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wilts rover

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Brexit Latest
« on December 18, 2021, 07:46:28 pm by wilts rover »
Hearing Lord Frost has resigned from government and as Brexit negotiator because Johnson instructed him to cave in to the EU demands.

We shall soon see if this is true I suppose.



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BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #1 on December 18, 2021, 07:54:50 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
It's still baffling what credentials he had for such a job.

SydneyRover

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Re: Brexit Latest
« Reply #2 on December 18, 2021, 07:58:28 pm by SydneyRover »
Mail and the express have it.

Not Now Kato

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« Reply #3 on December 18, 2021, 08:19:42 pm by Not Now Kato »

SydneyRover

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« Reply #4 on December 18, 2021, 08:29:18 pm by SydneyRover »
rats deserting a rotten worm eaten hulk?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #5 on December 18, 2021, 08:44:32 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
So apparently Frost is not resigning because of Johnson's Brexit policy. He's resigning because he disagrees with all Johnson's other policies.

Right.

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« Reply #6 on December 18, 2021, 09:03:14 pm by SydneyRover »
Yes, everything else apart from what he has been charged with, the failure of brexit talks.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-minister-lord-frost-resigns-201258078.html

wilts rover

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« Reply #7 on December 18, 2021, 09:25:07 pm by wilts rover »
Frostie the go man...

wilts rover

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« Reply #8 on December 18, 2021, 09:47:46 pm by wilts rover »
Lord Frost's resignation exemplifies a pattern among all the loud sovereignty purists: upon realising that there are difficult trade-offs inherent in their own choices, they pack their bags and leave, blaming others for the self-inflicted mess.

https://twitter.com/AntonSpisak/status/1472295808066281477

SydneyRover

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« Reply #9 on December 18, 2021, 10:10:15 pm by SydneyRover »
yep it's all the fault of those opposed to brexit, who knew?

SydneyRover

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« Reply #10 on December 18, 2021, 11:35:38 pm by SydneyRover »
''oven ready'' maybe goose is cooked is closer to the mark?

Like many are finding, indeed the reality is that you cannot plait shit.

''Brexit minister’s shock resignation leaves Boris Johnson reeling
Lord Frost’s frustrated exit is yet another blow for PM struggling for control of his government''

I imagine he'll be like David Davies, never to be taken seriously again.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/18/brexit-ministers-shock-resignation-leaves-boris-johnson-reeling


Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #11 on December 18, 2021, 11:52:57 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Hearing Lord Frost has resigned from government and as Brexit negotiator because Johnson instructed him to cave in to the EU demands.

We shall soon see if this is true I suppose.

It's the EU demand that the UK realise that it's going to be treated like every other non-EU country instead of thinking they're entitled to special treatment that's the real problem.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #12 on December 18, 2021, 11:57:30 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
It was obvious to anyone who looked at it in 2016 that a Leave vote would cause huge problems for Northern Ireland.

Johnson batted that away as Project Fear.

Then in the 2019 election, he baldly lied about the effect on Northern Ireland of deal he had signed.

Frost has spent 12 months blaming the EU for the problems in Northern Ireland.

And now he's washed his hands of the problem and walked away.

And absolute shit shower they are.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #13 on December 19, 2021, 12:09:27 am by SydneyRover »
And when johnson is inevitably shown the door, there'll be no remorse no looking back, no apologies, nothing, just as much as he brought to the table.

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« Reply #14 on December 19, 2021, 12:10:42 am by Bentley Bullet »
Hearing Lord Frost has resigned from government and as Brexit negotiator because Johnson instructed him to cave in to the EU demands.

We shall soon see if this is true I suppose.

It's the EU demand that the UK realise that it's going to be treated like every other non-EU country instead of thinking they're entitled to special treatment that's the real problem.

I expected exactly what we got! Our net EU contribution was larger than 26 EU nations combined, so I expected the special treatment we provided to other members would be extremely missed when we left.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #15 on December 19, 2021, 12:12:53 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Hearing Lord Frost has resigned from government and as Brexit negotiator because Johnson instructed him to cave in to the EU demands.

We shall soon see if this is true I suppose.

It's the EU demand that the UK realise that it's going to be treated like every other non-EU country instead of thinking they're entitled to special treatment that's the real problem.

I expected exactly what we got! Our net EU contribution was larger than 26 EU nations combined, so I expected the special treatment we provided to other members would be extremely missed when we left.

And the benefit we got from frictionless trade? As a proportion of our contribution to the EU? Any thoughts?

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #16 on December 19, 2021, 12:17:15 am by Bentley Bullet »
Plenty of thoughts BST. Many of them being that we were took as Kitsons.

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« Reply #17 on December 19, 2021, 12:25:30 am by Bentley Bullet »
It's a shame really, BST, that I probably won't be here when I am proved right. I just hope that by then you will have matured enough to admit it.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #18 on December 19, 2021, 12:51:25 am by SydneyRover »
Frost:

''He also expressed his wish that the UK would become a “lightly regulated, low-tax” country''

Sort of like Jersey only marginally bigger, funny he didn't mention the failure to level up.


''Prominent Brexiter Tory Andrew Bridgen called Frost’s exit “a watershed moment”.

He told Times Radio it was a “devastating blow” for the government and Johnson and suggested that many MPs would be considering the PM’s future over Christmas.

Johnson, he tweeted, was “running out of time and out of friends to deliver on the promises and discipline of a true Conservative government”

So we have the Ultra Conservatives bidding farewell to their brexit stalking horse.

A year .......... hmmmm

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #19 on December 19, 2021, 01:19:40 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Plenty of thoughts BST. Many of them being that we were took as Kitsons.
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Aye.

One day it might dawn on you who by.

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« Reply #20 on December 19, 2021, 07:50:18 am by Donnywolf »
Frostie the go man...

Yes ... at least Oven Ready deal is now "de Frosted"

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« Reply #21 on December 19, 2021, 09:10:49 am by mugnapper »
Do you think he’ll be Frostie the Gove man in the Tory leadership campaign?
Or will he stand himself, having done such a wonderful job in his Brexit negotiations?..

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« Reply #22 on December 19, 2021, 09:14:56 am by KeithMyath »
Well I’m happy I had frost to resign before the end of 2021. Couple of £100 in the back pocket. Just need Boris to go in January and Starmer out and Burnham in by end of 2022. Quids in

tyke1962

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« Reply #23 on December 19, 2021, 10:20:38 am by tyke1962 »
Difficult to see how a Tory leadership challenge can get off the ground with the pandemic still affecting so much of the country .

The other thing is the lack of any real contenders , a contender in Tory speak would be someone who can win a GE and nothing more than that .

Almost all the likely candidates have some pretty damaging previous .

They've kicked out all the safe pair of hands moderates .

Having given this some thought after initially thinking the normal Tory strategy is to kick out the failure who takes the failure with them and the new brush sweeps clean I'm not convinced that will work this time .

The Tories are definitely in mid 90's territory and you could argue it's actually worse today .

The Tories always need someone to blame for their own failings and make that stick to whoever it is they want to blame .

I don't see how they can possibly do that today and get away with it .


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« Reply #24 on December 19, 2021, 12:19:38 pm by ravenrover »
Jeremy with the silent C seems to hovering in the background

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #25 on December 19, 2021, 12:32:21 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I wonder if Frost wants to renegotiate the terms of the resignation letter that he wrote?

Filo

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« Reply #26 on December 19, 2021, 12:56:55 pm by Filo »
Jeremy with the silent C seems to hovering in the background

I wonder what he thinks of his brother inciting the nut jobs at the covid protests in London to burn down the office’s of MP’s?

BVB

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« Reply #27 on December 19, 2021, 03:04:43 pm by BVB »
Think Raven is on about Jeremy Hunt there, Filo

Filo

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« Reply #28 on December 19, 2021, 04:15:56 pm by Filo »
Think Raven is on about Jeremy Hunt there, Filo

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Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #29 on December 19, 2021, 06:12:32 pm by Glyn_Wigley »

 

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