute, but over distance is not that quick, and if he gets starts now needs to get goals to keep his place, I would find it hard to change the team that started at Sunderland myself, in the first half, against one of the divisions better teams we played very very well, and they deserve to keep the shirt for me because of their form, and competition for a start is what we want.
  I prefer James to John at full back, and would start Coppinger instead of Gomes normally, just my own preference, but would keep the same team to start this game, they deserve it in my opinion, and will have to play well to keep it, or those left out show in training they deserve a start.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #42 on January 27, 2020, 08:50:53 pm by dickos1 »
We did play well in that first half but never looked like scoring.
Bringing sadlier and Cole in woukd make us much more threatening.
The line up at Sunderland was solid and defensive, we don’t need that set up to play against the worst side in the league at home.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #43 on January 27, 2020, 08:54:58 pm by Jonathan »
I do think Taylor has been a good signing and his pace gives us another dimension. I just get frustrated that he sees so much of the ball and wish he’d get his head up and notice those around him.

I’m not sure about Ennis in another role. I’ve never seen him play in another position and I haven’t really seen the guile to convince me he could create from there. But he’s been a great number 9 for us and I really like him in that role. Every now and again he looks knackered like the pressure on him is taking its toll. I’m glad we’ve brought in some help and Cole should take some of the weight off his shoulders.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #44 on January 27, 2020, 08:56:39 pm by drfchound »
I reckon DM will start with Ennis up top but will probably get Cole onto the pitch part way through the second half.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #45 on January 27, 2020, 08:58:16 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
I like the sound of Ennis Sadlier and cole up front it’s got pace and ability for sure. Not sure if it’s good to bring Cole straight in to start after playing well at Sunderland albeit from a more defensive point of view.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #46 on January 27, 2020, 09:01:12 pm by IDM »
I reckon DM will start with Ennis up top but will probably get Cole onto the pitch part way through the second half.

I would agree - perhaps with John making way for Copps..

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #47 on January 27, 2020, 09:02:14 pm by selby »
  I agree Hound, if the game goes well.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #48 on January 27, 2020, 10:35:35 pm by steve@dcfd »
I don’t believe Cole will start.
Gomes had his best game playing in Copps position, not wide left.
So it’s a choice of Sadlier coming in for James, you lose out on work rate and overall game but he may score. If he’s fit enough to play..
So does James go back to left back in place of John I’m not sure.

For me John goes to bench and James goes to left back.
Sadlier comes in for James.
Copps remains on the bench.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #49 on January 27, 2020, 10:44:49 pm by Paul Simpson »
Taylor is class. I would always start him. He’s a playmaker and his pace when he uses it is phenomenal!! We are very lucky to have him imo

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #50 on January 27, 2020, 10:49:11 pm by bpoolrover »
Taylor has to start for me against Sunderland yes he was wasteful but half time there was no one in the area to cross to

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #51 on January 27, 2020, 10:50:43 pm by the vicar »
Not sure why folks think we should get a big win..

I think we should win, but a big score isn’t a given..
I remember in the 70s we played Bury at away in the cup and beat them 6-0, we played Bury the week after in the league and lost 6-0

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #52 on January 27, 2020, 11:18:53 pm by Jonathan »
So it’s a choice of Sadlier coming in for James, you lose out on work rate and overall game but he may score.

Lose out on work rate and overall game? Give over. How about we actually play down the left a bit. I’d like to see a bit more variety in our attacking game. So many times we go down the right and end up in blind alleys.

Gomes could consider himself unfortunate to miss out, but I’d bring Coppinger back in for a home game that we need to play on the front foot. And find a way of getting Coppinger and Sadlier on the bell facing the opposition goal. We have some great attacking players but need to use them all effectively.

Would be good to see Cole introduced at some point. Happy with the signing, frustrated that it’s only short term. 
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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #53 on January 27, 2020, 11:27:55 pm by Campsall rover »
So it’s a choice of Sadlier coming in for James, you lose out on work rate and overall game but he may score.

Lose out on work rate and overall game? Give over. How about we actually play down the left a bit. I’d like to see a bit more variety in our attacking game. So many times we go down the right and end up in blind alleys.

Gomes could consider himself unfortunate to miss out, but I’d bring Coppinger back in for a home game that we need to play on the front foot. And find a way of getting Coppinger and Sadlier on the bell facing the opposition goal. We have some great attacking players but need to use them all effectively.

Would be good to see Cole introduced at some point. Happy with the signing, frustrated that it’s only short term.
Yes short term because it’s up to him to prove himself. Is that not a good thing?
If he had been given a 3 yr contract and showed a bad attitude or turned out to be a dud in the goal scoring dept what would the reaction on here be? I think we know the answer to that one.
If he does well between now and May he will get an extended contract. That sounds like very sensible football & business sense to me.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #54 on January 27, 2020, 11:37:02 pm by Jonathan »
So it’s a choice of Sadlier coming in for James, you lose out on work rate and overall game but he may score.

Lose out on work rate and overall game? Give over. How about we actually play down the left a bit. I’d like to see a bit more variety in our attacking game. So many times we go down the right and end up in blind alleys.

Gomes could consider himself unfortunate to miss out, but I’d bring Coppinger back in for a home game that we need to play on the front foot. And find a way of getting Coppinger and Sadlier on the bell facing the opposition goal. We have some great attacking players but need to use them all effectively.

Would be good to see Cole introduced at some point. Happy with the signing, frustrated that it’s only short term.
Yes short term because it’s up to him to prove himself. Is that not a good thing?
If he had been given a 3 yr contract and showed a bad attitude or turned out to be a dud in the goal scoring dept what would the reaction on here be? I think we know the answer to that one.
If he does well between now and May he will get an extended contract. That sounds like very sensible football & business sense to me.

It depends if he gets that extended contract here or elsewhere. We have left ourselves wide open if we get him up to speed and he does well.

In an ideal world, yes, he’ll prove himself and we will make him a contract offer and he will agree it. If that happens, you’ll get no argument from me that it turned out to be good business.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #55 on January 27, 2020, 11:39:07 pm by NewDonny »
So it’s a choice of Sadlier coming in for James, you lose out on work rate and overall game but he may score.

Lose out on work rate and overall game? Give over. How about we actually play down the left a bit. I’d like to see a bit more variety in our attacking game. So many times we go down the right and end up in blind alleys.

Gomes could consider himself unfortunate to miss out, but I’d bring Coppinger back in for a home game that we need to play on the front foot. And find a way of getting Coppinger and Sadlier on the bell facing the opposition goal. We have some great attacking players but need to use them all effectively.

Would be good to see Cole introduced at some point. Happy with the signing, frustrated that it’s only short term.
Yes short term because it’s up to him to prove himself. Is that not a good thing?
If he had been given a 3 yr contract and showed a bad attitude or turned out to be a dud in the goal scoring dept what would the reaction on here be? I think we know the answer to that one.
If he does well between now and May he will get an extended contract. That sounds like very sensible football & business sense to me.

That argument works both ways Campsall tbh. Come the end of the season he may well have proved himself and been a great success and suddenly have a number of other clubs sniffing around him and DRFC lose him. Just putting another view on this that's all.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #56 on January 27, 2020, 11:47:32 pm by steve@dcfd »
So it’s a choice of Sadlier coming in for James, you lose out on work rate and overall game but he may score.

Lose out on work rate and overall game? Give over. How about we actually play down the left a bit. I’d like to see a bit more variety in our attacking game. So many times we go down the right and end up in blind alleys.

Gomes could consider himself unfortunate to miss out, but I’d bring Coppinger back in for a home game that we need to play on the front foot. And find a way of getting Coppinger and Sadlier on the bell facing the opposition goal. We have some great attacking players but need to use them all effectively.

Would be good to see Cole introduced at some point. Happy with the signing, frustrated that it’s only short term.
Yes short term because it’s up to him to prove himself. Is that not a good thing?
If he had been given a 3 yr contract and showed a bad attitude or turned out to be a dud in the goal scoring dept what would the reaction on here be? I think we know the answer to that one.
If he does well between now and May he will get an extended contract. That sounds like very sensible football & business sense to me.

That argument works both ways Campsall tbh. Come the end of the season he may well have proved himself and been a great success and suddenly have a number of other clubs sniffing around him and DRFC lose him. Just putting another view on this that's all.

You are right, same as Sadlier does not agree his contract and walks away at the end f the season. Our medium and long term strategy will have to start in the summer to sign and keep players on competitive wages and contracts if we are going to show progression and also keep the manager.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #57 on January 27, 2020, 11:52:26 pm by Campsall rover »
So it’s a choice of Sadlier coming in for James, you lose out on work rate and overall game but he may score.

Lose out on work rate and overall game? Give over. How about we actually play down the left a bit. I’d like to see a bit more variety in our attacking game. So many times we go down the right and end up in blind alleys.

Gomes could consider himself unfortunate to miss out, but I’d bring Coppinger back in for a home game that we need to play on the front foot. And find a way of getting Coppinger and Sadlier on the bell facing the opposition goal. We have some great attacking players but need to use them all effectively.

Would be good to see Cole introduced at some point. Happy with the signing, frustrated that it’s only short term.
Yes short term because it’s up to him to prove himself. Is that not a good thing?
If he had been given a 3 yr contract and showed a bad attitude or turned out to be a dud in the goal scoring dept what would the reaction on here be? I think we know the answer to that one.
If he does well between now and May he will get an extended contract. That sounds like very sensible football & business sense to me.

That argument works both ways Campsall tbh. Come the end of the season he may well have proved himself and been a great success and suddenly have a number of other clubs sniffing around him and DRFC lose him. Just putting another view on this that's all.
Well thats true of course. But there will be a sound reason for not giving him a longer contract now.
He may get offered a better contract in a matter of weeks of course. If he doesn’t take it then bully for him.
In the summer there will be many players out of contract. We want players who want to come to us and that’s what is important. Character is just as important as ability. One without the other is a waste of time.
I have full trust in DM’s knowledge, man management and decision making.
No one will get it right every time but as long as more is right than wrong then we will be fine.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2020, 11:54:38 pm by Campsall rover »

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #58 on January 27, 2020, 11:53:45 pm by Campsall rover »
So it’s a choice of Sadlier coming in for James, you lose out on work rate and overall game but he may score.

Lose out on work rate and overall game? Give over. How about we actually play down the left a bit. I’d like to see a bit more variety in our attacking game. So many times we go down the right and end up in blind alleys.

Gomes could consider himself unfortunate to miss out, but I’d bring Coppinger back in for a home game that we need to play on the front foot. And find a way of getting Coppinger and Sadlier on the bell facing the opposition goal. We have some great attacking players but need to use them all effectively.

Would be good to see Cole introduced at some point. Happy with the signing, frustrated that it’s only short term.
Yes short term because it’s up to him to prove himself. Is that not a good thing?
If he had been given a 3 yr contract and showed a bad attitude or turned out to be a dud in the goal scoring dept what would the reaction on here be? I think we know the answer to that one.
If he does well between now and May he will get an extended contract. That sounds like very sensible football & business sense to me.

That argument works both ways Campsall tbh. Come the end of the season he may well have proved himself and been a great success and suddenly have a number of other clubs sniffing around him and DRFC lose him. Just putting another view on this that's all.

You are right, same as Sadlier does not agree his contract and walks away at the end f the season. Our medium and long term strategy will have to start in the summer to sign and keep players on competitive wages and contracts if we are going to show progression and also keep the manager.
Our salaries will be very competitive for this league.

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Re: Let's talk about the Southend game
« Reply #59 on January 28, 2020, 12:01:01 am by steve@dcfd »
So it’s a choice of Sadlier coming in for James, you lose out on work rate and overall game but he may score.

Lose out on work rate and overall game? Give over. How about we actually play down the left a bit. I’d like to see a bit more variety in our attacking game. So many times we go down the right and end up in blind alleys.

Gomes could consider himself unfortunate to miss out, but I’d bring Coppinger back in for a home game that we need to play on the front foot. And find a way of getting Coppinger and Sadlier on the bell facing the opposition goal. We have some great attacking players but need to use them all effectively.

Would be good to see Cole introduced at some point. Happy with the signing, frustrated that it’s only short term.
Yes short term because it’s up to him to prove himself. Is that not a good thing?
If he had been given a 3 yr contract and showed a bad attitude or turned out to be a dud in the goal scoring dept what would the reaction on here be? I think we know the answer to that one.
If he does well between now and May he will get an extended contract. That sounds like very sensible football & business sense to me.

That argument works both ways Campsall tbh. Come the end of the season he may well have proved himself and been a great success and suddenly have a number of other clubs sniffing around him and DRFC lose him. Just putting another view on this that's all.

You are right, same as Sadlier does not agree his contract and walks away at the end f the season. Our medium and long term strategy will have to start in the summer to sign and keep players on competitive wages and contracts if we are going to show progression and also keep the manager.
Our salaries will be very competitive for this league.
We will see in the summer.

 

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