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Branton Rover

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Runners and Riders potentially
« on April 28, 2021, 09:30:56 pm by Branton Rover »
Richie Wellens - won promotion and a trophy
Graeme Jones - top flight coaching experience
Neil Harris.     - playoff winning manager
Paul Tisdale.   - promotion winning manager
Micky Mellon.  - currently in work & previously promotion winner
Simon Weaver - in employment won Conference playoff
Andy Butler.    - to be interviewed
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GazLaz

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #1 on April 28, 2021, 09:39:17 pm by GazLaz »
Boothroyd

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #2 on April 28, 2021, 09:43:08 pm by godlike1 »
Who ever comes in, to overcome current supporter disappointment and dissatisfaction at the on pitch slump, they will need some serious backing. I'm sure it'll be same old same old though as its been so successful........oh hang on

Sorry I wish who ever gets the best if course, just wanting to have a season better than this one from start to end with a promotion and new challenge in the championship

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #3 on April 28, 2021, 09:43:21 pm by 5minstogo »
Buckingham

redandwhitearmy

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #4 on April 28, 2021, 09:55:11 pm by redandwhitearmy »
Buckingham ,Wellens and Jones all on there!

GazLaz

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #5 on April 28, 2021, 10:07:54 pm by GazLaz »
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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #6 on April 28, 2021, 10:08:58 pm by mushRTID »
Just read on sky sports heckingbottom is one of 5 candidates for Blades job and he’s favourite with bookies too.

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #7 on April 28, 2021, 10:12:00 pm by 5minstogo »
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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #8 on April 28, 2021, 10:25:48 pm by normal rules »
Des Buckingham is an exciting prospect. He may not be a household name when it comes to football management in the uk, but during his time at Oxford , he helped 24 youth players make the transition to professional contracts. He also worked under the stewardship of Chris Wilder. His managerial win rate is 54%. His achievements with u23 sides in NZ is well documented. He quite literally transformed large parts of the NZ professional game.
He has a masters degree and is a qualified pilot. He has youth on his Side with a good level of maturity. If he is in the running, and makes the final cut, he will be a strong contender I think. I’m guessing it would mean a move back to uk though as last I can see, he was managing in Melbourne. If he wants a move back to the uk, this would be a good move for him.

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« Reply #9 on April 28, 2021, 10:26:47 pm by Jonathan »
Des Buckingham is an exciting prospect. He may not be a household name when it comes to football management in the uk, but during his time at Oxford , he helped 24 youth players make the transition to professional contracts. He also worked under the stewardship of Chris Wilder. His managerial win rate is 54%. His achievements with u23 sides in NZ is well documented. He quite literally transformed large parts of the NZ professional game.
He has a masters degree and is a qualified pilot. He has youth on his Side with a good level of maturity. If he is in the running, and makes the final cut, he will be a strong contender I think. I’m guessing it would mean a move back to uk though as last I can see, he was managing in Melbourne. If he wants a move back to the uk, this would be a good move for him.

Agree with this.

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #10 on April 28, 2021, 10:30:15 pm by 5minstogo »
Des Buckingham is an exciting prospect. He may not be a household name when it comes to football management in the uk, but during his time at Oxford , he helped 24 youth players make the transition to professional contracts. He also worked under the stewardship of Chris Wilder. His managerial win rate is 54%. His achievements with u23 sides in NZ is well documented. He quite literally transformed large parts of the NZ professional game.
He has a masters degree and is a qualified pilot. He has youth on his Side with a good level of maturity. If he is in the running, and makes the final cut, he will be a strong contender I think. I’m guessing it would mean a move back to uk though as last I can see, he was managing in Melbourne. If he wants a move back to the uk, this would be a good move for him.

He would be my choice from realistic candidates. Could we keep hold of him though?

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #11 on April 28, 2021, 10:34:50 pm by redandwhitearmy »
Des Buckingham is an exciting prospect. He may not be a household name when it comes to football management in the uk, but during his time at Oxford , he helped 24 youth players make the transition to professional contracts. He also worked under the stewardship of Chris Wilder. His managerial win rate is 54%. His achievements with u23 sides in NZ is well documented. He quite literally transformed large parts of the NZ professional game.
He has a masters degree and is a qualified pilot. He has youth on his Side with a good level of maturity. If he is in the running, and makes the final cut, he will be a strong contender I think. I’m guessing it would mean a move back to uk though as last I can see, he was managing in Melbourne. If he wants a move back to the uk, this would be a good move for him.

He would be my choice from realistic candidates. Could we keep hold of him though?

Whether we can keep hold of somebody shouldn't be a criteria as to them getting the job.

It isn't ideal when your manager leaves for another team but the fact that DM,GM,Saunders etc all were cherry picked shows that the club are doing well when it comes to managerial decisions.   I'd be far more concerned if they weren't being cherry picked.

It shows that they're having a reasonable amount of success and at the end of the day, we are a league one team. Good Managers will come and go just like good players will. Part and parcel of the game.

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« Reply #12 on April 28, 2021, 10:36:09 pm by normal rules »
Buckingham is young enough to be able to commit to a reasonable contract length. I can’t imagine his expectations would need managing too much in regards to wages. I can’t imagine Melbourne pay a kings ransom.
Then there is his personal circumstance, which I know nothing about at all. But a move back to uk could fit with his plans ?
He would come to Rovers with little or no baggage. Fresh, young, keen, but with enough pedigree to justify giving him a go. A real chance to make a good name for himself as a manager in the EFL.

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« Reply #13 on April 28, 2021, 10:38:54 pm by normal rules »
Des Buckingham is an exciting prospect. He may not be a household name when it comes to football management in the uk, but during his time at Oxford , he helped 24 youth players make the transition to professional contracts. He also worked under the stewardship of Chris Wilder. His managerial win rate is 54%. His achievements with u23 sides in NZ is well documented. He quite literally transformed large parts of the NZ professional game.
He has a masters degree and is a qualified pilot. He has youth on his Side with a good level of maturity. If he is in the running, and makes the final cut, he will be a strong contender I think. I’m guessing it would mean a move back to uk though as last I can see, he was managing in Melbourne. If he wants a move back to the uk, this would be a good move for him.

He would be my choice from realistic candidates. Could we keep hold of him though?

As SM has alluded to, the next manager will have a clause attached to their contract I suspect, which will prevent premature departures without consequences. And that will be written into any offer from the outset. To prevent any future manager doing a “Moore”.
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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #14 on April 28, 2021, 10:45:33 pm by elmsallrover »
Sorry but money talks

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #15 on April 28, 2021, 10:50:42 pm by DearneValleyRover »
I’m happy with Buckingham that’s if he’s actually applied

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #16 on April 28, 2021, 10:54:27 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Hasn't he been linked with Palace?

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« Reply #17 on April 28, 2021, 10:55:03 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Nobody has mentioned Jason tindall ex Bournemouth, to me seems potentially a logical fit?

Another perhaps top flight, Alex Neil? He's unlikely to get a championship job after Preston I'd say?

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #18 on April 28, 2021, 10:59:14 pm by PDX_Rover »
No mention of Herr Stendel?

godlike1

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« Reply #19 on April 29, 2021, 07:08:02 am by godlike1 »
I really don't understand this clamour for Buckingham. It'd be just as much of a gamble as AB in my view albeit he has a little more managerial experience.

It just goes to show what a complicated lot we are and that it doesn't matter a jot what the club does or who it appoints they will get criticism from someone.

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« Reply #20 on April 29, 2021, 07:26:49 am by 5minstogo »
Nobody has mentioned Jason tindall ex Bournemouth, to me seems potentially a logical fit?

Another perhaps top flight, Alex Neil? He's unlikely to get a championship job after Preston I'd say?

Either of these would get my vote after Buckingham. If this is the calibre of applicants we will end up with another very good manager

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« Reply #21 on April 29, 2021, 08:39:07 am by Metalmicky »
Nobody has mentioned Jason tindall ex Bournemouth, to me seems potentially a logical fit?

Another perhaps top flight, Alex Neil? He's unlikely to get a championship job after Preston I'd say?

Alex Neil is a good shout.... It might be improbable that he would be step down a league since managing a struggling Preston, but he had a good record at Norwich and got them promoted to the Premiership.  I wouldn't say no... if the pay package was manageable for the club.
   

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« Reply #22 on April 29, 2021, 08:50:07 am by idler »
He was slated at Preston for the dire football that they produced under him.

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« Reply #23 on April 29, 2021, 09:00:03 am by Dare to dream! »
Not sure what people see in Buckingham - no experience of English football and infact only 5 years of football coaching experience at a level you can only imagine is around the quality of the conference.

He would be an incredibly poor appointment.

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« Reply #24 on April 29, 2021, 09:34:53 am by Branton Rover »
Serious question is Buckingham currently in the uk, if he’s not surely that would preclude him at the moment

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« Reply #25 on April 29, 2021, 09:36:29 am by normal rules »
Not sure what people see in Buckingham - no experience of English football and infact only 5 years of football coaching experience at a level you can only imagine is around the quality of the conference.

He would be an incredibly poor appointment.

Buckingham began his professional coaching career at Oxford United at the age of 18, initially working through the club's age-group squads. At the start of the 2013–14 Football League Two season, he progressed as a coach into the first team under then-manager Chris Wilder.

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« Reply #26 on April 29, 2021, 09:40:25 am by GazLaz »
Serious question is Buckingham currently in the uk, if he’s not surely that would preclude him at the moment

You will see him on the sideline for Melbourne City in about 20mins!

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« Reply #27 on April 29, 2021, 10:00:02 am by River Don »
I really don't understand this clamour for Buckingham. It'd be just as much of a gamble as AB in my view albeit he has a little more managerial experience.

It just goes to show what a complicated lot we are and that it doesn't matter a jot what the club does or who it appoints they will get criticism from someone.

The difference is Buckingham appears to be a qualified and highly motivated individual. His CV shouts astute, clever young fella.

AB on the other hand is stiil talking in footballing platitudes and doesn't show real signs of getting to grips with the job.

GazLaz

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« Reply #28 on April 29, 2021, 10:05:24 am by GazLaz »
I really don't understand this clamour for Buckingham. It'd be just as much of a gamble as AB in my view albeit he has a little more managerial experience.

It just goes to show what a complicated lot we are and that it doesn't matter a jot what the club does or who it appoints they will get criticism from someone.

The difference is Buckingham appears to be a qualified and highly motivated individual. His CV shouts astute, clever young fella.

AB on the other hand is stiil talking in footballing platitudes and doesn't show real signs of getting to grips with the job.

Butler has had two job interviews a week for the last few months, pre and post match. I’ve heard nothing that indicates he will be a good manager.

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Re: Runners and Riders potentially
« Reply #29 on April 29, 2021, 10:17:05 am by Jonathan »
Serious question is Buckingham currently in the uk, if he’s not surely that would preclude him at the moment

You will see him on the sideline for Melbourne City in about 20mins!

As long as he’s happy to log into Microsoft Teams in the middle of the night then surely he can still be interviewed!

 

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