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Quote from: NickDRFC on August 10, 2021, 06:21:47 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on August 10, 2021, 03:25:37 pmQuote from: Redandwhite on August 10, 2021, 01:11:04 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on August 10, 2021, 12:37:28 pmQuote from: Redandwhite on August 10, 2021, 12:27:43 pmPoor that from butler We pay up his contract, which ate into the budget, so he could continue playing . Now he's gone to Peterborough as a coach. And what do you think we'd have done if Butler had got a coaching offer instead of a playing one whilst contracted here?Andy Butler has done nothing wrong in this whole situation, not even close.He rejected a loan move to Boston, got a pay out as a result, and signed for them, now turned up in fergies coaching team . Non of which he could have done if we didn't pay him up . He owes rovers alot . Andy Butler owes Rovers absolutely nothing. He has twice been shown the door by the club after years of excellent service as a player, and after stepping in as manager last season in trying circumstances. He's made over 200 appearances, been part of a promotion and a key figure on and off the pitch for years.He loves Rovers, his hometown club, and has given his all for us, yet because things didn't go well in his first senior men's coaching role it seems fans have just decided none of that matters anymore.He isn't here anymore as a direct consequence of his brief managerial tenure not going well, and because our new manager either didn't fancy him or simply didn't see him as a big part of his plans, so he's had to leave.He didn't hold Rovers up for money or ask for anything other than the opportunity to continue his career elsewhere once it became clear he wasn't wanted here.He owes Rovers? Absolutely not in a million years.If he didn’t ask for anything other than the opportunity to continue his career elsewhere then why did we have to pay him up? I agree with the gist of your post that he owes Rovers nothing but I’m not sure we owe him anything either. The manager role didn’t work out but he made it quite clear that he still had his eye on the manager role even after his disastrous tenure - you can’t blame Wellens for not wanting him around with that in mind, that’s just life unfortunately.When you move job’s do you write off your unissued holidays or pay during your notice period?We’ve twice forced him out the door. The least we can do is pay him what he is owed.
Quote from: RoversAlias on August 10, 2021, 03:25:37 pmQuote from: Redandwhite on August 10, 2021, 01:11:04 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on August 10, 2021, 12:37:28 pmQuote from: Redandwhite on August 10, 2021, 12:27:43 pmPoor that from butler We pay up his contract, which ate into the budget, so he could continue playing . Now he's gone to Peterborough as a coach. And what do you think we'd have done if Butler had got a coaching offer instead of a playing one whilst contracted here?Andy Butler has done nothing wrong in this whole situation, not even close.He rejected a loan move to Boston, got a pay out as a result, and signed for them, now turned up in fergies coaching team . Non of which he could have done if we didn't pay him up . He owes rovers alot . Andy Butler owes Rovers absolutely nothing. He has twice been shown the door by the club after years of excellent service as a player, and after stepping in as manager last season in trying circumstances. He's made over 200 appearances, been part of a promotion and a key figure on and off the pitch for years.He loves Rovers, his hometown club, and has given his all for us, yet because things didn't go well in his first senior men's coaching role it seems fans have just decided none of that matters anymore.He isn't here anymore as a direct consequence of his brief managerial tenure not going well, and because our new manager either didn't fancy him or simply didn't see him as a big part of his plans, so he's had to leave.He didn't hold Rovers up for money or ask for anything other than the opportunity to continue his career elsewhere once it became clear he wasn't wanted here.He owes Rovers? Absolutely not in a million years.If he didn’t ask for anything other than the opportunity to continue his career elsewhere then why did we have to pay him up? I agree with the gist of your post that he owes Rovers nothing but I’m not sure we owe him anything either. The manager role didn’t work out but he made it quite clear that he still had his eye on the manager role even after his disastrous tenure - you can’t blame Wellens for not wanting him around with that in mind, that’s just life unfortunately.
Quote from: Redandwhite on August 10, 2021, 01:11:04 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on August 10, 2021, 12:37:28 pmQuote from: Redandwhite on August 10, 2021, 12:27:43 pmPoor that from butler We pay up his contract, which ate into the budget, so he could continue playing . Now he's gone to Peterborough as a coach. And what do you think we'd have done if Butler had got a coaching offer instead of a playing one whilst contracted here?Andy Butler has done nothing wrong in this whole situation, not even close.He rejected a loan move to Boston, got a pay out as a result, and signed for them, now turned up in fergies coaching team . Non of which he could have done if we didn't pay him up . He owes rovers alot . Andy Butler owes Rovers absolutely nothing. He has twice been shown the door by the club after years of excellent service as a player, and after stepping in as manager last season in trying circumstances. He's made over 200 appearances, been part of a promotion and a key figure on and off the pitch for years.He loves Rovers, his hometown club, and has given his all for us, yet because things didn't go well in his first senior men's coaching role it seems fans have just decided none of that matters anymore.He isn't here anymore as a direct consequence of his brief managerial tenure not going well, and because our new manager either didn't fancy him or simply didn't see him as a big part of his plans, so he's had to leave.He didn't hold Rovers up for money or ask for anything other than the opportunity to continue his career elsewhere once it became clear he wasn't wanted here.He owes Rovers? Absolutely not in a million years.
Quote from: RoversAlias on August 10, 2021, 12:37:28 pmQuote from: Redandwhite on August 10, 2021, 12:27:43 pmPoor that from butler We pay up his contract, which ate into the budget, so he could continue playing . Now he's gone to Peterborough as a coach. And what do you think we'd have done if Butler had got a coaching offer instead of a playing one whilst contracted here?Andy Butler has done nothing wrong in this whole situation, not even close.He rejected a loan move to Boston, got a pay out as a result, and signed for them, now turned up in fergies coaching team . Non of which he could have done if we didn't pay him up . He owes rovers alot .
Quote from: Redandwhite on August 10, 2021, 12:27:43 pmPoor that from butler We pay up his contract, which ate into the budget, so he could continue playing . Now he's gone to Peterborough as a coach. And what do you think we'd have done if Butler had got a coaching offer instead of a playing one whilst contracted here?Andy Butler has done nothing wrong in this whole situation, not even close.
Poor that from butler We pay up his contract, which ate into the budget, so he could continue playing . Now he's gone to Peterborough as a coach.
He’s young and he won’t be the first youngster that needs calming down. It’s over the top to suggest we’ve wasted our budget on him