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Do you mean a handful of trouble makers hiding within a genuine protest on police racist murder.?
Quote from: IDM on June 04, 2020, 12:42:30 pmDo you mean a handful of trouble makers hiding within a genuine protest on police racist murder.?Do you mean alleged murder? How do we know he didn't have any other condition which brought on the death of the wanted man?Why are they protesting here when it happened in America? It's just a load of band wagon jumping trouble causers out for a tear up and a new pair of trainers. All this knee bending makes me sick.
Were the lockdown measures the same at the time of Cummings (who had a hand in creating them) breaking them as they are now?
Quote from: Axholme Lion on June 04, 2020, 01:18:45 pmQuote from: IDM on June 04, 2020, 12:42:30 pmDo you mean a handful of trouble makers hiding within a genuine protest on police racist murder.?Do you mean alleged murder? How do we know he didn't have any other condition which brought on the death of the wanted man?Why are they protesting here when it happened in America? It's just a load of band wagon jumping trouble causers out for a tear up and a new pair of trainers. All this knee bending makes me sick. Go find me an approved restraint technique which promotes kneeling on someone’s neck.He was filmed doing this.Whether the victim did or did not have an underlying medical condition is irrelevant. The officer has been charged with murder.People are angry about this as this sort of action should have been stamped out after the 1960s.It doesn’t excuse rioting and looting, but that is an unwanted side effect of such protests. The protests themselves are valid.Do you think such a killing shouldn’t be highlighted.?
Quote from: Mike_F on June 04, 2020, 12:14:54 pmWere the lockdown measures the same at the time of Cummings (who had a hand in creating them) breaking them as they are now?what about corbyn mike did he have a hand in it to by not social distancing and putting lives at risk, Cummings might have been wrong and a liar but at least he kept his distance
Quote from: Axholme Lion on June 04, 2020, 01:18:45 pmQuote from: IDM on June 04, 2020, 12:42:30 pmDo you mean a handful of trouble makers hiding within a genuine protest on police racist murder.?Do you mean alleged murder? How do we know he didn't have any other condition which brought on the death of the wanted man?Why are they protesting here when it happened in America? It's just a load of band wagon jumping trouble causers out for a tear up and a new pair of trainers. All this knee bending makes me sick.Would you apply the same blasé attitude if a white, South London, English Millwall fan had committed a minor offence and then lost his life during his arrest by the police?
Not being funny because someone does something wrong it does not excuse anyone else’s behaviour, I get that people might get angry about Cummings what I don’t get if your angry about Cummings how your not furious about the lack of social distancing and the amount of lives at risk because of these protests, that’s what makes me think it’s just political scoring rather than anger
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 04, 2020, 01:23:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on June 04, 2020, 01:18:45 pmQuote from: IDM on June 04, 2020, 12:42:30 pmDo you mean a handful of trouble makers hiding within a genuine protest on police racist murder.?Do you mean alleged murder? How do we know he didn't have any other condition which brought on the death of the wanted man?Why are they protesting here when it happened in America? It's just a load of band wagon jumping trouble causers out for a tear up and a new pair of trainers. All this knee bending makes me sick.Would you apply the same blasé attitude if a white, South London, English Millwall fan had committed a minor offence and then lost his life during his arrest by the police? What like this one for starters?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Ian_TomlinsonIt has happened before in the past as well, but because he wasn't from a group within the left wing agenda no one gave a monkeys.
Quote from: bpoolrover on June 04, 2020, 01:39:23 pmNot being funny because someone does something wrong it does not excuse anyone else’s behaviour, I get that people might get angry about Cummings what I don’t get if your angry about Cummings how your not furious about the lack of social distancing and the amount of lives at risk because of these protests, that’s what makes me think it’s just political scoring rather than angerIf it's not political why aren't people taking to the streets to protest about Chinese brutality in Hong Kong? It's because it's the trendy, 'right on' thing to bash Trump.
Bst your right on how terrible he and many other blacks have been treated/are being treated but that does not mean they can put innocent peoples lives at risk
No not at all it’s disgusting what happened, but that’s not the point is it? Either protest and social distance or wait to have a protest, why should other people be put in danger from the protesters? There are 180 ish pages on how shot the goverment have done and how things are opening to early and risking another spike! Well this is risking another spike do you not think?
Quote from: Axholme Lion on June 04, 2020, 01:18:45 pmQuote from: IDM on June 04, 2020, 12:42:30 pmDo you mean a handful of trouble makers hiding within a genuine protest on police racist murder.?Do you mean alleged murder? How do we know he didn't have any other condition which brought on the death of the wanted man?Why are they protesting here when it happened in America? It's just a load of band wagon jumping trouble causers out for a tear up and a new pair of trainers. All this knee bending makes me sick. Go on. Get it all out. All that constipated bile. The protests are because this is one of THE great historical injustices still being played out in front of our eyes after all these centuries. The murder (and it WAS a murder) is a symbol of that. A white man in a position of authority treating a black man as a sub-human over whom he could demonstrate his power.Floyd was handcuffed and face down on the floor. Full-weight kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes resulting in his death is murder. Full stop.And that is symbolic of the sort of oppression that black Americans and (to a lesser extent, black British) put up with every day of their lives. And sometimes, an event like this causes the bottled up resentment to explode.Just like your bottled up bile has just exploded all over this thread.When it comes down to it, you either care about what white Europeans and Americans have done to people of African origin over the past 500 years or you don't. Those who do have a responsibility to show which side they are one. It's clear that you don't.
How anyone can compare the two situations is a joke. One family in a car against thousands of anarchists looking for trouble.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 04, 2020, 01:56:39 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on June 04, 2020, 01:18:45 pmQuote from: IDM on June 04, 2020, 12:42:30 pmDo you mean a handful of trouble makers hiding within a genuine protest on police racist murder.?Do you mean alleged murder? How do we know he didn't have any other condition which brought on the death of the wanted man?Why are they protesting here when it happened in America? It's just a load of band wagon jumping trouble causers out for a tear up and a new pair of trainers. All this knee bending makes me sick. Go on. Get it all out. All that constipated bile. The protests are because this is one of THE great historical injustices still being played out in front of our eyes after all these centuries. The murder (and it WAS a murder) is a symbol of that. A white man in a position of authority treating a black man as a sub-human over whom he could demonstrate his power.Floyd was handcuffed and face down on the floor. Full-weight kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes resulting in his death is murder. Full stop.And that is symbolic of the sort of oppression that black Americans and (to a lesser extent, black British) put up with every day of their lives. And sometimes, an event like this causes the bottled up resentment to explode.Just like your bottled up bile has just exploded all over this thread.When it comes down to it, you either care about what white Europeans and Americans have done to people of African origin over the past 500 years or you don't. Those who do have a responsibility to show which side they are one. It's clear that you don't.I don't have a guilt complex because i'm white and British. All sorts of stuff happened through history by all different nations, but it's gone and people need to get over it. It's like Sniverpool fans bleating on about Hillsborough while at the same time brushing Heysel under the carpet.Who do you think supplied the slave trade?https://www.thoughtco.com/african-slave-traders-44538
Quote from: Axholme Lion on June 04, 2020, 12:27:15 pmHow anyone can compare the two situations is a joke. One family in a car against thousands of anarchists looking for trouble.Jesus Christ, you're comparing the two in your own OP!!