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sha66y

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Re: JCH
« Reply #60 on August 27, 2020, 07:25:42 pm by sha66y »
I want Dickos to be our Manager so we can see exactly what needs to be done in practice rather than theoretically....

These Covidian groundhog days are what I dream about...

Dickos ! Nearly everyone agrees with your points, but agreeing or disagreeing is a bit pointless as we have absolutely zero influence over current and future events...

Sit back and enjoy what our Management team serve up, it’ll be a much better experience for you if you accept that this is the way our club currently operates, and it’s actually quite exciting seeing new faces wearing our colours...



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the vicar

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« Reply #61 on August 27, 2020, 07:33:33 pm by the vicar »
He has signed for them £1.25mill what a joke

drfchound

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« Reply #62 on August 27, 2020, 07:37:36 pm by drfchound »
They might be the ones laughing mate if he has another good season.

DearneValleyRover

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« Reply #63 on August 27, 2020, 07:47:05 pm by DearneValleyRover »
How are Peterborough paying his wages given the salary cap? He will be on more than £5k a week, how does that fit the salary cap?

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« Reply #64 on August 27, 2020, 08:02:54 pm by IDM »
If he’s on that much then some of his team mates will be on peanuts..  he would have had to have joined a while ago for his higher salary only to have counted as the average level.

IDM

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« Reply #65 on August 27, 2020, 08:04:28 pm by IDM »
I’ve no qualms at all with Moore, but he’s hardly been given the best chance to be successful has he.
Sold his best striker days before the season started, he’s had no money to spend on transfer fees to replace his best striker.
The wage bill on contracted players is significantly less than previous managers have had.
Moore has done well considering what he’s had at his disposal but just imagine where he could take us if he’s given the funds to build his own squad

Apart from the current season having a salary cap, are you privy to the clubs wage bill.?

silent majority

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« Reply #66 on August 27, 2020, 08:15:57 pm by silent majority »
Its just ridiculous to suggest that we have slashed the wage bill, no truth in that whatsoever. DM can have what he wants, he's been told that, but the choices to delay are his.

And for the poor start to last season then there are two people to point the finger at, one is Grant McCann, obviously, the other is JM, who led the club a merry dance.

drfchound

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« Reply #67 on August 27, 2020, 08:26:55 pm by drfchound »
SM, did we have a poor start to last season?
One defeat in the first nine league matches.

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« Reply #68 on August 27, 2020, 08:29:27 pm by Campsall rover »
Its just ridiculous to suggest that we have slashed the wage bill, no truth in that whatsoever. DM can have what he wants, he's been told that, but the choices to delay are his.

And for the poor start to last season then there are two people to point the finger at, one is Grant McCann, obviously, the other is JM, who led the club a merry dance.
We didn’t have a poor start last season.
4 wins 4 draws & 1 defeat in first 9 games.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2020, 08:35:18 pm by Campsall rover »

DearneValleyRover

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« Reply #69 on August 27, 2020, 08:55:52 pm by DearneValleyRover »
If he’s on that much then some of his team mates will be on peanuts..  he would have had to have joined a while ago for his higher salary only to have counted as the average level.

He was on £5k a week at BR and apparently he’s on more at Peterborough, all subjective and assumptions from fans of both clubs.

EasyforDennis

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« Reply #70 on August 27, 2020, 09:18:50 pm by EasyforDennis »
If he’s on that much then some of his team mates will be on peanuts..  he would have had to have joined a while ago for his higher salary only to have counted as the average level.

He was on £5k a week at BR and apparently he’s on more at Peterborough, all subjective and assumptions from fans of both clubs.

Ha ha. So basically you haven't got a clue then?

eadiee73

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« Reply #71 on August 27, 2020, 09:35:00 pm by eadiee73 »
As you can imagine our forum is divided over JCH going. We’ve had an offer of a new contract on the table for a few months now making him the best paid player for us, ever. He hasn’t signed it. For me if he doesn’t want to play for us I’m happy for him to go, so long as we get a fee for what he’s worth. We think it’s £1.25m, McAnthony says it’s a bit less. JCH is good, but needs a direct, long ball approach more than a pass and move system which our manager wants to play. JCH also loves to moan and have a go at his own players, not a team player imo. So overall a decent player but not as good as he thinks and if he’s plays 35 games this season I’ll be surprised. And we got a decent fee.
The downside is we’ve got no recognised goalscorers and we’re about to start serious football! Only at BRFC!

Up the Rovers!

idler

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« Reply #72 on August 27, 2020, 09:53:13 pm by idler »
You wouldn't imagine that he'd move on a two year deal for less money after the best season that he's had?

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« Reply #73 on August 27, 2020, 09:57:37 pm by dickos1 »
I’ve no qualms at all with Moore, but he’s hardly been given the best chance to be successful has he.
Sold his best striker days before the season started, he’s had no money to spend on transfer fees to replace his best striker.
The wage bill on contracted players is significantly less than previous managers have had.
Moore has done well considering what he’s had at his disposal but just imagine where he could take us if he’s given the funds to build his own squad

Apart from the current season having a salary cap, are you privy to the clubs wage bill.?
Look at the contracted players we had two seasons ago, and compare to today’s contracted players.
Don’t need to be privy to anything to know the wage bill on contracted players is a lot less now

DearneValleyRover

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« Reply #74 on August 27, 2020, 10:09:57 pm by DearneValleyRover »
If he’s on that much then some of his team mates will be on peanuts..  he would have had to have joined a while ago for his higher salary only to have counted as the average level.

He was on £5k a week at BR and apparently he’s on more at Peterborough, all subjective and assumptions from fans of both clubs.

Ha ha. So basically you haven't got a clue then?

I’ve more clue than you but hey that wouldn’t be hard would it, the talk from people more in the know than you and I is he’s on 7k

EasyforDennis

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« Reply #75 on August 28, 2020, 06:32:51 am by EasyforDennis »
If he’s on that much then some of his team mates will be on peanuts..  he would have had to have joined a while ago for his higher salary only to have counted as the average level.

He was on £5k a week at BR and apparently he’s on more at Peterborough, all subjective and assumptions from fans of both clubs.

Ha ha. So basically you haven't got a clue then?

I’ve more clue than you but hey that wouldn’t be hard would it, the talk from people more in the know than you and I is he’s on 7k

So your post based on assumptions from "fans" of both clubs and the "talk" from those "people in the know" just goes to prove you really haven't got a clue what he is on, have you?

Filo

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« Reply #76 on August 28, 2020, 08:00:24 am by Filo »
Why has this been made a sticky?

DearneValleyRover

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« Reply #77 on August 28, 2020, 08:08:44 am by DearneValleyRover »
If he’s on that much then some of his team mates will be on peanuts..  he would have had to have joined a while ago for his higher salary only to have counted as the average level.

He was on £5k a week at BR and apparently he’s on more at Peterborough, all subjective and assumptions from fans of both clubs.

Ha ha. So basically you haven't got a clue then?

I’ve more clue than you but hey that wouldn’t be hard would it, the talk from people more in the know than you and I is he’s on 7k

So your post based on assumptions from "fans" of both clubs and the "talk" from those "people in the know" just goes to prove you really haven't got a clue what he is on, have you?

My post is no different from any other but thanks for choosing mine to have a go at

GazLaz

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« Reply #78 on August 28, 2020, 08:49:18 am by GazLaz »
I’d be surprised if he’s on 7k a week. L1 footballers don’t earn as much as you think.

RoversAlias

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« Reply #79 on August 28, 2020, 09:21:29 am by RoversAlias »
Why has this been made a sticky?

I'm presuming someone meant to pin the new PvO thread and clicked the wrong thread.

idler

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« Reply #80 on August 28, 2020, 09:23:31 am by idler »
Eoin Doyle was on that at Bradford City which is why he ended up on loan at Swindon with City stilling paying over half of his wage.
James Vaughan was also on decent money there.

silent majority

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« Reply #81 on August 28, 2020, 09:26:56 am by silent majority »
SM, did we have a poor start to last season?
One defeat in the first nine league matches.

I was referring to the transfer market and our perceived failure to attract the type of player we needed. That was the gist of Dickos's post, that we had slashed the wage bill and now can't attract the type of player who could be considered as quality. It was a clear reference to our activity level and not our playing level.
 

 

silent majority

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« Reply #82 on August 28, 2020, 09:29:39 am by silent majority »
I’ve no qualms at all with Moore, but he’s hardly been given the best chance to be successful has he.
Sold his best striker days before the season started, he’s had no money to spend on transfer fees to replace his best striker.
The wage bill on contracted players is significantly less than previous managers have had.
Moore has done well considering what he’s had at his disposal but just imagine where he could take us if he’s given the funds to build his own squad

Apart from the current season having a salary cap, are you privy to the clubs wage bill.?
Look at the contracted players we had two seasons ago, and compare to today’s contracted players.
Don’t need to be privy to anything to know the wage bill on contracted players is a lot less now

Your doing that 'thing' again where you take your biased opinion of a player and relate that to reflect what you consider is a players salary level. No logic to that at all.


eadiee73

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« Reply #83 on August 28, 2020, 09:32:44 am by eadiee73 »
No real idea how much he was on with us. There’s always lots of rumours. But Kyle Bennett is said to be our top earner at £4K a week. Now that is stealing a living, we can’t shift him and he’s not in the managers plans. One of Darren Clarke’s more ridiculous poor decisions before he left. If JCH was on that he would have been earning it. We’ve all thought he was on less but as with all footballers wages no one really knows.

Up the Rovers!

GazLaz

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« Reply #84 on August 28, 2020, 09:32:47 am by GazLaz »
I’ve no qualms at all with Moore, but he’s hardly been given the best chance to be successful has he.
Sold his best striker days before the season started, he’s had no money to spend on transfer fees to replace his best striker.
The wage bill on contracted players is significantly less than previous managers have had.
Moore has done well considering what he’s had at his disposal but just imagine where he could take us if he’s given the funds to build his own squad

Apart from the current season having a salary cap, are you privy to the clubs wage bill.?
Look at the contracted players we had two seasons ago, and compare to today’s contracted players.
Don’t need to be privy to anything to know the wage bill on contracted players is a lot less now

Your doing that 'thing' again where you take your biased opinion of a player and relate that to reflect what you consider is a players salary level. No logic to that at all.



Ok Martin, could you tell us what the wage bill was when we got promoted under SoD and under Saunders, compared to now?

big fat yorkshire pudding

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« Reply #85 on August 28, 2020, 09:56:59 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
I’d be surprised if he’s on 7k a week. L1 footballers don’t earn as much as you think.

Bear in mind Peterborough will use some of the fee they're expecting for the guy they're selling. They're not really investing a high % of their sales in fees, hence they likely may be able to pay decent wages.

silent majority

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« Reply #86 on August 28, 2020, 10:08:52 am by silent majority »
I’ve no qualms at all with Moore, but he’s hardly been given the best chance to be successful has he.
Sold his best striker days before the season started, he’s had no money to spend on transfer fees to replace his best striker.
The wage bill on contracted players is significantly less than previous managers have had.
Moore has done well considering what he’s had at his disposal but just imagine where he could take us if he’s given the funds to build his own squad

Apart from the current season having a salary cap, are you privy to the clubs wage bill.?
Look at the contracted players we had two seasons ago, and compare to today’s contracted players.
Don’t need to be privy to anything to know the wage bill on contracted players is a lot less now

Your doing that 'thing' again where you take your biased opinion of a player and relate that to reflect what you consider is a players salary level. No logic to that at all.



Ok Martin, could you tell us what the wage bill was when we got promoted under SoD and under Saunders, compared to now?

Who mentioned SoD and Saunders? He said two seasons ago.

Chris Black come back

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« Reply #87 on August 28, 2020, 10:11:17 am by Chris Black come back »
I’ve no qualms at all with Moore, but he’s hardly been given the best chance to be successful has he.
Sold his best striker days before the season started, he’s had no money to spend on transfer fees to replace his best striker.
The wage bill on contracted players is significantly less than previous managers have had.
Moore has done well considering what he’s had at his disposal but just imagine where he could take us if he’s given the funds to build his own squad

Apart from the current season having a salary cap, are you privy to the clubs wage bill.?
Look at the contracted players we had two seasons ago, and compare to today’s contracted players.
Don’t need to be privy to anything to know the wage bill on contracted players is a lot less now

Your doing that 'thing' again where you take your biased opinion of a player and relate that to reflect what you consider is a players salary level. No logic to that at all.



Ok Martin, could you tell us what the wage bill was when we got promoted under SoD and under Saunders, compared to now?

To be fair, there have been several managers since those two - and the SOD promotion was 12 seasons ago. I don’t think either of those two promotions could in any way be described as financially prudent given the multimillion pound black hole they delivered. We are now down to one guy filling this and he might rightly expect not to keep delivering £2-3million each season on his own.

It could of course be reasonable to think the wage bill has gone down in recent seasons. But without access to that information, it is entirely a suspicion and supposition rather than an objective fact. Like those bores in pubs talking about immigrants taking jobs.

drfchound

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« Reply #88 on August 28, 2020, 10:19:02 am by drfchound »
SM, did we have a poor start to last season?
One defeat in the first nine league matches.

I was referring to the transfer market and our perceived failure to attract the type of player we needed. That was the gist of Dickos's post, that we had slashed the wage bill and now can't attract the type of player who could be considered as quality. It was a clear reference to our activity level and not our playing level.






Well I accept what you are now saying but it wasn’t clear to me, or Campsall evidently for that matter, that you weren’t talking about the start of season results.

GazLaz

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« Reply #89 on August 28, 2020, 10:21:11 am by GazLaz »
I’ve no qualms at all with Moore, but he’s hardly been given the best chance to be successful has he.
Sold his best striker days before the season started, he’s had no money to spend on transfer fees to replace his best striker.
The wage bill on contracted players is significantly less than previous managers have had.
Moore has done well considering what he’s had at his disposal but just imagine where he could take us if he’s given the funds to build his own squad

Apart from the current season having a salary cap, are you privy to the clubs wage bill.?
Look at the contracted players we had two seasons ago, and compare to today’s contracted players.
Don’t need to be privy to anything to know the wage bill on contracted players is a lot less now

Your doing that 'thing' again where you take your biased opinion of a player and relate that to reflect what you consider is a players salary level. No logic to that at all.



Ok Martin, could you tell us what the wage bill was when we got promoted under SoD and under Saunders, compared to now?

Who mentioned SoD and Saunders? He said two seasons ago.

I mentioned them. Just wanted to gauge direction of travel over a longer period of time.

 

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