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SydneyRover

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Re: Levelling up
« Reply #30 on November 02, 2021, 11:25:14 am by SydneyRover »
Thinking about the article I posted above about Burnley a good line for labour to throw at the tories would be ........... Build back what you broke!

And on the subject of building back what you broke ...............

''‘Levelling Up’ Fund Gives £1.25 Billion to Areas that Have Lost £25.5 Billion''
Sam Bright, Byline Times, 29 October 2021

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/10/29/levelling-up-fund-gives-1-25-billion-to-areas-that-have-lost-25-5-billion/



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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Levelling up
« Reply #31 on November 02, 2021, 12:37:58 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
It does have a feeling of an abusive relationship. A man regularly slaps his wife about for a decade, then buys her fish and chips and she's supposed to think he has changed.

wilts rover

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« Reply #32 on November 02, 2021, 05:00:28 pm by wilts rover »
This is from a parody twitter account:

Proud to announce we are levelling up the UK with a £2.6 billion fund which replaces the £4.5 billion fund you were getting from the EU. This means we are funding poorer regions to the tune of a whopping minus £1.9 billion! Isn't this brilliant?

https://twitter.com/GetBrexit_Done/status/1455289891579998213

Although as we now know, its not even all going to the poorer regions - quite a bit has been allocated to wealthy areas with connections to Tory ministers.

SydneyRover

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Re: Levelling up
« Reply #33 on November 12, 2021, 10:50:24 pm by SydneyRover »
Looks as though the government is in the dark as much as everyone else, I hope no one voted for it.

''Michael Gove's plan to end levelling-up confusion''

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-59259338

Metalmicky

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« Reply #34 on January 30, 2022, 12:52:16 am by Metalmicky »

SydneyRover

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« Reply #35 on January 30, 2022, 01:20:29 am by SydneyRover »
No nothing happening ........?

''Conservatives accused of ‘levelling up’ stunt to save Boris Johnson’s job''

''But after the Observer contacted senior sources at the Treasury to ask if its ministers had signed off on the promised £1.5bn, Gove’s department backtracked and confessed that the “new” fund was not new money at all but would be made up of levelling-up funds that had been announced by the chancellor, Rishi Sunak, in his spending review last autumn''

aw-shucks

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/29/conservatives-accused-of-levelling-up-stunt-to-save-boris-johnsons-job


SydneyRover

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« Reply #36 on February 04, 2022, 03:28:57 am by SydneyRover »
To start levelling up this government first needs to get back to where it started back in 1979.

Since 2010 the number of emergency food parcels distributed by Trussell Trust food banks has risen from just over 40,000 to well over one and a half million – an increase of 3,900% in just 9 years.

https://www.charity-works.co.uk/food-bank-britain/#:~:text=Since%202010%20the%20number%20of,3%2C900%25%20in%20just%209%20years.

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https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8585/

KeithMyath

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« Reply #37 on February 04, 2022, 08:14:41 am by KeithMyath »
Levelling up here in Cornwall or atleast parity to what the EU was handing over. Means this EU money average last 10 years , 106 million a year first year Cornwall applied to the initial Community Renewal Fund requesting the maximum 3 million and got 1 million. So 1 million instead of 106 million. Sunak and co said Cornwall would not lose out and so did the local conservative MPs here. Said it would be a mixture of levelling up and replacement EU money. No money has been given to Cornwall for levelling up, not a penny.

Shared Prosperity Fund, which is set to replace the Community Renewal Fund from 2022 has a maximum amount of 400 million going forward a year. For Cornwall to have parity with EU payments before Brexit. They would need roughly 25% of that pot every year. Never going to happen. It's expected to bring in lest than 20 million based on the share Cornwall got for the entire UK as it did from the EU.

So 20 million instead of 106 million a year, how is that levelling up. Already my local leisure centre is closing as has out local ambulance station. It's dire. Especially for those on low incomes who benefited the most from Council services who were struggling prior to Brexit, add the cost of living, the house prices up by 50 % in some areas and you can see why Cornwall is becoming a ghost town of holiday homes.

Must be the same all over the country, lied to our faces and they are still in power.

SydneyRover

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Re: Levelling up
« Reply #38 on February 04, 2022, 08:48:50 am by SydneyRover »
I'm sure someone will be along soon to explain why Keith.

tyke1962

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« Reply #39 on February 04, 2022, 06:05:11 pm by tyke1962 »
To start levelling up this government first needs to get back to where it started back in 1979.

Since 2010 the number of emergency food parcels distributed by Trussell Trust food banks has risen from just over 40,000 to well over one and a half million – an increase of 3,900% in just 9 years.

https://www.charity-works.co.uk/food-bank-britain/#:~:text=Since%202010%20the%20number%20of,3%2C900%25%20in%20just%209%20years.

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https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8585/

You've taken out the years between 1997 and 2010 Sydney .

You did say we need to go back to 1979 didn't you ? .

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« Reply #40 on February 04, 2022, 06:49:20 pm by drfchound »
To start levelling up this government first needs to get back to where it started back in 1979.

Since 2010 the number of emergency food parcels distributed by Trussell Trust food banks has risen from just over 40,000 to well over one and a half million – an increase of 3,900% in just 9 years.

https://www.charity-works.co.uk/food-bank-britain/#:~:text=Since%202010%20the%20number%20of,3%2C900%25%20in%20just%209%20years.

HoC library

Food Banks in the UK

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8585/

You've taken out the years between 1997 and 2010 Sydney .

You did say we need to go back to 1979 didn't you ? .

I can’t imagine why he might have done that?

SydneyRover

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« Reply #41 on February 04, 2022, 07:06:30 pm by SydneyRover »
To start levelling up this government first needs to get back to where it started back in 1979.

Since 2010 the number of emergency food parcels distributed by Trussell Trust food banks has risen from just over 40,000 to well over one and a half million – an increase of 3,900% in just 9 years.

https://www.charity-works.co.uk/food-bank-britain/#:~:text=Since%202010%20the%20number%20of,3%2C900%25%20in%20just%209%20years.

HoC library

Food Banks in the UK

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8585/

You've taken out the years between 1997 and 2010 Sydney .

You did say we need to go back to 1979 didn't you ? .

My mistake Albie. tyke
« Last Edit: February 04, 2022, 08:20:36 pm by SydneyRover »

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Levelling up
« Reply #42 on February 04, 2022, 07:10:50 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Tyke.

There's no point looking at food Bank data from 1997-2010 because food banks barely existed then.

THE biggest success of the Blair and Brown Govts was that they lifted more people out of poverty than any other Govt in our history. It is a stain in the nation that that success has been so massively overturned since 2010.

tyke1962

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« Reply #43 on February 04, 2022, 08:10:55 pm by tyke1962 »
Tyke.

There's no point looking at food Bank data from 1997-2010 because food banks barely existed then.

THE biggest success of the Blair and Brown Govts was that they lifted more people out of poverty than any other Govt in our history. It is a stain in the nation that that success has been so massively overturned since 2010.

I wasn't the one analysing food bank data Billy .

I just observed 13 years that weren't accounted for in Sydney's research .

SydneyRover

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« Reply #44 on February 04, 2022, 08:58:34 pm by SydneyRover »
Levelling up here in Cornwall or atleast parity to what the EU was handing over. Means this EU money average last 10 years , 106 million a year first year Cornwall applied to the initial Community Renewal Fund requesting the maximum 3 million and got 1 million. So 1 million instead of 106 million. Sunak and co said Cornwall would not lose out and so did the local conservative MPs here. Said it would be a mixture of levelling up and replacement EU money. No money has been given to Cornwall for levelling up, not a penny.

Shared Prosperity Fund, which is set to replace the Community Renewal Fund from 2022 has a maximum amount of 400 million going forward a year. For Cornwall to have parity with EU payments before Brexit. They would need roughly 25% of that pot every year. Never going to happen. It's expected to bring in lest than 20 million based on the share Cornwall got for the entire UK as it did from the EU.

So 20 million instead of 106 million a year, how is that levelling up. Already my local leisure centre is closing as has out local ambulance station. It's dire. Especially for those on low incomes who benefited the most from Council services who were struggling prior to Brexit, add the cost of living, the house prices up by 50 % in some areas and you can see why Cornwall is becoming a ghost town of holiday homes.

Must be the same all over the country, lied to our faces and they are still in power.

The forgotten other parts, This headline goes to what you are saying Keith ................. we don't hear much from the pointy bit and I assume many think that it's all lovely and Rick Sein down there.

''The Tories won’t ‘level up’ the north while they’re in thrall to London''

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/04/tories-level-up-north-london-michael-gove

River Don

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« Reply #45 on February 04, 2022, 09:01:38 pm by River Don »
Tyke.

There's no point looking at food Bank data from 1997-2010 because food banks barely existed then.

THE biggest success of the Blair and Brown Govts was that they lifted more people out of poverty than any other Govt in our history. It is a stain in the nation that that success has been so massively overturned since 2010.

There are now more food banks than McDonalds.

Let that sink in.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2022, 09:07:27 pm by River Don »

River Don

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Re: Levelling up
« Reply #46 on February 04, 2022, 09:06:04 pm by River Don »
Are we all ready to listen to the BoE and embrace big real terms wage cuts to keep inflation under control then?

tyke1962

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« Reply #47 on February 04, 2022, 09:16:27 pm by tyke1962 »
There are some massively selective memories going on right now on this topic .

I remember only too well the amount of charity shops that opened in Barnsley town centre and the surrounding villages , Wombwell and Hoyland were and still are full of them .

I remember how popular the second hand market was on Barnsley Market on a Tuesday , there were more people there than on a normal market day .

Funny thing is we had a Labour government at the time .

Funny old world isn't it ?

SydneyRover

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« Reply #48 on February 04, 2022, 09:30:32 pm by SydneyRover »
You didn't open the link I posted yesterday then tyke? look at the graph

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8585/

tyke1962

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« Reply #49 on February 04, 2022, 09:39:46 pm by tyke1962 »
You didn't open the link I posted yesterday then tyke? look at the graph

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8585/

You can put up what you want Sydney , knock yourself out kiddo .

Where as I have lived a life in my town and seen it with my own eyes .

SydneyRover

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« Reply #50 on February 04, 2022, 09:41:15 pm by SydneyRover »
you tories are all the same

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #51 on February 04, 2022, 09:45:20 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Don't give me facts. I've got opinions!

tyke1962

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« Reply #52 on February 04, 2022, 09:55:37 pm by tyke1962 »
Don't give me facts. I've got opinions!

What could be more factual than actually seeing it with your own eyes Billy ?

I don't dispute faith in the markets produces winners .

My concerns aren't ever about the winners who by definition don't need anyone to look out for them .

My concerns are about the losers and will always be so .


SydneyRover

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« Reply #53 on February 04, 2022, 09:59:07 pm by SydneyRover »
As far as food banks go you have false memory syndrome tyke

tyke1962

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« Reply #54 on February 04, 2022, 09:59:59 pm by tyke1962 »
you tories are all the same

It's uncomfortable isn't it but none the less you need to be reminded of it .

You didn't lose the red wall because of Brexit , you lost it way way before that because basically you couldn't give a feck about towns like Barnsley .

That's a fact .

tyke1962

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« Reply #55 on February 04, 2022, 10:01:45 pm by tyke1962 »
As far as food banks go you have false memory syndrome tyke

How would you know ?

SydneyRover

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« Reply #56 on February 04, 2022, 10:03:43 pm by SydneyRover »
because it's all on your say so, unsupported is all

tyke1962

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« Reply #57 on February 04, 2022, 10:17:44 pm by tyke1962 »
because it's all on your say so, unsupported is all

Actually not my say so Sydney .

Take a look at the votes lost from the Labour Party from 97 to 2010 in the red wall towns .


SydneyRover

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« Reply #58 on February 04, 2022, 10:22:05 pm by SydneyRover »
now you are being silly tyke

tyke1962

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« Reply #59 on February 04, 2022, 11:39:04 pm by tyke1962 »
now you are being silly tyke

You've got a competitive vote share currently and in history because you aren't Thatcher/ Major  or Johnson today .

But you've never changed the country in a way that's badly needed in my opinion .

Your complicit in today's shyte show , you've had a massive hand in It .

You aren't the Tories but you need to have a seriously good look at yourselves .

Your the next best thing as in  Crewe have more league points than a in a Rovers kind of way .

The foodbanks won't be subsided , the charity shops and second hand markets will do brisk business .

The Labour Party will be in power .

You'd hardly know the difference other than a credible liar replacing one who is not .




 

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