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No, Woukd have zero effect just one nation boycotting it and would only harm our country and our footballers
Quote from: dickos1 on July 17, 2021, 08:11:18 amNo, Woukd have zero effect just one nation boycotting it and would only harm our country and our footballers Pulling out our players would only harm the country and especially the players and do bugger all to Qatar. As for just one country boycotting television country, we'd of course campaign for other countries to follow our lead. Playing in a tournament but not televising it is a more powerful statement as it lasts for a month and underlines the reason for the whole of that time. Just pulling out months before the tournament only lasts for as long as it takes to make the announcement. We'd get replaced by somebody else (remember Denmark 1992?) and the tournament would carry on without us and do nothing to Qatar at all. They'd still get promoted on telly and the sponsors money will still roll in.
Quote from: dickos1 on July 17, 2021, 08:11:18 amNo, Woukd have zero effect just one nation boycotting it and would only harm our country and our footballers You could, of course, act on your own principles and refuse to watch any of it on television yourself.
Quote from: dickos1 on July 17, 2021, 08:11:18 amNo, Woukd have zero effect just one nation boycotting it and would only harm our country and our footballers Are you implying that the England football teams stance against racism doesn’t extend to human rights violations in other countries then?A kind of selective “ stamp anything out that affects me” mentality, but bugger any other ethnic groups being systematically violated so I can play football? Put it this way….if they ( England team) do not support other causes of racism, how can they hope to be seen as credible?The guest workers in Qatar are practically modern day slaves with no rights whatsoever, So if anyone thinks that black privileged footballers are being terribly mistreated, they should probably read the articles relating to Qatar….for a more balanced view, for to deny anything is happening and has already happened is to condone abuse of other races!Mull it over and come back with a good reason why you think they should play…
Quote from: sha66y on July 17, 2021, 08:35:00 amQuote from: dickos1 on July 17, 2021, 08:11:18 amNo, Woukd have zero effect just one nation boycotting it and would only harm our country and our footballers Are you implying that the England football teams stance against racism doesn’t extend to human rights violations in other countries then?A kind of selective “ stamp anything out that affects me” mentality, but bugger any other ethnic groups being systematically violated so I can play football? Put it this way….if they ( England team) do not support other causes of racism, how can they hope to be seen as credible?The guest workers in Qatar are practically modern day slaves with no rights whatsoever, So if anyone thinks that black privileged footballers are being terribly mistreated, they should probably read the articles relating to Qatar….for a more balanced view, for to deny anything is happening and has already happened is to condone abuse of other races!Mull it over and come back with a good reason why you think they should play…You do seem to have a strange negative attitude to people of colour. And obviously have no understanding on the subject as you yourself have mentioned previously.
SorryBut there’s absolutely no way all the nations would boycott it. We’d do it alone and they’d just replace us with someone else
Quote from: dickos1 on July 17, 2021, 09:34:42 pmSorryBut there’s absolutely no way all the nations would boycott it. We’d do it alone and they’d just replace us with someone else You come across as “football first “ at ANY cost? In fact I think if someone pointed out that the bones of the dead slave workers was crushed and used as under soil drainage , you would probably think that was a novel idea, I can’t knock your dedication to football, but your moral compass is well and truly broken…But ya answers are fun to read, and that’s why we have debates
Quote from: sha66y on July 18, 2021, 08:07:11 amQuote from: dickos1 on July 17, 2021, 09:34:42 pmSorryBut there’s absolutely no way all the nations would boycott it. We’d do it alone and they’d just replace us with someone else You come across as “football first “ at ANY cost? In fact I think if someone pointed out that the bones of the dead slave workers was crushed and used as under soil drainage , you would probably think that was a novel idea, I can’t knock your dedication to football, but your moral compass is well and truly broken…But ya answers are fun to read, and that’s why we have debatesYour replies are more depressing than fun, You really struggle to understand most topics.
Quote from: sha66y on July 18, 2021, 08:07:11 amQuote from: dickos1 on July 17, 2021, 09:34:42 pmSorryBut there’s absolutely no way all the nations would boycott it. We’d do it alone and they’d just replace us with someone else You come across as “football first “ at ANY cost? In fact I think if someone pointed out that the bones of the dead slave workers was crushed and used as under soil drainage , you would probably think that was a novel idea, I can’t knock your dedication to football, but your moral compass is well and truly broken…But ya answers are fun to read, and that’s why we have debatesIt's not 'football first', but by stopping thr players from taking part you're punishing them and not hurting the Qataris one jot. My suggestion is to hold the tournament, make the Qataris pay for it but don't give them the kudos they're wanting from it. Punish the guilty, not the innocent.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 18, 2021, 11:58:24 amQuote from: sha66y on July 18, 2021, 08:07:11 amQuote from: dickos1 on July 17, 2021, 09:34:42 pmSorryBut there’s absolutely no way all the nations would boycott it. We’d do it alone and they’d just replace us with someone else You come across as “football first “ at ANY cost? In fact I think if someone pointed out that the bones of the dead slave workers was crushed and used as under soil drainage , you would probably think that was a novel idea, I can’t knock your dedication to football, but your moral compass is well and truly broken…But ya answers are fun to read, and that’s why we have debatesIt's not 'football first', but by stopping thr players from taking part you're punishing them and not hurting the Qataris one jot. My suggestion is to hold the tournament, make the Qataris pay for it but don't give them the kudos they're wanting from it. Punish the guilty, not the innocent.Surely it would be easier for 30 guys to say “ no thanks” than what you are proposing, to stop all broadcasts would be impossible !and I don’t consider it to be a punishment to a footballer that has a conscience to miss a tournament on humane grounds