Promotion ! Who doesn’t want it ?

[sha66y]

A fare bit of promotion talk been happening of late, and bound to increase with every point gained...but does every single football fan in Doncaster actually want to see us promoted this season?

Perhaps a poll might sort out this problem

[RobTheRover]

League 1 is where life is hardest for football clubs. The revenue streams just aren't there, away fans don't travel in consistently high numbers (admittedly less of an issue this weird season), off pitch revenues fall significantly.

The championship, whilst having its own issues, particularly around inequality with parachute payments, etc, is a much better league for a club like us. 

My problem with the championship is that the last time we were there I found some of the teams we faced employed spoiling tactics too often which made for some boring games. Too many teams just desparate not to lose, maybe just stay tight and see if they can nick a goal, rather than looking to go all out to win.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Surely everyone wants promotion! I get it's always going to be a struggle for us in that division but the wins will just be more memorable considering how out gunned we are and how important each 3 points is come the end of the season.

[pib]

League 1 is where life is hardest for football clubs. The revenue streams just aren't there, away fans don't travel in consistently high numbers (admittedly less of an issue this weird season), off pitch revenues fall significantly.

The championship, whilst having its own issues, particularly around inequality with parachute payments, etc, is a much better league for a club like us. 

My problem with the championship is that the last time we were there I found some of the teams we faced employed spoiling tactics too often which made for some boring games. Too many teams just desparate not to lose, maybe just stay tight and see if they can nick a goal, rather than looking to go all out to win.

Agreed, but I think we'd be mad to not want to get there.

I think we all want to see Rovers grow the fanbase long-term. I think a run of years where we are in the Championship, or even yo-yoing between the Champ and L1 would surely create some buzz and excitement around the place and complement the work going on in the community to expand the fanbase, and make us a bigger and stronger club as a whole.

[RobTheRover]

League 1 is where life is hardest for football clubs. The revenue streams just aren't there, away fans don't travel in consistently high numbers (admittedly less of an issue this weird season), off pitch revenues fall significantly.

The championship, whilst having its own issues, particularly around inequality with parachute payments, etc, is a much better league for a club like us. 

My problem with the championship is that the last time we were there I found some of the teams we faced employed spoiling tactics too often which made for some boring games. Too many teams just desparate not to lose, maybe just stay tight and see if they can nick a goal, rather than looking to go all out to win.

Agreed, but I think we'd be mad to not want to get there.

I think we all want to see Rovers grow the fanbase long-term. I think a run of years where we are in the Championship, or even yo-yoing between the Champ and L1 would surely create some buzz and excitement around the place and complement the work going on in the community to expand the fanbase, and make us a bigger and stronger club as a whole.

Don't get me wrong, I want us to get there.

[Pancho Regan]

Perhaps a poll might sort out this problem

A poll?!

Sort out what problem?!

[Filo]

A fare bit of promotion talk been happening of late, and bound to increase with every point gained...but does every single football fan in Doncaster actually want to see us promoted this season?

Perhaps a poll might sort out this problem

If a supporter doesn’t want his team to get promoted, he should really question himself as to why he wants to be a supporter

[the vicar]

I want premonition but not at any cost, it is IF our club can afford to in the current climate, but yes I want it

[colincramb]

Not being funny, but if a club such as Luton can make a decent go of it, why can’t we? They don’t have a massively different infrastructure to ours. It’s about have a good business plan and hoping it works out. It will always be a struggle but it’s not impossible.

Talent identification is massive at that level for us to be sustainable and I think we are on the right lines with that one

[DonnyBazR0ver]

If you don't want promotion, you want your bumps feeling!

You can't pick and choose, you have to take what comes your way, and for those who'll inevitably say "We're not ready" we'll, we just have to be as ready as we possibly can.

I agree with the above and having watched a few Championship highlights the other night, nothings changed. There's some god awful football interspersed with the odd flash of flair and skill. The mantra seems to be to fill your team full of big lads, lump it up and compete for it. More power and pace rather than guile and skill. It's not a new phenomenon, we've been there before and overcome it.

If Rotherham and Barnsley can do it, then we should hold no fear at all.

Take the size of the clubs out of it, the history, the finance etc, just coming down to XI v XI on the pitch, I'd take Darren Moore over the majority of the other Championship managers any day of the week!

[richtherover]

Why would anyone not want to be promoted? What's the alternative? To put on the brakes and say "Hold on lads, we're probably better off where we are in the long run". Why would you not want to play in a higher division against better quality opposition? If any team's ambition from kick off on day one of the season is not to finish top or thereabouts there's something badly wrong. I'm pretty sure our players are not giving it all in the hope of a mid table finish, and even with covid and monetary issues, why would our fans not want to see us go up? How many of the current squad would we keep if we didn't? We are on a massive upward curve with a terrific group of players and an outstanding manager. I'd be surprised if any single person connected to the club would want anything other than promotion. The next 10 or so games are going to be tough, but I guarantee that most of those teams will be dreading facing us. Plenty of twists and turns to come but I really believe that we're on the verge of something special. In Darren we trust. Surely we all want promotion. Don't we?

[Big Fey]

I want premonition but not at any cost,...

Has this conversation gone all spiritual?

[The Beast]

I always want promotion but don’t particularly enjoy being in the Championship.

[Al4475]

Of course most people want promotion that goes without saying.

I do wonder, should we get up, how many people will almost hold it as a grudge that the board have built steadily and sensibly since last time we were there- despite the current board always stating that they want to get there as self-sustainbly as possible- as opposed to having an alleged godlike figure supposedly bankrolling it for love of the club?

You know what - actually this is very naughty of me and there's no need to bring it up. We are in a great place now with a squad that is building well under the tutelage of an excellent manager - end of!

[Alan Southstand]

It seems to me that the EFL’s commitment is definitely tailored more to Premiership and Championship clubs. I think leagues 1 & 2 are becoming of less interest to them. I maybe a million miles away, of course, but it’s just my gut feeling.

I think if we’re to have a longer term future, then we need to be placing ourselves up there and, hopefully, staying there.

[Chris the Rover]

We need to get promoted if only to give us a better chance of keeping DM. Besides which the  Championship is my favourite league.

[Spud]

League 1 is where life is hardest for football clubs. The revenue streams just aren't there, away fans don't travel in consistently high numbers (admittedly less of an issue this weird season), off pitch revenues fall significantly.

The championship, whilst having its own issues, particularly around inequality with parachute payments, etc, is a much better league for a club like us. 

My problem with the championship is that the last time we were there I found some of the teams we faced employed spoiling tactics too often which made for some boring games. Too many teams just desparate not to lose, maybe just stay tight and see if they can nick a goal, rather than looking to go all out to win.

Agreed, but I think we'd be mad to not want to get there.

I think we all want to see Rovers grow the fanbase long-term. I think a run of years where we are in the Championship, or even yo-yoing between the Champ and L1 would surely create some buzz and excitement around the place and complement the work going on in the community to expand the fanbase, and make us a bigger and stronger club as a whole.

This, for me, well summed up. It's got to be about building the fan base & breaking the cycle of losing local younger support to other bigger clubs

As for the finance perspective, obviously there's much more revenue to be had but wasn't it said somewhere that the owners had more shortfall to make up when we're in the Championship?

[normal rules]

Bournemouth dared to dream and look where they are? Traditionally a lower league club with small crowds and income .......

[colincramb]

Bournemouth dared to dream and look where they are? Traditionally a lower league club with small crowds and income .......

Yes, with a billionaire owner and a clear breach of FFP in doing so

[Chris Black come back]

Bournemouth the very worst example. Entirely on back of the billionaire owner.

[Monkcaster_Rover]

Get us up there. 10/11k crowds back every week. More local derbies. If that bus stop in Sheffield in the form of Rotherham can manage then so can we.

[godlike1]

League 1 is where life is hardest for football clubs. The revenue streams just aren't there, away fans don't travel in consistently high numbers (admittedly less of an issue this weird season), off pitch revenues fall significantly.

The championship, whilst having its own issues, particularly around inequality with parachute payments, etc, is a much better league for a club like us. 

My problem with the championship is that the last time we were there I found some of the teams we faced employed spoiling tactics too often which made for some boring games. Too many teams just desparate not to lose, maybe just stay tight and see if they can nick a goal, rather than looking to go all out to win.

Agreed, but I think we'd be mad to not want to get there.

I think we all want to see Rovers grow the fanbase long-term. I think a run of years where we are in the Championship, or even yo-yoing between the Champ and L1 would surely create some buzz and excitement around the place and complement the work going on in the community to expand the fanbase, and make us a bigger and stronger club as a whole.

This, for me, well summed up. It's got to be about building the fan base & breaking the cycle of losing local younger support to other bigger clubs

As for the finance perspective, obviously there's much more revenue to be had but wasn't it said somewhere that the owners had more shortfall to make up when we're in the Championship?

Good points on both accounts. Would be interesting to know the clubs plans/strategies if promotion is achieved. More income from sky and advertising obviously but more pressure on TB in particular.

The sustainability issue of the club being self sufficient is a long way away esp in covid times and harder to sustain in the championship.

Is there a risk that the owners would be more willing to sell the club in the championship. Despite my digs at them at times we do tend to know where we stand as fans etc

[sha66y]

Good positive responses and all wanting the same thing.....however!

EXPECTATIONS on the Manager, the Owners and the actual team will be immense,

Being in the Championship has its undoubted merits, but staying their can bring all kinds of pain, like being beaten week in week out!

at the moment I look forward to playing teams with a feeling that we are better placed to get a result, whereas if we get promoted I will see every game as a “ I hope we get something” game!

I think I would like the rovers to be a team that is always up there or thereabouts in league one........the Championship bloody frightens me!

But if we are to get to the promised land I will remain positive no matter who is having a melt down...

[EasyforDennis]

Good positive responses and all wanting the same thing.....however!

EXPECTATIONS on the Manager, the Owners and the actual team will be immense,

Being in the Championship has its undoubted merits, but staying their can bring all kinds of pain, like being beaten week in week out!

at the moment I look forward to playing teams with a feeling that we are better placed to get a result, whereas if we get promoted I will see every game as a “ I hope we get something” game!

I think I would like the rovers to be a team that is always up there or thereabouts in league one........the Championship bloody frightens me!

But if we are to get to the promised land I will remain positive no matter who is having a melt down...

Didn't you enjoy being in the Championship a few years ago?

[Branton Rover]

I’ve always thought we are a third tier club with aspirations for the Championship like in 07/08 - if we do go up this season we are better placed than we were in 2013 when we disposed of Flynn then spent an age in appointing Dickov who was a disaster - this time we have Big Darren who has experience of managing in the division albeit not on a shoestring & would anticipate attracting the very best loanees possible to play for DM whereas nobody touched us previously in the Championship with Dickov because our hard won reputation for competence was shot to pieces when we jumped into bed with McKay.

[Filo]

Years and years ago, I never thought I’d ever see Rovers play at Wembley, but I did and always had aspirations of seeing that. Now I have aspirations of seeing us in the Premier League, unlikely, butyou never know, we should always aspire to reach the highest level we can

[Avsuptem]

The Board and management team clearly want us to be in the Championship. A fact that may surprise some given the higher wage bills that will need to be paid to give us a chance of staying up. IMHO the Championship is where we belong.

[Alickismyhero]

Its getting promoted at the right time for me whats important. My feeling was that if we got promoted last year we never had the players to stay in championship.

I was sitting behind Fej's dad at Gillingham when his son was sent off. I said to his dad that it did look like a red with the play acting the Gillingham player did but not to worry next season will be our season.

If we had gone up I think we would have ended up like Wycombe losing every week and surely relegated.

Now DM has built up a team, for virtually nothing, that has a good chance of staying up in a very tough league.

DM knows what he is doing.

[silent majority]

It seems to me that the EFL’s commitment is definitely tailored more to Premiership and Championship clubs. I think leagues 1 & 2 are becoming of less interest to them. I maybe a million miles away, of course, but it’s just my gut feeling.

I think if we’re to have a longer term future, then we need to be placing ourselves up there and, hopefully, staying there.

Alan,

I'm interested in hearing how the EFL can be committed to the Premiership when its nothing to do with them. If the truth is known there's a fair bit of hostility between the EPL and the EFL.

[silent majority]

League 1 is where life is hardest for football clubs. The revenue streams just aren't there, away fans don't travel in consistently high numbers (admittedly less of an issue this weird season), off pitch revenues fall significantly.

The championship, whilst having its own issues, particularly around inequality with parachute payments, etc, is a much better league for a club like us. 

My problem with the championship is that the last time we were there I found some of the teams we faced employed spoiling tactics too often which made for some boring games. Too many teams just desparate not to lose, maybe just stay tight and see if they can nick a goal, rather than looking to go all out to win.

Agreed, but I think we'd be mad to not want to get there.

I think we all want to see Rovers grow the fanbase long-term. I think a run of years where we are in the Championship, or even yo-yoing between the Champ and L1 would surely create some buzz and excitement around the place and complement the work going on in the community to expand the fanbase, and make us a bigger and stronger club as a whole.

This, for me, well summed up. It's got to be about building the fan base & breaking the cycle of losing local younger support to other bigger clubs

As for the finance perspective, obviously there's much more revenue to be had but wasn't it said somewhere that the owners had more shortfall to make up when we're in the Championship?

It's actually less shortfall due to the increased revenues.

Staying in LG1 is harder because of the increased expenditure over and above what you'd pay out in LG2, and yet the income streams are little different.