Congratulations Jeremy

[selby]

  Reinstated back into the fold, let battle begin.

[Campsall rover]

  Reinstated back into the fold, let battle begin.

Has Starmer lost the plot.

Corbyn still has not said sorry yet. Not actually said the word or even said he could have done more.

Think this is really bad for a resurgence of the Labour Party.
What on earth is Starmer thinking doing this. It is madness imo.

The press will have a field day.

[belton rover]

It’s good to know that at least one of our two major political parties are not complete laughing stocks.

[tyke1962]

  Reinstated back into the fold, let battle begin.

They'll be no battle Selby , the party is back in Centre control , the Centre have the control in NEC and the polls are favourable .

Starmer's already shown he won't tolerate any nonsense in the party .

A sniff of power tends to put bonfires out in the Labour Party .

Saying that it will be interesting to see how Labour go with the Brexit situation about to come to a head .

Going to have to come out to play on this one Starmer , the former Red Wall will of course be paying keen attention .

[scawsby steve]

  Reinstated back into the fold, let battle begin.

They'll be no battle Selby , the party is back in Centre control , the Centre have the control in NEC and the polls are favourable .

Starmer's already shown he won't tolerate any nonsense in the party .

A sniff of power tends to put bonfires out in the Labour Party .

Saying that it will be interesting to see how Labour go with the Brexit situation about to come to a head .

Going to have to come out to play on this one Starmer , the former Red Wall will of course be paying keen attention .

I think you're being overly optimistic Tyke. Jon Craig of Sky News, a very neutral and independent reporter, has just said that civil war is about to break out in the Labour Party.

[drfchound]

Not much interest in this thread ?

[IDM]

Maybe folks are waiting to see the outcome.?

[drfchound]

That could be years though mate.

[selby]

  The Labour Party as we used to know it in this area has not got years Hound.

[Metalmicky]

Not much interest in this thread ?

Wrong agenda for most...

[Donnywolf]

 

  Reinstated back into the fold, let battle begin.

Has Starmer lost the plot.

Corbyn still has not said sorry yet. Not actually said the word or even said he could have done more.

Think this is really bad for a resurgence of the Labour Party.
What on earth is Starmer thinking doing this. It is madness imo.

The press will have a field day.

As far as I know CR it isnt SKS who has done anything

My immediate reaction is what is Starmer doing but as it turned out some Panel consisting of NEC Members did the jusging and they recommended reinstatement - so SKS hasnt done anything

Difficult though because now he has another decision to make

[ChrisBx]

This will prove absolutely disastrous for Labour.

[Donnywolf]

I was going to agree but maybe the time to sort this issue and "fallout" from it and any voter negatives would be now when we are years from the next GE

Also I can remember the Candidates for the Prime Ministers job (when Johnson won) all committed to launch an Islamaphobia enquiry as that had apparanlty "dogged" their Party - and yet I have not seen any follow up. It may have been missed by me due to the pandemic or B****t but surely that too would be disastrous for them if that came out when they were actually in power

There is no difference imo in Anti Semitism and Islamaphobia - they are both plain wrong and I think the only difference is the Media "outed" Corbyn and dug and dug into this story and managed to make it a "mess" for Labour in the eyes of the public (and I do AGREE it is an issue that is repulsive)

That same media has not been as fastidious (or even bothered) in digging and digging into the allegations (because that is all we can say it is until we have evidence via investigation) of Ismamaphobia. True the current PM has used phrases on Camera and elsewhere that will be well known to Forum users but we the public should know whether or not it is a Party wide thing

At that point I would have said if it was proven true it would be absolutely disastrous for a "sitting Government" but I dont think it would be.

[SydneyRover]

Have any members of the conservative party ever been known to hold racist views wolfie 

[selby]

  Antisemitism is more deeply rooted in the Labour Party than anyone will admit.
 Driven by local membership in predominately Muslim membership in the big urban areas who dominate local councils  in those areas mostly in the large cities and are drawn to the Labour party because of their historical stance on benefits for large unemployed families. and because of their herd like voting powers can gain traction in local councils and committees.
 Nobody publicises the fact that they have now become a big power faction within the party, but have become at the same time a big reason for the desertion of labours traditional supporters in the North of England some who share the constituencies they are most prevalent in, hence the now clear difference in the results of local elections and national elections in some of those areas.
  A case could be made out for Labour to be the most racial political party in Britain, not only are they antisemitic but are in some cases anti white British
 At least these discussions have given the party  the option of burying the news about Lord Ahmed of Rotherham.

[Bentley Bullet]

If the Tory party was a house in the TV programme "Homes Under The Hammer", they'd renovate it. If it was a Labour party house they'd demolish it and start again.

[SydneyRover]

you did vote labour selby during that period you used to tell us about it.

[Hounslowrover]

Selby do you have any ethnic breakdown of councillors in the Uk, or just England? And if so, can you provide it?

[IDM]

Selby, care to offer any proof behind your opinions.?

Also, SKS has said today that Corbyn is not returning as an MP.

Corbyn will be forgotten by the next GE, Johnson’s circus clown antics won’t.

Apologies to any circus performers offended by the comparison to our current PM.

[selby]

  There you go, I knew it would get it going with the heads in sand and arses up brigade.

[IDM]

If the Tory party was a house in the TV programme "Homes Under The Hammer", they'd renovate it. If it was a Labour party house they'd demolish it and start again.

If the Tory party was a house there would be a blue plaque denoting that integrity used to live here, before the 21st century.

Don’t you think Starmer is rebuilding labour.?

[IDM]

  There you go, I knew it would get it going with the heads in sand and arses up brigade.

Care to engage in a sensible debate.?

No, thought not.

[selby]

  IDM, he may not be an MP under the Labour Party's banner but he will still be the MP for the constituency he was voted in to represent SKS as you refer to is not god.
  Being a good socialist I expect he will still want to draw his payments and pension rights until the last moment possible. Don't forget a good socialist is a good socialist until someone else's money runs out.

[IDM]

Corbyn has been outed publicly and denounced by Starmer.  What do you think he should do, chop his Jacobs off.?

Anyway, I expect that Starmer will without doubt clean up the Labour Party and will be a very credible choice as the next PM.

He has more integrity in his little finger than liar Johnson. 

Do you really think the voters will forget the fiasco of this government next time around.?

[Hounslowrover]

Selby, can you address the issue you started and provide figures for your statement?

[Filo]

Starmer has not restored the Whip to Corbyn, that kind of pisses on your bonfire Selby

[Glyn_Wigley]

  IDM, he may not be an MP under the Labour Party's banner but he will still be the MP for the constituency he was voted in to represent SKS as you refer to is not god.
  Being a good socialist I expect he will still want to draw his payments and pension rights until the last moment possible. Don't forget a good socialist is a good socialist until someone else's money runs out.

Corbyn was voted in to represent his constituents as all MPs are, nobody else.

[Axholme Lion]

Both the main parties are in my humble opinion are J Arthur. We need a new party to stand up for the rights of normal working people. Something not in the pay of big business or taken over by the PC cult.

[Donnywolf]

Agree 100% - plus a fairer Electoral system.

With the latter we MIGHT (no guarantees of course) get that fairer Party / Government or back to the Govt of the people by the people and for the people.

That ideal would do me just great as Party politics is s*****d over here now and forever possibly,

[Glyn_Wigley]

Selby, can you address the issue you started and provide figures for your statement?

Arseholes being WUMs don't do that kind of thing.