Djokovic

[normal rules]

Can you imagine if any of us had made an error on our visa application? I don’t think any court, in any country, would be bending over backwards to accommodate us.
Get him deported. Let him appeal it from Serbia.

[phil old leake]

Agreed he’s taking the Pxxx with everything to do with this

Hope he gets a 3 yr visa ban

[normal rules]

I can’t see him receiving warm applause in France either come the french open given the govt there are also looking to tighten restrictions for un vax.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Being dragged out a bit is this saga. Crikey. All because someone doesn't feel the need to have pharmaceuticals forced into his body for a virus that those who have chosen to do so can still pass on in equal measure.

There's only one nutjob in this sorry state of affairs, and he's not Serbian.

[BillyStubbsTears]

CDH.

Once again, wearily, people who have been vaccinated don't transmit the virus as efficiently as those who refuse to be vaccinated.

And Djokovic is being deported for lying on his visa form.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

So what if the vaccinated spread just a teensy weensy ickle bit less virus than those who are unvaccinated.

Hardly worth changing how the world lives forever for the sake of it is there?

[phil old leake]

I really don’t see why this is been played out like it has been

Surely there are rules/regulations about this. I’m quite sure if it was a normal member of the public this situation would have been dealt with in a normal efficient manner and he would have been refused entry
If he has lied on his form I wonder if there should be some criminal investigation
Who does he think he is

[SydneyRover]

The problem is normal everyday people cannot afford to lose time and money fighting it.

[BillyStubbsTears]

So what if the vaccinated spread just a teensy weensy ickle bit less virus than those who are unvaccinated.

Hardly worth changing how the world lives forever for the sake of it is there?

It's over 50%. That has a massive effect on the spread of a virus that doubles every 2-3 days unmitigated.

If you have 1000 cases at the start of the month and the doubling time is 2 days, by the end of the month you have 1 million cases. If you increase the doubling time to 5 days, by the end of the month you have fewer than 70,000 cases.

Given that there's currently one death for every 300 positive cases, that's the difference between a couple of hundred deaths or several thousand.

Simple maths. People getting vaccinated protect themselves a little bit. But they protect many, many more other people. Which is why it's important not to give in to an arrogant liar like Djokovic.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Over 50%?

So 51%? 97%?

What?

[Dagenham Rover]

Lost his appeal

[belton rover]

Lost his appeal

A1 or M1?

[Branton Red]

Well done Australia!

[normal rules]

Novax loses appeal.

Freedom bird back to Belgrade booked. Do not pass go. Don’t return in next 3 yrs.

[phil old leake]

So glad he lost it. So glad the Aussies saw sense

I just hope they uphold the 3 yr ban if there is one

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Banned from entering a country to play tennis simply for not having a vaccine for what is now essentially the sniffles.

Astounding.

[normal rules]

I think you will find the deportation is due to dishonesty on visa first and foremost. His vaccination status is merely a sideshow.
Then There is the question of his positive test in December which is in doubt itself.
The deportation law is Aus automatically bans him now for 3 yrs.
The deportation is part of the sanction for not meeting entry requirements. The three year ban is basically a preventative measure from it happening again, within 3 yrs.

I sincerely hope Novax considers his situation in the global standing he has as an elite sportsperson.
He has a real opportunity here to make a positive stand. Realise the error of his judgement, get vaccinated and become part of the solution , not the problem.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

He opted for dishonesty on his Visa due to the dumbass Aussies requiring a vaccine for a cold to enter the country. Although i agree, by trying to con his way in he deserves all he gets. He should have actually made a point by flat refusing to take part in the first place and not complying with the Aussies despot tinpot dictators lunatic rules requiring him to be jabbed for an illness now less dangerous than influenza.

[normal rules]

First player to be knocked out of a Grand slam for missing just two shots.

[ravenrover]

Wonder if for the next tournement we find that Novax suddenly has 2nd thoughts and provides Serbian proof of Vax

[phil old leake]

The best thing now for me is for Nadal to win if A Murray or another Brit doesn’t

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Wonder if for the next tournement we find that Novax suddenly has 2nd thoughts and provides Serbian proof of Vax

I think if he wants to travel around the world, a jab is necessary sadly. I'd lose all respect for him if he caved in just so he could facilitate this.

A bit like my kids friends parents. They are a bit middle class and go on holidays all over the shop. Peru, America, frequent trips to Europe. They've only got their 12 year old daughter jabbed so that they don't miss out on travel.

Personally i'd rather miss out on travel than put my child at unnecessary risk from an emergency use vaccine that they don't even need anyway.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

BBC are great aren't they?

Alongside a photo of Djokovic:

'The unvaccinated tennis star gets a flight out of Melbourne airport after losing his Visa challenge'

Helping to highlight the fact that he's unvaccinated.

What an absolute heinous crime Novak. Shame on you.

[normal rules]

The best thing now for me is for Nadal to win if A Murray or another Brit doesn’t

I don’t buy into the whole Murray thing Phil.
He is a jock.
They would not celebrate it if it was the other way round.
Tennis should be like football. You are English or Scottish.
Certain people in the uk only celebrate it because we have no English Tennis players currently to shout about.
And I have my family roots very deeply set north of the wall.

[normal rules]

Wonder if for the next tournement we find that Novax suddenly has 2nd thoughts and provides Serbian proof of Vax

I think if he wants to travel around the world, a jab is necessary sadly. I'd lose all respect for him if he caved in just so he could facilitate this.

A bit like my kids friends parents. They are a bit middle class and go on holidays all over the shop. Peru, America, frequent trips to Europe. They've only got their 12 year old daughter jabbed so that they don't miss out on travel.

Personally i'd rather miss out on travel than put my child at unnecessary risk from an emergency use vaccine that they don't even need anyway.

Whilst I understand your viewpoint CDH, I firmly believe Novax would gain very much more respect globally for changing his stance on vaccines that choosing to opt out.
Starting with a very substantial majority of the population of Australia.
If he got vax Ed, I could see a situation where he could be allowed to compete in their Open in 2023. He would receive a very different welcome if this were the case.
Mind you, I think the Aussies would need video evidence of him having received his jabs. I don’t trust Serbia as a country as far as I could throw it. They would just fudge his vaccine passport. Because he has that level of power and influence there.

[ravenrover]

Fudge his vaccine passport? The very idea! ............of course they would if he wanted it
My point exactly

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Wonder if for the next tournement we find that Novax suddenly has 2nd thoughts and provides Serbian proof of Vax

I think if he wants to travel around the world, a jab is necessary sadly. I'd lose all respect for him if he caved in just so he could facilitate this.

A bit like my kids friends parents. They are a bit middle class and go on holidays all over the shop. Peru, America, frequent trips to Europe. They've only got their 12 year old daughter jabbed so that they don't miss out on travel.

Personally i'd rather miss out on travel than put my child at unnecessary risk from an emergency use vaccine that they don't even need anyway.

Whilst I understand your viewpoint CDH, I firmly believe Novax would gain very much more respect globally for changing his stance on vaccines that choosing to opt out.
Starting with a very substantial majority of the population of Australia.
If he got vax Ed, I could see a situation where he could be allowed to compete in their Open in 2023. He would receive a very different welcome if this were the case.
Mind you, I think the Aussies would need video evidence of him having received his jabs. I don’t trust Serbia as a country as far as I could throw it. They would just fudge his vaccine passport. Because he has that level of power and influence there.

His stance on the vaccine is that he doesn't want one and doesn't like being victimised and discriminated against because of this fact.

Globally, if people can't understand and respect this then he's doing the right thing.

He's in a minority of people who respect freedom of choice and bodily autonomy. As if that's an evil crime.

[phil old leake]

Colin not a crime in any way but you make choices in life and live with the consequences
No sympathy from me

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Colin not a crime in any way but you make choices in life and live with the consequences
No sympathy from me

So you are for forced medical interventions then?

He hasn't got a choice. He has to have the vaccine or be denied basic fundamental human rights to be able to participate in society across increasing numbers of countries around the world. That isn't choice. It is dictatorial discrimination.

[DonnyOsmond]

Banned from entering a country to play tennis simply for not having a vaccine for what is now essentially the sniffles.

Astounding.

I'm no scientist but have you thought that might be to do with the vaccines/boosters?