Djokovic

[phil old leake]

I stick by my previous remark. He knew the score and for me the worst thing he did was to be economical with the truth.  Why tell lies

[phil old leake]

Australia already going weak suggesting that the 3 yr visa ban might be shortened

It wouldn’t be shortened for the average man in the street let’s hope they don’t get weak

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[ravenrover]

Looks like he wont be allowed to play in France either full vax, no exceptions

[drfchound]

I bet he can play at Wimbledon.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

I bet he can play at Wimbledon.

Indeed. We can lead Europe and show them the way to treating people equally and show what a tolerant, open society we are regardless of vaccine status. A big opportunity for Bozo i feel if he takes this stance and goes against the whole of Europe with regards vaccine passports.

[tommy toes]

He should play for the England cricket team.
Took Australia two weeks to get him out.

[phil old leake]

Colin I’m sorry I have to disagree with you. Why should we allow him to play in a tournament in this country putting others at risk

It’s a big no from me. I hope Wimbledon insist on vaccines

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Colin I’m sorry I have to disagree with you. Why should we allow him to play in a tournament in this country putting others at risk

It’s a big no from me. I hope Wimbledon insist on vaccines

How is he putting others at risk? If he is then vaccinated players are also putting others at risk.

[phil old leake]

Are you saying he should be vaccinated Colin

If so I misunderstood your comments if your supporting him playing unvaccinated then how is he not putting people at risk

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Are you saying he should be vaccinated Colin

If so I misunderstood your comments if your supporting him playing unvaccinated then how is he not putting people at risk

Because vaccinated players (people) also spread the virus Phil. So an unvaccinated Djokovic is a risk but then so is a vaccinated Andy Murray for example.

[phil old leake]

Colin are you an anti the vaccination then
I see your point but my understanding is that the risk is much lower if you’re vaccinated

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Colin are you an anti the vaccination then
I see your point but my understanding is that the risk is much lower if you’re vaccinated

I'm not anti vaccination. I am for children but for adults, they can do what they like. Both vaxxed and unvaxxed should be treated equally and no divisions created. The divisions that are being created from what i can see are from those who are pro vaccine.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Are you saying he should be vaccinated Colin

If so I misunderstood your comments if your supporting him playing unvaccinated then how is he not putting people at risk

Because vaccinated players (people) also spread the virus Phil. So an unvaccinated Djokovic is a risk but then so is a vaccinated Andy Murray for example.

Once again (although I get that it is pointless because you have a filter that stops this message getting into you brain) vaccinated people have a much, much lower transmissibility than unvaccinated people. And this is massively important with a virus that spreads exponentially if unmitigated. If you don't engage with that, you have chosen to be ignorant and to instead peddle a line that has, is and will continue to result in thousands upon thousands of avoidable deaths.

Your choice.

[phil old leake]

Colin you really are a rude ignorant man and arrogant with it

I thought this forum was for adults but obviously not

Disagreeing with you makes my opinion less worthy it seems Dr Colin

Thanks for the information. I assume you’re medically trained and an expert in COVID and that’s why JVT has stepped aside to allow you to continue his work and guide the general public to safety

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Colin you really are a rude ignorant man and arrogant with it

I thought this forum was for adults but obviously not

Disagreeing with you makes my opinion less worthy it seems Dr Colin

Thanks for the information. I assume you’re medically trained and an expert in COVID and that’s why JVT has stepped aside to allow you to continue his work and guide the general public to safety

Wow. Ok. Can't find anywhere where i said you're opinion was less worthy. You called me an anti vaxxer and then have the gall to say that i'm ignorant! I was simply answering your questions as best i could.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Are you saying he should be vaccinated Colin

If so I misunderstood your comments if your supporting him playing unvaccinated then how is he not putting people at risk

Because vaccinated players (people) also spread the virus Phil. So an unvaccinated Djokovic is a risk but then so is a vaccinated Andy Murray for example.

Once again (although I get that it is pointless because you have a filter that stops this message getting into you brain) vaccinated people have a much, much lower transmissibility than unvaccinated people. And this is massively important with a virus that spreads exponentially if unmitigated. If you don't engage with that, you have chosen to be ignorant and to instead peddle a line that has, is and will continue to result in thousands upon thousands of avoidable deaths.

Your choice.

I don't have any such magical filter BST. I accept that the virus is very slightly reduced, however, this is not a reason to treat people differently and we can't change how society works and lives on the basis that a vaccinated person spreads a virus a bit less. IMO. Just have to accept people as they come. Vaxxed or not. Avoid people if you're that bothered man.

[phil old leake]

Colin I think you should actually read what I said and not what you wanted me to have said

I asked the question

Colin are you an anti the vaccination then
I see your point but my understanding is that the risk is much lower if you’re vaccinated

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Phil , you are quite right.

Being vaccinated significantly reduces the transmissibility of it. This is a medically proven fact. And fully justifies why governments , across Europe, are starting to take measures to protect people . Even if that means discriminating against non vax.

On planet CDH though, “significantly” becomes “very slightly”. It’s possibly his way of justifying not giving a flying f**k about it.

[phil old leake]

Normal just what I thought.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/amp/

Some people obviously know more than the scientists

[mugnapper]

BBC News - Novak Djokovic: Doubts over timing of Covid test
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/59999541
Hmmm. Almost like there's a hint of a fiddle going on.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Who'd have thought it?

[phil old leake]

Who would of thought it

There’ll still be some that are vehemently supportive of him

If he had (if) I hope they come down on him like a ton of bricks and give him a proper ban

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

I've heard that Djokovic is looking at getting the vaccine.

Instead of sticking to his principles like some of the NHS refuseniks, he is going to cave in.

He's got enough money. Retiring from tennis isn't that big a deal for him. He's not exactly at the start of his career.

Can't wait to see what he does. Probably another huge hypocrite on the cards.

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I wouldn’t believe it unless I physically gave him it myself.
Serbia, as a country are bent to the cause.
He has the power there and the influence to make this happen.
And go public with his intention to make it look legit.
I would not trust him as far as I could throw him.
His whole team and himself have already proven themselves to be dishonest.
He is a bit like Boris . Damage done I’m afraid.