Djokovic

[phil old leake]

What an absolute joke.  I could imagine if Cameron Norris had said I’m not getting vaccinated.  I would imagine he’d get a big overdose of Fxxx off tablets

I’m hoping some of the players revolt and refuse to play him

He’s got a medical exemption. He’s openly admitted he’s against vaccination.

It’s his choice but if the rules set out say players need to be vaccinated then he should not be allowed to play

[Draytonian III]

Totally agree

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I don't think it's fair for the rules to say you should be vaccinated personally, it's too discriminatory for my liking.

[Axholme Lion]

I have no choice but to work with people who refuse to be jabbed. I think they are being a bit selfish towards the older members of staff here.

[ravenrover]

Aussie Govt say it's up to their Border Enforcement whether he is allowed into the country never mind the state of Victoria. No Covid pass no valid reason then he's on the next plane home

[GazLaz]

He has a medical cert saying he’s had Covid in the last 6 months hence them allowing him in.

[ravenrover]

That's Victoria State not the actual country

[phil old leake]

Raven so he should be.  He’s taking the mick

[Nudga]

I have no choice but to work with people who refuse to be jabbed. I think they are being a bit selfish towards the older members of staff here.

The only medical practice in history that the failings of the medicine are being blamed on the ones who don't take the medicine.
If your elderly colleagues have been boosted with hope in their arms, why does it matter if someone else hasn't had theirs?
You lot were told last year that the first jab was 100% effective at stopping transmission. You were lied to and your anger is misplaced.

[SydneyRover]

Visa rejected.

[ravenrover]

Seems he will challenge the decision in Aussie court

[SydneyRover]

we should get a loan of patel, haha

[Nudga]

Good old NoVax

[BVB]

I have no choice but to work with people who refuse to be jabbed. I think they are being a bit selfish towards the older members of staff here.

The only medical practice in history that the failings of the medicine are being blamed on the ones who don't take the medicine.
If your elderly colleagues have been boosted with hope in their arms, why does it matter if someone else hasn't had theirs?
You lot were told last year that the first jab was 100% effective at stopping transmission. You were lied to and your anger is misplaced.

Very good Nudga and point taken about the lie(s), of which there were many along the way.

On the other hand, “you lot” were told that chips were being inserted into your blood streams so don’t have the jab.
Were you lied to and your anger misplaced?

The data shows that most now in hospital are unvaccinated. Good enough for me and my family. Of course you don’t have to believe that.
BVB

[BillyStubbsTears]

Absolutely no-one authoritative ever once said the vaccine would be 100% effective at anything, but who cares about truth these days?

[Nudga]

Absolutely no-one authoritative ever once said the vaccine would be 100% effective at anything, but who cares about truth these days?

This was just recently

https://twitter.com/statsjamie/status/1474324159727607809?t=G-4nvFhvkeXBW9uX6aW7MQ&s=19

I will find you where he says 100% effective tomorrow, its a bit late to be trawling through hours of his lies and guff.

[Nudga]

I have no choice but to work with people who refuse to be jabbed. I think they are being a bit selfish towards the older members of staff here.

The only medical practice in history that the failings of the medicine are being blamed on the ones who don't take the medicine.
If your elderly colleagues have been boosted with hope in their arms, why does it matter if someone else hasn't had theirs?
You lot were told last year that the first jab was 100% effective at stopping transmission. You were lied to and your anger is misplaced.

Very good Nudga and point taken about the lie(s), of which there were many along the way.

On the other hand, “you lot” were told that chips were being inserted into your blood streams so don’t have the jab.
Were you lied to and your anger misplaced?

The data shows that most now in hospital are unvaccinated. Good enough for me and my family. Of course you don’t have to believe that.
BVB

You see this is just lazy, and your pissy little slur about f**kin microchips in jabs is getting boring.
I'll say it again for you dullards, I DO NOT THINK THERE ARE 5G MICROCHIPS IN THESE JABS!
Oh and it's 56% of UK admissions for 18+ are vaxxed.
Stats from UKSHA.


This guy seems to think it's 46% unvaxxed with a link to check.

https://twitter.com/statsjamie/status/1478143076308762626?t=o4kiA1M810Fdwqyn3xKkrg&s=19

[phil old leake]

A friend of mine who very nearly died of COVID last year and is suffering the effects of long COVID now has to have monthly check ups in case his heart case floods

He was at the hospital on Christmas Eve having a heart scan and check and he was told by staff that there are fewer omicron sufferers being admitted to intensive care but 80% of those in intensive care are unvaccinated

It’s a disgrace. Idiots being treated in intensive care whilst others with serious illnesses like cancer etc are sometimes struggling to get the right treatment

In my view anyone who really believes their is a government conspiracy to implant trackers in people or who just won’t get the vaccinated should be ashamed of yourselves. You’re no different to someone who drives a car pxxxed

Take yourselves outside somewhere and give your heads a good shake and stop putting everyone else at risk

[redwine]

I bet most of the England cricket team wished they'd had their visas revoked too.

[phil old leake]

So glad the arrogance of the bloke

I know people have private lives but for me it’s simple.  If you’ve got a medical condition that is genuine JUST SAY WHAT IT IS

[BillyStubbsTears]

As Nadal says today, Novax decisions have consequences.

[Filo]

Good on Australia, “we don’t care if you are No1 in the world, our Country our rules, f**k off”

[normal rules]

Can we head hunt some of the Aussie Border Force staff please.
They clearly don’t f**k around.
Just what we need.

[BVB]

I have no choice but to work with people who refuse to be jabbed. I think they are being a bit selfish towards the older members of staff here.

The only medical practice in history that the failings of the medicine are being blamed on the ones who don't take the medicine.
If your elderly colleagues have been boosted with hope in their arms, why does it matter if someone else hasn't had theirs?
You lot were told last year that the first jab was 100% effective at stopping transmission. You were lied to and your anger is misplaced.

Very good Nudga and point taken about the lie(s), of which there were many along the way.

On the other hand, “you lot” were told that chips were being inserted into your blood streams so don’t have the jab.
Were you lied to and your anger misplaced?

The data shows that most now in hospital are unvaccinated. Good enough for me and my family. Of course you don’t have to believe that.
BVB

You see this is just lazy, and your pissy little slur about f**kin microchips in jabs is getting boring.
I'll say it again for you dullards, I DO NOT THINK THERE ARE 5G MICROCHIPS IN THESE JABS!
Oh and it's 56% of UK admissions for 18+ are vaxxed.
Stats from UKSHA.


This guy seems to think it's 46% unvaxxed with a link to check.

https://twitter.com/statsjamie/status/1478143076308762626?t=o4kiA1M810Fdwqyn3xKkrg&s=19

Blimey you’re right - I am dullard.
Clearly remiss of me to slur you with the microchip, and wrong of me to assume that most people in hospital with covid are unvaxxed.

So just to show I have stopped being lazy and done a little research:

Unvaccinated make up a disproportionate number of hospital admissions (45ish %) when they only account for around 20% of the population.

Conversely, the 55ish % of admissions of vaccinated is actually a smaller share of a much larger vaccinated population (80%).

“None of this means that the vaccines are ineffective. There is overwhelming evidence that vaccination makes people far less likely to get seriously ill with Covid. Because the vast majority of the adult population of the UK has been vaccinated against Covid, if even a small proportion of them get seriously ill, it may be enough to outnumber the severe cases which are more common among the unvaccinated.”

Conclusion: unvaccinated as a proportion of the entire population are taking up more valuable NHS resources than vaccinated as a proportion of the entire population.

I draw your attention to the two UKHSA graphs in this article:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/how-many-unvaccinated-people-are-being-admitted-to-hospital-in-england-131305713.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvLnVrLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAK3OzPFcbEY0SGbUsj7AN6FwvbxkLlzc7tB0ewIUBWHBf99Oz1Q4aSzMOERnYu8Rkiz0ncvK80BgBFkcSAg14Rt5lIHFFGQsnsYKEIsAC9IoNiYHww5p1mK-8sYiz7lEiaA96od-qLx9c5uX9Z1qgMmBwbS_AlUtNj6_z82JGW5U

And also this article is worth a read.
https://fullfact.org/health/unvaccinated-icu-channel4-icnarc/

All this before Omicron has kicked in as well.

Cheers
BVB

[phil old leake]

BVB I think your wrong. I think the unvaccinated make up about 80% of hospital admissions endangering the I’ll who have not acted irresponsibly

[BVB]

Well that’s what I thought Phil until Nudga got back to me as a lazy dullard.
So am I reading the data and conclusions wrongly in the links I provided?

Or. as I hint, has the data changed since mid-December and Omicron kicked in?

Happy to take new facts / info on board
BVB

[BVB]

Good on Australia, “we don’t care if you are No1 in the world, our Country our rules, f**k off”

I think Oz is correct to enforce the rules, but having listened to an Aussie journalist on tv this morning his view was that Morrison is suddenly jumping on this to improve his standing in forthcoming elections…
Politicians eh?

[sha66y]

Taking  figures from the governments own websites doesn’t fill me with hope, they are constantly inaccurate and fear inducing for the chaff!

Roll tha sleeves up, get artside and start scoffing this omricon till it’s shat out and flushed away….

Or don’t! ……

[phil old leake]

My figures came from a workmate who had been in hospital with follow up treatment for long COVID.  They are the figures he was told by staff in Belfast
It might be different throughout the UK

[normal rules]

There is a suspicion he lied on his visa declaring he had covid within last 6 months, when in fact it was 19 months ago.