Racism in hungary

[SydneyRover]

Maybe it's your rants about young people and racist comments that give you away, can't really be sure.

[BillyStubbsTears]

  No Filo, it might come as a surprise to you  but it's racism against the British, its prevalent throughout the world, and your no better thought of than any of the rest of us.

Ahh. Got it. They weren't making monkey chants at BLACK players. They were aiming them at BRITISH players. Because lefties in this country hate Britain.

Perfect example of how a diet of the Express and Mike Graham f**ks up a brain. Kids. Just say no.

[normal rules]

I wondered how long a post about racism in a different country would self implode into a left v right verbal brawl on here.

And AL is right. The English FA will wheel their merry circus off to Qatar next year, complicit with the rest of the footballing world with the atrocities being carried out there, on slaves being used to build the very stadia they will play in.
They will take the knee, wear armbands and sing the anti racist tune.
It will not make the slightest difference.
To criticise the awful behaviour in Hungary last night and go to Qatar next year is the very epitome of hypocrisy.

[Filo]

I wondered how long a post about racism in a different country would self implode into a left v right verbal brawl on here.

And AL is right. The English FA will wheel their merry circus off to Qatar next year, complicit with the rest of the footballing world with the atrocities being carried out there, on slaves being used to build the very stadia they will play in.
They will take the knee, wear armbands and sing the anti racist tune.
It will not make the slightest difference.
To criticise the awful behaviour in Hungary last night and go to Qatar next year is the very epitome of hypocrisy.

Theres only one person turned it into a L v R brawl, it’s there for all to see

[drfchound]

Filo, are you referring to me in that post?

[normal rules]

And it may surprise you to know that India ranks consistently as the most racist country on the planet. Despite it being a melting pot of differing ethnic and cultural groups, most Indians identify as Indian. They just do t like anyone who isn’t Indian, especially as neighbours.

Determining the most racist countries in the world can be difficult, and the results might not be consistent from one study to the next. The problem with racism is that it is a challenging variable to measure. Although there is no complexity within the trait of racism, it can be quite challenging to determine if someone is racist or not based on a questionnaire. Surveys are used to conduct the majority of racism research.

Two different articles published about three years apart by separate entities showed common finds regarding most racist countries. The Washington Post published an article in 2013. In discussing racism worldwide, the article dubbed India as the most racist country in the world. In 2016, Business Tech released a report of most racist countries in the world.

India is a country with a population with little diversity in terms of nationality. Most people identify as Indians, though their ethnicities can differ depending upon the area of India in which they reside or were born. Either way, if you are not used to seeing or interacting with people of different races, then it might be a bit of a cultural shock to suddenly be asked to envision yourself being neighbors with someone of a different nationality than yours.

I can’t imagine India, with a population of 1.2 billion, is a country that hates the British. The brits played a large part making the country what it is today.

Lebanon, Bahrain, Egypt and Libya all rank highly also. Again, not countries that traditionally would have a big beef with British people.

I’ve travelled a fair bit around the world and I’ve never felt hated by anyone, just for being British. Apart from Italy perhaps. Because the Italians think they are better than everyone for some reason.

[Filo]

Filo, are you referring to me in that post?

No not at all, you need to curb your paranoia

[drfchound]

Filo, are you referring to me in that post?

No not at all, you need to curb your paranoia

To be honest, I am surprised at that as you often try to pin stuff on me that has no relevance.
I expect it of you.
Who are you on about then, maybe if you put names on your posts it would remove any doubts.

[Filo]

Filo, are you referring to me in that post?

No not at all, you need to curb your paranoia

To be honest, I am surprised at that as you often try to pin stuff on me that has no relevance.
I expect it of you.
Who are you on about then, maybe if you put names on your posts it would remove any doubts.

I’m not getting into a too and frow with you, if you’ve got a complex thats your problem not mine, and thats my last word on the matter, it wasn’t aimed at you, get over it!

[BillyStubbsTears]

I wondered how long a post about racism in a different country would self implode into a left v right verbal brawl on here.

And AL is right. The English FA will wheel their merry circus off to Qatar next year, complicit with the rest of the footballing world with the atrocities being carried out there, on slaves being used to build the very stadia they will play in.
They will take the knee, wear armbands and sing the anti racist tune.
It will not make the slightest difference.
To criticise the awful behaviour in Hungary last night and go to Qatar next year is the very epitome of hypocrisy.

Always seems to be the way. I'm still bemused where the idea came from that anyone was comparing Britain to quasi-fascist Hungary on this thread. It all seems to have gone tits up since then.

[River Don]

Whilst I refuse to take sides between yourself hound and bst, ever since the early 20th century, Hungary has been a hotbed for racism.  They sided with the facist Italians in the 20’s and 30’s, then hitler and the nazis in the lead up to and during ww2. Never been allies of ours. Not one of our favoured countries. They are one good reason to be rid of the Eu. Contribute little, take as much as they can.  In fact they could be on the verge of leaving or being kicked out of the Eu. They like to back a losing side too, constantly getting battered by the soviets every time they entered conflict with them in the 1940’s.

It's probably more ancient than that.

Hungary is really frontier territory, to the south there is the Balkans, Albania and Turkey. Keeping foreign invaders out of Europe particularly Muslims fell to the Hungarians. They were fighting the Ottoman Empire way back.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Yeah and the fact that they themselves were violent invaders from the Asiatic Steppe fits in where in their assessment?

[drfchound]

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Filo, are you referring to me in that post?

No not at all, you need to curb your paranoia

To be honest, I am surprised at that as you often try to pin stuff on me that has no relevance.
I expect it of you.
Who are you on about then, maybe if you put names on your posts it would remove any doubts.

I’m not getting into a too and frow with you, if you’ve got a complex thats your problem not mine, and thats my last word on the matter, it wasn’t aimed at you, get over it!

I don’t want a to and fro either so that’s fine by me.
I wouldn’t have bothered with my last post to you had you not thrown in the paranoia thing trying to be a clever dick.

[belton rover]

I wondered how long a post about racism in a different country would self implode into a left v right verbal brawl on here.

And AL is right. The English FA will wheel their merry circus off to Qatar next year, complicit with the rest of the footballing world with the atrocities being carried out there, on slaves being used to build the very stadia they will play in.
They will take the knee, wear armbands and sing the anti racist tune.
It will not make the slightest difference.
To criticise the awful behaviour in Hungary last night and go to Qatar next year is the very epitome of hypocrisy.

Theres only one person turned it into a L v R brawl, it’s there for all to see

It’s there for all to see, but the one person who knows who it is won’t tell anyone else.
Hmm. Cryptic.

[normal rules]

Whilst I refuse to take sides between yourself hound and bst, ever since the early 20th century, Hungary has been a hotbed for racism.  They sided with the facist Italians in the 20’s and 30’s, then hitler and the nazis in the lead up to and during ww2. Never been allies of ours. Not one of our favoured countries. They are one good reason to be rid of the Eu. Contribute little, take as much as they can.  In fact they could be on the verge of leaving or being kicked out of the Eu. They like to back a losing side too, constantly getting battered by the soviets every time they entered conflict with them in the 1940’s.

It's probably more ancient than that.

Hungary is really frontier territory, to the south there is the Balkans, Albania and Turkey. Keeping foreign invaders out of Europe particularly Muslims fell to the Hungarians. They were fighting the Ottoman Empire way back.

It’s much mOre ancient RD. I just wanted to keep it recent. Ish.

[wilts rover]

I'm not racist.

It's just a total coincidence I think that condeming racist behaviour is wrong and condeming anti-racist gestures is right.

I notice our Foreign Secretary has been in Qatar today. Just going to post now in the thread that people will have started condeming this visit by a senior member of the British government to a country steeped in modern slavery...

[tyke1962]

I wondered how long a post about racism in a different country would self implode into a left v right verbal brawl on here.

And AL is right. The English FA will wheel their merry circus off to Qatar next year, complicit with the rest of the footballing world with the atrocities being carried out there, on slaves being used to build the very stadia they will play in.
They will take the knee, wear armbands and sing the anti racist tune.
It will not make the slightest difference.
To criticise the awful behaviour in Hungary last night and go to Qatar next year is the very epitome of hypocrisy.

Absolutely correct NM .

The virtue signalling from the usual suspects is laughable .

Nobody dare say the Q word .

Not Ian Wright
Not Southgate
Not Sterling

Keep taking the knee boys it's about as far as you are prepared go .

[SydneyRover]

At least Southgate stands for something tyke and is not just on the sidelines sneering

And here's someone that does speak up for Q, unless of course you mean the queen.

 Jürgen Klopp meets Kop Outs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUNuPplsrdc

You can attach which ever minority group you like to this message.

[tyke1962]

At least Southgate stands for something tyke and is not just on the sidelines sneering

And here's someone that does speak up for Q, unless of course you mean the queen.

 Jürgen Klopp meets Kop Outs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUNuPplsrdc

You can attach which ever minority group you like to this message.

Standing for something comes with having substance attached to it Sydney .

Clearly 3 world cup points against our nearest group rivals was more important than instructing the players to leave the field when the monkey chants began .

3 world cup points taking you to Qatar !!!!!!

When some meat gets put on the bones taking the knee might actually mean something .

[SydneyRover]

So what do you support Tyke? give us a breakdown

[tyke1962]

So what do you support Tyke? give us a breakdown

I support substance Sydney and not a bunch of Sky Sports personalities saying " I'm in " and very little else .

I'd support the country not going to Qatar .

I'd support the players walking off the field at the first hint of racism irrespective of the magnitude of the match or the scoreline .

I'd support Hungary banned from playing any games until they are fit to do so in the 21st century and if your going to kick it out then bloody kick it out then along with any other backward country's spouting this kind of bile .

[SydneyRover]

It appears to follow your usual modus operandi, where you keep upping the anti to the impossible to win your point Tyke.

[sha66y]

Ok, ….I saw the news , our black players once again were abused racially during a football match, and let’s face it, what are the authorities really going to do about it ?

Probably make some noise, blah,blah,blah !

Now let’s look at what would get better results!

Once a racist chant starts at any game anywhere, the whole team walks off, and I mean walks off and goes home, the Manager can explain to the world press that he won’t tolerate this kind of behaviour, ….nobody can argue with that, it shows solidarity from the team and sends a very clear message to the Governing bodies…

However the main problem we have is that these racially abused players haven’t thought to do that …..so they just aren’t pissed off enough……..yet!

[SydneyRover]

Supporters are divided here about supporting black players, don't you think it's best to get ones own house in order first? As soon as it's mentioned people erroneously or deliberately bring politics into it so a rational debate cannot be had.

[tyke1962]

It appears to follow your usual modus operandi, where you keep upping the anti to the impossible to win your point Tyke.

Well when Mandela was locked up in his prison cell for decades the thought of him becoming South Africa's President seemed impossible .

Yet the virtue signalling mob can't instruct their own players to walk off a football field when they are racially abused .

Even the players themselves won't do it .

They aren't even prepared to sacrifice a world cup .

There's nothing impossible about it if the will exists .

The will unfortunately only seems to go as far as the easy yards .

[SydneyRover]

Do you support blm Tyke?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Fascinating.

Black folk get racially abused and THEY are at fault for not doing what a white man thinks they should do.

[belton rover]

Supporters are divided here about supporting black players, don't you think it's best to get ones own house in order first? As soon as it's mentioned people erroneously or deliberately bring politics into it so a rational debate cannot be had.

No they are not. They may be, however, divided about HOW black players should be supported.

You are dangerously trying to create divisions that aren’t there.

[belton rover]

Fascinating.

Black folk get racially abused and THEY are at fault for not doing what a white man thinks they should do.

What utter b*llocks. Your posts are becoming more and more cretinous by the day.

[drfchound]

Fascinating.

Black folk get racially abused and THEY are at fault for not doing what a white man thinks they should do.

What utter b*llocks. Your posts are becoming more and more cretinous by the day.

Correct Belton.
Tyke said that even the players themselves won’t walk off the pitch.
As far as I know the players are black players as well as white ones so how is that calling people out for suggesting black people are getting blamed for not doing what a white man is telling them what to do.