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Filo

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #60 on April 24, 2021, 05:47:22 pm by Filo »
I am seriously worried about next season.

You’re not the only one, this is a monumental job for the new man



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drfchound

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #61 on April 24, 2021, 06:11:29 pm by drfchound »
So are you happy with the rest of the team then.
You will go down in my estimation if you answer yes.

NickDRFC

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #62 on April 24, 2021, 06:13:43 pm by NickDRFC »
I’ll be shocked if this mess doesn’t bleed into next season. The new players and manager will be coming into a confidence vacuum. It’s an utter mess.

Chris Black come back

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #63 on April 24, 2021, 06:28:10 pm by Chris Black come back »
Backbone starts at the back. Would think the unthinkable with the entire defensive unit. Nobody has been blameless there this season.

the vicar

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #64 on April 24, 2021, 06:32:07 pm by the vicar »
I have never seen a backbone on the front mate lol

Donny Exile in York

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #65 on April 24, 2021, 06:35:16 pm by Donny Exile in York »
I think the main issues are goalkeeper, central midfield and up front... that's quite fundamental, but even though we are not great defensively, we look bereft of any idea going forward on today's showing.

EasyforDennis

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #66 on April 24, 2021, 06:35:42 pm by EasyforDennis »
So are you happy with the rest of the team then.
You will go down in my estimation if you answer yes.

I was replying to a post about Wright and Halliday but I am struggling to make a case for any of those who played today with the exception of maybe Jones, Anderson and Butler if he is to carry on playing. It looks like James might want away if not I would keep him too.

Campsall rover

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #67 on April 24, 2021, 07:33:52 pm by Campsall rover »
Our defensive unit is dreadful. If I said that so far this season we have managed to keep 8 clean sheets and in 1997/98 - the worst season in our entire history - we had kept 7 clean sheets by the same point, you understand how bad this group have been.
CBcb i like clean sheets of course because you don’t lose football matches when you don’t concede.
Having said the obvious with that statement i do think you are a little bit “over the top” shall we say with us not keeping too many this season.
We didn’t keep many clean sheets earlier in the season but we were winning matches by scoring goals.
Our problem imo is the opposite to your view in that the goals scored have virtually dried up and that puts an awful lot of pressure on the team knowing they dare not concede.

Would you prefer to win 1-0 keeping a clean sheet or win 3-1 
I know which i would prefer as much as i like clean sheets ( and as a goalkeeper in my youth ) I LIKED CLEAN SHEETS.

Goals win football matches. Clean sheets mean you don’t lose football matches.

Campsall rover

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #68 on April 24, 2021, 07:56:18 pm by Campsall rover »
IMO the defensive problem we have had in the 2nd half of the season is a team problem not the back 4
We have a very decent back 4 for a league 1 team imo.
Halliday, Wright, Anderson, Butler, John and James are all very competent players at this level.
Defending is the job of all 11 players on the pitch. Good teams defend from the front.
Your strikers chasing across the oppositions back line, midfielders pressing high up the pitch, closing players down defensive midfield and working hard all over the pitch to stop the opposition playing their game.
We were doing that in the first half of the season and we have stopped doing it in the 2nd half.
Yes we have had exceptions for half a game every now and then but we have had no consistent game plan since we beat Oxford at home in January.
The players are now so used to losing that confidence is rock bottom, there is no belief in themselves as individuals or as a team unit.

It is quite simple, we have fallen apart as a team not because we do not have good players but because of lack of belief in what they are doing when they cross that white line.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2021, 08:00:35 pm by Campsall rover »

Jonathan

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #69 on April 24, 2021, 07:58:50 pm by Jonathan »
IMO the defensive problem we have had in the 2nd half of the season is a team problem not the back 4
We have a very decent back 4 for a league 1 team imo.
Halliday, Wright, Anderson, Butler, John & James are all very competent players at this level.
Defending is the job of all 11 players on the pitch. Good teams defend from the front.
Your strikers chasing across the oppositions back line, midfielders pressing high up the pitch, closing players down defensive midfield and working hard all over the pitch to stop the opposition playing their game.
We were doing that in the first half of the season and we have stopped doing it in the 2nd half.
Yes we have had exceptions for half a game every now and then but we have had no consistent game plan since we beat Oxford at home in January.
The players are now so used to losing that confidence is rock bottom, there is no belief in themselves as individuals or as a team unit.

It’s quite simple, we have fallen apart as a team not because we don’t have good players but because of a belief in what they are doing when they cross that white line.


There’s a lot of truth in that in my opinion.

idler

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #70 on April 24, 2021, 08:00:23 pm by idler »
To be fair Campsall, goals only win matches if you outscore the opposition.

Campsall rover

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #71 on April 24, 2021, 08:10:39 pm by Campsall rover »
To be fair Campsall, goals only win matches if you outscore the opposition.
Well yes of course Idler.
I am not advocating we play like Bremner or Keegan played and try to out score the opposition because you will only ever get limited success playing that way. ( Having said that i did enjoy watching Bremner’s team, it was entertaining )
No CBcb is quite correct in wanting us to keep clean sheets but it’s not the be all and end all.
If you have a team who can score goals consistently then conceding an average of 1 goal every match is likely to achieve a minimum of a top 6 place and a very good chance of top 2

Donnybax

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #72 on April 24, 2021, 09:00:49 pm by Donnybax »
Since whiteman left we’ve got no defensive midfielder, no shield. That’s why we are so poor defensively. We’re having to play deeper as a result

idler

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #73 on April 24, 2021, 09:08:17 pm by idler »
We have no steel in midfield. No Doolan,Ravenhill or even Keegan. We are too nice and lightweight.

vaya

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #74 on April 24, 2021, 09:13:17 pm by vaya »
We have no steel in midfield. No Doolan,Ravenhill or even Keegan. We are too nice and lightweight.

Mentally as much as physically.

idler

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #75 on April 24, 2021, 09:17:00 pm by idler »
Exactly. Chris Brown was saying on the podcast that as a young lad he learned a lot from playing in the Rovers team. He said that you knew that the likes of Steve Foster and Tim Ryan would run through a brick wall for the team.

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #76 on April 24, 2021, 09:20:24 pm by Chris Black come back »
Of course it is a team game, but just think of all the piss weak goals we have conceded from stupid penalties, powder puff tackles, simple crosses in to the box, high balls put in to the keeper, corners. These are defensive lapses. Time and time again.

Filo

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #77 on April 24, 2021, 09:24:20 pm by Filo »
Todays goal was due to Wright being attached by bungee cord to the oppositions goal post, the lad went past him that easy

ravenrover

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #78 on April 24, 2021, 09:29:43 pm by ravenrover »
It’s not a question of who is good enough or not for next season, but should I or shouldn’t I buy another season ticket? Currently this shower of shite are not enticing me to buy one


COYR
The majority of this shower, as you put it, wont be here next season

roversdude

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Re: Next Season
« Reply #79 on April 24, 2021, 09:50:28 pm by roversdude »
Of course it is a team game, but just think of all the piss weak goals we have conceded from stupid penalties, powder puff tackles, simple crosses in to the box, high balls put in to the keeper, corners. These are defensive lapses. Time and time again.

But surely we should learn from these ‘mistakes/lapses/errors’ individually and as a team

 

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