Priti Patel

[drfchound]

Anyone who is selling drugs illegally is scum, and it’s a shame more of them can’t be locked away or deported.
To suggest that the people bst was defending  were in prison or subject to deportation “for as little as drug dealing” is ridiculous.
The harm that they do to people is shocking.
I wonder what the others on the deportation list “only” did.
Robbery, rape, attempted murder?
Ah well, nothing too serious I suppose.

[Bentley Bullet]

Aaaannnddd there you go again BB.


The point is (and I understand that you will refuse to engage with this because you've dug yourself in) that Gove has never once faced criminal prosecution for ADMITTING Class A drug possession and use. He's on video accepting that his crime could have left him facing a 7 year stretch. But he's never been prosecuted. Instead he was promoted to Justice Secretary.

I dare say many people have dabbled in drugs when they were youngsters but quickly realised their stupidity and grew up to be decent human beings doing responsible jobs in senior positions in many industries as well as politics. Should all of those who were willing to admit it lose their jobs or is it only Tory politicians who should?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Anyone who is selling drugs illegally is scum, and it’s a shame more of them can’t be locked away or deported.
To suggest that the people bst was defending  were in prison or subject to deportation “for as little as drug dealing” is ridiculous.
The harm that they do to people is shocking.
I wonder what the others on the deportation list “only” did.
Robbery, rape, attempted murder?
Ah well, nothing too serious I suppose.

One of the ones previously deported lived in England since he was 2 and served 7 months for selling cannabis when he was 19. Dominic Raab has admitted using dope. I wonder if it dawns on him where that came from. Maybe he ordered it off Amazon.

See me. I reckon if an adult comes to the UK and commits a serious crime, we are well within our rights to deport them after they have served their sentence. If someone has been brought up here and they commit a crime, bang them up by all means. But you don't then have the right to subject them to a double penalty by retrospective action years later where you drag them away from their families and shuffle them off to a foreign country. They are our responsibility. They became criminals in Britain.

And you certainly don't do that if your standard is that the very politicians who implement these laws admit imprisonable crimes and don't even get their wrists slapped.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Isn't it law that they have to deported after a 1 year plus sentence?

[Bentley Bullet]

Possession and dealing are completely different.

[BillyStubbsTears]

But anyway, back to the original point before the Moral Majority waded in. The ones who are so keen to see the law upheld.

The point was that 83 of the 90 who Patel wanted to deport this week would have been deported in contravention of the very law she is supposed to be implenting. That shows a degree of incompetence or maybe spiteful disregard that is just beyond belief.

Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it doesn't matter if you are arrested without warning years after your original crime and illegally booted out of the country. Judging by the responses in here, most folk don't seem to give a f**k about the actual due process of law.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Possession and dealing are completely different.

Yes. The possession crime that Gove admitted to could have landed him with a 7 year sentence. The lad I referred to got a 15 month sentence for dealing dope and served 7 months.

One gets deported to a country he hasn't seen since he was just out of nappies. The other gets a Cabinet post.

[Bentley Bullet]

He was lucky he wasn't in a country that stipulates the death sentence for drug trafficking, or life in prison.

[drfchound]

Odd really though that someone who buys drugs for his own use and therefore is putting only his own life at risk is somehow deemed to be more of the devil than the bas**rds who sell drugs to kids and potentially kill them or ruin their lives forever.
Not many people backing bst up on this point.

[normal rules]

Pretty Patel is a babe !

Yeah; I've still not been able to play out my fantasy of her thrashing the f*ck out of me.

The problem is she's too expensive, which is why BB is still trying to organise a whip-round for me.

I’m liking the pun, intentional or not

[BillyStubbsTears]

BB
That's the law. Do you want to uphold the law or not?

On a practical level, how many drug dealers do you think there would be if there were no drug users?

[Bentley Bullet]

What? You are well and truly scraping the bottom of the barrel in this humiliating defeat, aren't you!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Apologies BB. I meant Hound.

You all look the same when you get in these lop-sided arguments of yours. Easy mistake to make.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Defeat is it? Odd that, cos I haven't seen any of your hive mind even address the core point I was making in the OP.

[Bentley Bullet]

BST, you accuse others of lop-sided arguments but the truth is the only people who agree with you are those who are equally as hate-filled as you.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

But anyway, back to the original point before the Moral Majority waded in. The ones who are so keen to see the law upheld.

The point was that 83 of the 90 who Patel wanted to deport this week would have been deported in contravention of the very law she is supposed to be implenting. That shows a degree of incompetence or maybe spiteful disregard that is just beyond belief.

Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it doesn't matter if you are arrested without warning years after your original crime and illegally booted out of the country. Judging by the responses in here, most folk don't seem to give a f**k about the actual due process of law.

I can't understand though if they have a legal.right to remain why did it take so long literally until they were about to be flown out for the legal aspects to move?

I do agree if the government don't understand these laws then something is very wrong. It will be interesting to see the final outcome.

[belton rover]

Apologies BB. I meant Hound.

You all look the same when you get in these lop-sided arguments of yours. Easy mistake to make.

Apologies…you all look the same. An outrageous metaphor.

[BillyStubbsTears]

But anyway, back to the original point before the Moral Majority waded in. The ones who are so keen to see the law upheld.

The point was that 83 of the 90 who Patel wanted to deport this week would have been deported in contravention of the very law she is supposed to be implenting. That shows a degree of incompetence or maybe spiteful disregard that is just beyond belief.

Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it doesn't matter if you are arrested without warning years after your original crime and illegally booted out of the country. Judging by the responses in here, most folk don't seem to give a f**k about the actual due process of law.

I can't understand though if they have a legal.right to remain why did it take so long literally until they were about to be flown out for the legal aspects to move?

I do agree if the government don't understand these laws then something is very wrong. It will be interesting to see the final outcome.

Because the decisions are being rammed through, and the cases are being defended pro bono in the solicitors' spare time.

[drfchound]

BB
That's the law. Do you want to uphold the law or not?

On a practical level, how many drug dealers do you think there would be if there were no drug users?

And why do you think there are so many drug users then.

[belton rover]

This really is the most astonishing defence of the absolutely indefensible.

[drfchound]

She's been at it again.

Authorised 90 people who are established UK based and who have served a 1 year or more prison sentence to be deported to Jamaica on Tuesday. All of them had completed their sentence. Some for crimes as minor as drug dealing (remember Michael Gove has admitted being a coke user but apparently that doesn't result in a prison sentence for him - just the people he buys it off). Some have lived in Britain since they were kids and have no base in Jamaica. One in his late 60s is thought to have dementia.

What Patel sneeringly calls "activist lawyers" worked pro bono on this last week. They found that in 83 of the 90 cases, the deportations were legally flawed. The plane finally took off with 7 on board. Without this action, Patel was prepared to illegally deport 83 people.

That from an immigrant herself who by any rational assessment, broke the law with big flashing lights on, when she secretly visited Israel, having undocumented foreign policy discussions.

She's a psychopath. This is the country you are living in.

“Some for crimes as minor as drug dealing”.
There it is bst, as clear as day.
I can’t understand why you have lied about this on the climate crisis thread.

[SydneyRover]

Surely the state has to take some responsibility for allowing kids to grow up where illegal drugs are freely accessible, the police have failed miserably in their joint (ahem) effort in the war against drugs along with customs. As we know there are racist elements within all sectors of the community especially the police therefore if you are black there is more chance 9x of getting stopped and searched in the first place.

[wilts rover]

If Labour were in power and there were hundreds of daily illegal arrivals and the police (recently critisised for corruption in a report on a murdered pi) had just given a shotgun licence to an unhinged murderer, would people be defending the Home Secretary!

I notice that it was briefed yesterday Johnson was going to make her Security Miniter, then told overnight by MI5 he couldn't because she was a secuity risk (which is why May sacked her).

Clown car government

[Ldr]

If Labour were in power and there were hundreds of daily illegal arrivals and the police (recently critisised for corruption in a report on a murdered pi) had just given a shotgun licence to an unhinged murderer, would people be defending the Home Secretary!

I notice that it was briefed yesterday Johnson was going to make her Security Miniter, then told overnight by MI5 he couldn't because she was a secuity risk (which is why May sacked her).

Clown car government

Couldn’t agree more Wilts, this lot need shooting. Am really wishing these days there was a credible alternative at the time of the last election. It’s looking more and more like a long term disaster for all

[BillyStubbsTears]

Priti Patel.

We can't accommodate 20,000 Afghan refugees in one go.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1427876388476964867

I bet Priti Patel is REALLY pleased that Priti Patel wasn't the Home Secretary in 1972, when Priti Patel's family were among 28,000 Ugandan Indians who were welcomed to Britain over a few months, despite far-right politicians saying we couldn't accommodate them.

[belton rover]

Priti Patel.

We can't accommodate 20,000 Afghan refugees in one go.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1427876388476964867

I bet Priti Patel is REALLY pleased that Priti Patel wasn't the Home Secretary in 1972, when Priti Patel's family were among 28,000 Ugandan Indians who were welcomed to Britain over a few months, despite far-right politicians saying we couldn't accommodate them.

Billy. There is nothing wrong with anything Patel says in that interview. Of course structures have to be in place for such a mammoth task.

Your comments, however, are pathetic.

A pathetic attempt to provide further ‘proof’ in your pathetic mission to feed and dictate to others your personal hatred of those in government.

[sha66y]

Damn!
I thought I’d wandered onto the Pretty Patel sheer babydoll website……

[scawsby steve]

I've said all I'm going to say about Priti Patel; and I've got the lash marks to prove it.

In my dreams anyway.

[Janso]

Damn!
I thought I’d wandered onto the Pretty Patel sheer babydoll website……

Not proud to say I googled this.