From the bbc website

[IDM]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-52697977

Headline:

“ Brexit: Michael Gove urges EU to show 'flexibility'”

Within the text:

“ The UK has said it will not extend the negotiation process beyond 31 December, despite calls for the government to allow more time for a deal to be reached due to the coronavirus pandemic.”

Surely, if we are to complete the arrangements by the end of 2020, then both sides need to be flexible to a degree, in order to reach a deal.?

[SydneyRover]

To be fair the EU has been telling the UK what the rules are from day one.

[Glyn_Wigley]

How about the government practising what it preaches and showing some flexibility regarding an end date?

[Glyn_Wigley]

To be fair the EU has been telling the UK what the rules are from day one.

But they're the experts on the EU regulations so you don't listen to them.

[Donnywolf]

How about the government practising what it preaches and showing some flexibility regarding an end date?

Yeah till the 12th of never would work for me... or... The first day any single Govt spokesperson isn't proved to be lying

Actually the 12th of never may come soonest

[SydneyRover]

Breaking News: The government are reportedly going to follow Germany's example and start a Blunders League 

[selby]

Because of the med countries mountain of debt they have more in it now than we have spread across more countries although the northern countries will have to take the brunt of it if they are willing to do so so not surprised Germany and Holland are breaking ranks.
 In the Eu referendum despite the combined forces of the Government, most of parliament and the press and despite outspending the leave campaign by a massive margin, and flying over the President of the USA to tell us what a bad idea it was, the stay in movement managed to lose the vote.
  When May was in charge she was undermined by every opposition party and some of her own party, since then we have been much better and Corona virus has done the government a massive favour giving them the perfect cover that they can say no deal came about because of the virus.
  The more people say BoJo is under pressure the less he has to lose by calling their bluff, and does not need parliamentary consent for anything.
  The ball is not in our court at the moment and Germany are starting to think that quantitative easing to spread the debt is likely to become permanent, and with the Euro bond issues that they say is against their laws bringing a clash with European law brings Germany's acceptance of their tax payers bailing out other countries on a semi permanent basis into play.
  The best of luck to Brussels with that. 

[IDM]

“ Corona virus has done the government a massive favour giving them the perfect cover that they can say no deal came about because of the virus.”

That is b*llocks, sorry.

If they can’t negotiate properly due to dealing with coronavirus then they either need to be more flexible with what they want to achieve, or ask for an extension.

If we crash out with no deal because of coronavirus then there is no excuse whatsoever for not asking for an extension.

[ravenrover]

How about the government practising what it preaches and showing some flexibility regarding an end date?

Yeah till the 12th of never would work for me... or... The first day any single Govt spokesperson isn't proved to be lying

Actually the 12th of never may come soonest

And that's a long long time

[selby]

  IDM, the boat has sailed buddy, any notion of getting back in with the same terms has gone, the main reason the EU would want us back in now would be to chip in lot's more than we paid before mainly to keep the southern states Italy,Spain, Greece, and to some extent France living in the luxury they are accustomed to.
  Germany are not going to keep Italy afloat when their individual wealth index is above their own but their country Italy is destitute.
  It is dawning on the Germans and the other northern states that becoming a federal entity is the politicians end game, and that they will have to pick up the bill.

[IDM]

Er, Selby, no one said anything about getting back in.

The thread is about flexibility on negotiations to achieve a deal, or the lack of such.

Please point me to where I said we should go back in.?

[wilts rover]

It's as Keir Starmer said in the clip from LBC I posted the other day. That's it Brexit is done. We are out.

Now 'all' that is left to do is agree the terms for a new relationship. Will we have a new deal by 31 December? Or will it be No Deal & WTO rules on 1st January?

Again as Starmer said, Boris told the country he could get a new deal by 31st January. What possible reason could there be not to believe him...

[Not Now Kato]

  It is dawning on the Germans and the other northern states that becoming a federal entity is the politicians end game, and that they will have to pick up the bill.

And you know this how?  Oh, I remember, you read it in the Daily Mail   

[Glyn_Wigley]

“ Corona virus has done the government a massive favour giving them the perfect cover that they can say no deal came about because of the virus.”

That is b*llocks, sorry.

If they can’t negotiate properly due to dealing with coronavirus then they either need to be more flexible with what they want to achieve, or ask for an extension.

If we crash out with no deal because of coronavirus then there is no excuse whatsoever for not asking for an extension.

If even selby knows it's a cover then the rest of the population should have no problem seeing straight through it as well.

[SydneyRover]

Because of the med countries mountain of debt they have more in it now than we have spread across more countries although the northern countries will have to take the brunt of it if they are willing to do so so not surprised Germany and Holland are breaking ranks.
 In the Eu referendum despite the combined forces of the Government, most of parliament and the press and despite outspending the leave campaign by a massive margin, and flying over the President of the USA to tell us what a bad idea it was, the stay in movement managed to lose the vote.
  When May was in charge she was undermined by every opposition party and some of her own party, since then we have been much better and Corona virus has done the government a massive favour giving them the perfect cover that they can say no deal came about because of the virus.
  The more people say BoJo is under pressure the less he has to lose by calling their bluff, and does not need parliamentary consent for anything.
  The ball is not in our court at the moment and Germany are starting to think that quantitative easing to spread the debt is likely to become permanent, and with the Euro bond issues that they say is against their laws bringing a clash with European law brings Germany's acceptance of their tax payers bailing out other countries on a semi permanent basis into play.
  The best of luck to Brussels with that.

Typical poison from you selby hoping that the EU becomes a failed state and how come you're such an expert on johnson now? everyone said he'd be a f**king disaster, he has lived down to everyone's expectations and those that got him over the line the aged, the poor, the males are paying with their lives.