Let's talk about the Cheltenham game

[Chris Black come back]

We need a keeper of our own, probably two centre backs, probably two central midfielders and without question two central strikers. No spine. As flaccid as a wet tissue.

[LincsRover]

I’m actually looking forward to tomorrow, hopeful rather than confident but have everything firmly crossed that we can kick start our season! 

[since-1969]

  Richie wants to be a good football club manager, if he leaves he would struggle with his present record to get a chance at a decent club again, so self interest suggests he will stay. and we are not a sacking club.
  He will be given every chance to turn around our season, and rightly so as nobody can change anything player wise until January.

SO..,we let this pathetic season gravitate to it natural ending . Wellen has signed 14 players and he says that the job is only 25% done , so he WILL have get rid of some of these players if he’s to grow BUT their on 2 year deals . Makes no sense to keep him after December OR let  him bring in more L2 quality players ready  for the 22/23 season ???

[sha66y]

  Richie wants to be a good football club manager, if he leaves he would struggle with his present record to get a chance at a decent club again, so self interest suggests he will stay. and we are not a sacking club.
  He will be given every chance to turn around our season, and rightly so as nobody can change anything player wise until January.

SO..,we let this pathetic season gravitate to it natural ending . Wellen has signed 14 players and he says that the job is only 25% done , so he WILL have get rid of some of these players if he’s to grow BUT their on 2 year deals . Makes no sense to keep him after December OR let  him bring in more L2 quality players ready  for the 22/23 season ???

If we get rid of Wellens at XMAS time!

What do you anticipate might happen? ( genuinely interested)

[Campsall rover]

  Richie wants to be a good football club manager, if he leaves he would struggle with his present record to get a chance at a decent club again, so self interest suggests he will stay. and we are not a sacking club.
  He will be given every chance to turn around our season, and rightly so as nobody can change anything player wise until January.

SO..,we let this pathetic season gravitate to it natural ending . Wellen has signed 14 players and he says that the job is only 25% done , so he WILL have get rid of some of these players if he’s to grow BUT their on 2 year deals . Makes no sense to keep him after December OR let  him bring in more L2 quality players ready  for the 22/23 season ???

If we get rid of Wellens at XMAS time!

What do you anticipate might happen? ( genuinely interested)

Not expecting a sensible reply to that question from 1969 are you sha66y?

[since-1969]

  Richie wants to be a good football club manager, if he leaves he would struggle with his present record to get a chance at a decent club again, so self interest suggests he will stay. and we are not a sacking club.
  He will be given every chance to turn around our season, and rightly so as nobody can change anything player wise until January.

SO..,we let this pathetic season gravitate to it natural ending . Wellen has signed 14 players and he says that the job is only 25% done , so he WILL have get rid of some of these players if he’s to grow BUT their on 2 year deals . Makes no sense to keep him after December OR let  him bring in more L2 quality players ready  for the 22/23 season ???

If we get rid of Wellens at XMAS time!

What do you anticipate might happen? ( genuinely interested)

It will give time to who ever in January to bring in some experience at the back and a better holding midfielder who help drive the play forward . No one expected what were all being dished up . Wellens has lost his authority ever since Bogle and Williams were publicly vilified and permanently dropped , then couldn’t off load them prohibiting any positive signings to be made . His catalogue of failures and pathetic excuses are clearly taking its toll on performances . His style of management hasn’t to date brought him success and the reasons are their to see that .. he’s out of his depth!!

[steve@dcfd]

Since 1969 he’s signed Knoyle, Williams Rowe Close Hiwula Dodoo on contracts 2 years or above then just for one year Barlow and Gardner who won’t be here next season. The rest are loans who won’t be here. Then Taylor on a three year contract. Anderson and Okenbirhie to extend contracts. So that’s 7 /9 players for next season. Plus any young lads he wants to keep although Ravenhill as 2years. So he said 25% to 30%.

[roversdude]

When are you putting your business plan forward grumpy since 1969

[since-1969]

Since 1969 he’s signed Knoyle, Williams Rowe Close Hiwula Dodoo on contracts 2 years or above then just for one year Barlow and Gardner who won’t be here next season. The rest are loans who won’t be here. Then Taylor on a three year contract. Anderson and Okenbirhie to extend contracts. So that’s 7 /9 players for next season. Plus any young lads he wants to keep although Ravenhill as 2years. So he said 25% to 30%.

SO .. it’s 3 year plan then . That’s this season in L1 then next in L2 and ??

[steve@dcfd]

It will also depend if funds to sign players of quality. Apart from some good loans what gems have we signed since Ferguson left.

[sha66y]

  Richie wants to be a good football club manager, if he leaves he would struggle with his present record to get a chance at a decent club again, so self interest suggests he will stay. and we are not a sacking club.
  He will be given every chance to turn around our season, and rightly so as nobody can change anything player wise until January.

SO..,we let this pathetic season gravitate to it natural ending . Wellen has signed 14 players and he says that the job is only 25% done , so he WILL have get rid of some of these players if he’s to grow BUT their on 2 year deals . Makes no sense to keep him after December OR let  him bring in more L2 quality players ready  for the 22/23 season ???

If we get rid of Wellens at XMAS time!

What do you anticipate might happen? ( genuinely interested)

It will give time to who ever in January to bring in some experience at the back and a better holding midfielder who help drive the play forward . No one expected what were all being dished up . Wellens has lost his authority ever since Bogle and Williams were publicly vilified and permanently dropped , then couldn’t off load them prohibiting any positive signings to be made . His catalogue of failures and pathetic excuses are clearly taking its toll on performances . His style of management hasn’t to date brought him success and the reasons are their to see that .. he’s out of his depth!!

So!
You think we can advertise, interview and appoint a manager throughout January whilst offering only a minimal window of finances and expect the incumbent to identify, offer contracts and actually get the commanding defender and holding midfielder ?

If you look at the time lines and finances being made available, I’m sure you will agree that might be virtually impossible?

[drfchound]

If Wellens was sacked next week and we got a new bloke in the week after he would only have the same players to work with, as well as the same injury list of course.
If the poor run continued he would just blame Wellens.
Would the owners then be confident enough to back the new bloke in the January window?
We are in a big mess and sadly I don’t see us staying up.
With all that in mind I think the said injury list and the lack of enough quality players to pick from means that we are unlikely to have enough to beat Cheltenham.
I would be happy to take a point today even though we certainly need three points.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I see this threads been hijacked too. Can't you just leave it alone and talk about the game?

One of those games for me that we should be looking to win by showing commitment,  a will to work together as a team and put the bodies on the line. Whatever it takes to get a result.

I'm sure we can't help thinking returning players will have an influence in this game and bite us on the bum! If that happens this forum will be even less pleasant than normal.

At the end of the day, it's a game of football, win lose or draw. I have mates to meet, pints to drink, pies or burgers to eat, a nice seat, and 90 mins of the beautiful game to watch!

[drfchound]

DBR, I have added to my post to include comments on todays game.
I hope that is good enough.
TBH there aren’t many threads on here that don’t go off on a tangent at some point.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

DBR, I have added to my post to include comments on todays game.
I hope that is good enough.
TBH there aren’t many threads on here that don’t go off on a tangent at some point.

It was what came before hound so wasn't directed at you.

[mpc123]

I have a really good feeling about today, recently I've not expected to come away with anything, today seems different.

Hopefully it happens!

Let's get behind the boys

[drfchound]

DBR, I have added to my post to include comments on todays game.
I hope that is good enough.
TBH there aren’t many threads on here that don’t go off on a tangent at some point.

It was what came before hound so wasn't directed at you.

Fair enough, but as I said, most threads veer off into something else don’t they.

[DRCraig]

Really big this. Come on Doncaster.

[roversdude]

Looking forward to this match, definitely winnable. We need to get behind them today and try and build the confidence

[Campsall rover]

Seriously we need 2 wins in these 2 home games.

Let’s get right behind the lads today and be that 12th man.
Cheltenham are unlikely to bring more than 400.
So the onus is on our fans to create a decent atmosphere.
It does seriously help the players.

It is almost getting to make or break time. Let’s turn this season round starting today. 

[since-1969]

  Richie wants to be a good football club manager, if he leaves he would struggle with his present record to get a chance at a decent club again, so self interest suggests he will stay. and we are not a sacking club.
  He will be given every chance to turn around our season, and rightly so as nobody can change anything player wise until January.

SO..,we let this pathetic season gravitate to it natural ending . Wellen has signed 14 players and he says that the job is only 25% done , so he WILL have get rid of some of these players if he’s to grow BUT their on 2 year deals . Makes no sense to keep him after December OR let  him bring in more L2 quality players ready  for the 22/23 season ???

If we get rid of Wellens at XMAS time!

What do you anticipate might happen? ( genuinely interested)

It will give time to who ever in January to bring in some experience at the back and a better holding midfielder who help drive the play forward . No one expected what were all being dished up . Wellens has lost his authority ever since Bogle and Williams were publicly vilified and permanently dropped , then couldn’t off load them prohibiting any positive signings to be made . His catalogue of failures and pathetic excuses are clearly taking its toll on performances . His style of management hasn’t to date brought him success and the reasons are their to see that .. he’s out of his depth!!

So!
You think we can advertise, interview and appoint a manager throughout January whilst offering only a minimal window of finances and expect the incumbent to identify, offer contracts and actually get the commanding defender and holding midfielder ?

If you look at the time lines and finances being made available, I’m sure you will agree that might be virtually impossible?

It’s October and there’s plenty of time to draw a list of candidates who are out of work with years of experience and open to coming to a club like DonnY and who have prior knowledge of getting teams promotion. Wellens was appointed as a fall guy , as someone to blame when  L2 football is achieved . I’ve no faith in the believe that everything is being done to avoid relegation , based on the way Wellens has been allowed to run the clubs player recruitment  and  the isolation of player assets ie Bogle and Williams when other pathetic signings  of HIS should  be added to that list .

[Campsall rover]

  Richie wants to be a good football club manager, if he leaves he would struggle with his present record to get a chance at a decent club again, so self interest suggests he will stay. and we are not a sacking club.
  He will be given every chance to turn around our season, and rightly so as nobody can change anything player wise until January.

SO..,we let this pathetic season gravitate to it natural ending . Wellen has signed 14 players and he says that the job is only 25% done , so he WILL have get rid of some of these players if he’s to grow BUT their on 2 year deals . Makes no sense to keep him after December OR let  him bring in more L2 quality players ready  for the 22/23 season ???

If we get rid of Wellens at XMAS time!

What do you anticipate might happen? ( genuinely interested)

It will give time to who ever in January to bring in some experience at the back and a better holding midfielder who help drive the play forward . No one expected what were all being dished up . Wellens has lost his authority ever since Bogle and Williams were publicly vilified and permanently dropped , then couldn’t off load them prohibiting any positive signings to be made . His catalogue of failures and pathetic excuses are clearly taking its toll on performances . His style of management hasn’t to date brought him success and the reasons are their to see that .. he’s out of his depth!!

So!
You think we can advertise, interview and appoint a manager throughout January whilst offering only a minimal window of finances and expect the incumbent to identify, offer contracts and actually get the commanding defender and holding midfielder ?

If you look at the time lines and finances being made available, I’m sure you will agree that might be virtually impossible?

It’s October and there’s plenty of time to draw a list of candidates who are out of work with years of experience and open to coming to a club like DonnY and who have prior knowledge of getting teams promotion. Wellens was appointed as a fall guy , as someone to blame when  L2 football is achieved . I’ve no faith in the believe that everything is being done to avoid relegation , based on the way Wellens has been allowed to run the clubs player recruitment  and  the isolation of player assets ie Bogle and Williams when other pathetic signings  of HIS should  be added to that list .

Your posts are getting more and more far fetched as each one is written.

So RW was appointed to get us relegated because that is what our owners want. That basically is what your saying by the sounds of it.

What a complete load if codswallop.
Your not on the same planet as most of us 1969.  Or are you just a WUM

[roversdude]

FFS 1969 get an appointment booked your GP will be able to help with different medication and maybe counselling

[murham]

Any other day we should beat these but confidence is bottom and that is everything
A draw 0 0
League 2 beckons unfortunately if I’m right
Still think Bogle should take part today.    Big lad as daft as it is

[Campsall rover]

Any other day we should beat these but confidence is bottom and that is everything
A draw 0 0
League 2 beckons unfortunately if I%u2019m right
Still think Bogle should take part today.    Big lad as daft as it is

Curkur is already twice the player Bogle is.  He gives 100% 

So you would rather play someone who gives 30% effort at the most?  I am being generous with that %

[Canadian Rover]

Will be interesting to watch Cukurs movement today. Wellens alluded to he doesn't want him playing the channels.

[mpc123]

He is looking alot better now he is fit but needs that confidence now to start putting away. Dodoo is playing out of position at the moment.

[StocksArmy]

A draw and a performance where we scratch our heads that we havent won is a bare minimum today with their keeper being MOM. Anything else he has to go.

[sha66y]

We are winning.!

[Sulphurite]

Go on rovers!

Cheering you on!

Hopefully you can see it through.