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DonnyNoel

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #30 on January 08, 2022, 06:18:26 pm by DonnyNoel »
We are f**ked, at least last time we went down we had Ferguson who was capable of building a squad and attracting good players as much as he should have done better on the pitch. I dont see anyone at the club that is capable of building a strong squad for next season.

That could be the really worrying thing - we managed to somehow get relegated a few years ago but still had the likes of Copps and Marquis. This lot won't bounce back.



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Padge_DRFC

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #31 on January 08, 2022, 06:20:39 pm by Padge_DRFC »
I predict we're going to be a midtable league 2 team for some years.

silent majority

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« Reply #32 on January 08, 2022, 06:22:15 pm by silent majority »
I predict we're going to be a midtable league 2 team for some years.

Based on what exactly?

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #33 on January 08, 2022, 06:23:23 pm by ChrisBx »
I predict we're going to be a midtable league 2 team for some years.

Based on what exactly?

I don't necessarily agree, however based on our current trajectory it's hardly an outrageous prediction, is it?

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #34 on January 08, 2022, 06:25:23 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #35 on January 08, 2022, 06:26:01 pm by Chris Black come back »
I’m not signed up to any of the conspiracy theories but it is a mystery how a club with a fantastic stadium for lower league level, stability of ownership and top half League One budget will now have been relegated to the bottom tier twice in six seasons. The above doesn’t give you a right to be in League One but you’d have to work hard to make these advantages into a relegation fodder side. It’s a mystery to which I don’t know the answer, but we’ve filled half the ledger by having a stable club but the other half someone has walked in the room and crapped all over the page.

silent majority

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #36 on January 08, 2022, 06:26:08 pm by silent majority »
I predict we're going to be a midtable league 2 team for some years.

Based on what exactly?

I don't necessarily agree, however based on our current trajectory it's hardly an outrageous prediction, is it?

But even a prediction has to based on something doesn't it?

So, I'm just trying to find out why we would be a mid-table Lg2 side for years to come.

colincramb

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #37 on January 08, 2022, 06:28:17 pm by colincramb »
I predict we're going to be a midtable league 2 team for some years.

Based on what exactly?

Based on the absolute malaise that has set in at this club SM. There’s currently no hope of even winning a game, never mind obtaining the 80+ points in a season we would need for promotion

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #38 on January 08, 2022, 06:28:24 pm by DRFCSouth »
I predict we're going to be a midtable league 2 team for some years.
Agreed. Some can't see the wood for the trees.

coventryrover

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #39 on January 08, 2022, 06:29:13 pm by coventryrover »
I predict we're going to be a midtable league 2 team for some years.
  Based on the current squad Silent
  We all know it's not good enough for top l2

Based on what exactly?

I don't necessarily agree, however based on our current trajectory it's hardly an outrageous prediction, is it?

But even a prediction has to based on something doesn't it?

So, I'm just trying to find out why we would be a mid-table Lg2 side for years to come.

Donnybax

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #40 on January 08, 2022, 06:29:49 pm by Donnybax »
I predict we're going to be a midtable league 2 team for some years.

Based on what exactly?

I don't necessarily agree, however based on our current trajectory it's hardly an outrageous prediction, is it?

But even a prediction has to based on something doesn't it?

So, I'm just trying to find out why we would be a mid-table Lg2 side for years to come.
I think this current squad wouldn’t be above 15th in league 2. That means it’s going to need an almighty rebuild. We did that under Ferguson, however our recruitment under the current regime has been abysmal. So I don’t think it’s a wild thing to say we will be a mid table league 2 club in the coming years.

silent majority

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« Reply #41 on January 08, 2022, 06:32:15 pm by silent majority »
We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own

ChrisBx

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #42 on January 08, 2022, 06:33:30 pm by ChrisBx »
We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own

Budgets change though. Like how our budget supposedly went from top 6 to 14th over time...

River Don

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #43 on January 08, 2022, 06:33:54 pm by River Don »
Yeah,

Basically we're back in sack the board territory...

But there still is no answer to the question, what next?

silent majority

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« Reply #44 on January 08, 2022, 06:34:22 pm by silent majority »
I see most people are looking at the team that's currently turning out for us, but that's not the team that will be with us next season is it?

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« Reply #45 on January 08, 2022, 06:34:36 pm by Chris Black come back »
After Ferguson had relegated us to League Two, the side he put out in the first game of the season (away at Accrington, which we lost) was:

1   (G)   R Etheridge
6   (D)   A Butler
8   (D)   R Calder
12   (D)   M Lund
24   (D)   N Mason
10   (M)   T Rowe
16   (M)   J Houghton
17   (M)   M Blair
26   (M)   J Coppinger
9   (F)   J Marquis
11   (F)   A Williams

Filo

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #46 on January 08, 2022, 06:35:06 pm by Filo »
We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own


Thats assuming they all have n’t got relegation clauses in their contract

silent majority

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« Reply #47 on January 08, 2022, 06:36:17 pm by silent majority »
We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own

Budgets change though. Like how our budget supposedly went from top 6 to 14th over time...

Strangely enough I was sat in a supporters board meeting this morning and we went through the contingencies. If we do end up in LG2 we'll be fine with the current revenue streams.


Padge_DRFC

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #48 on January 08, 2022, 06:36:35 pm by Padge_DRFC »
I predict we're going to be a midtable league 2 team for some years.

Based on what exactly?

I don't necessarily agree, however based on our current trajectory it's hardly an outrageous prediction, is it?

But even a prediction has to based on something doesn't it?

So, I'm just trying to find out why we would be a mid-table Lg2 side for years to come.

Based on the fact this shambles is going down and nobody in charge is capable of turning it around with the click of a finger.

Deluded if you think it's going to be easy to just go straight back up. Look at Bradford.

silent majority

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« Reply #49 on January 08, 2022, 06:36:51 pm by silent majority »
We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own


Thats assuming they all have n’t got relegation clauses in their contract

They haven't.

ChrisBx

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« Reply #50 on January 08, 2022, 06:37:19 pm by ChrisBx »
We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own

Budgets change though. Like how our budget supposedly went from top 6 to 14th over time...

Strangely enough I was sat in a supporters board meeting this morning and we went through the contingencies. If we do end up in LG2 we'll be fine with the current revenue streams.

Define "fine".

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« Reply #51 on January 08, 2022, 06:39:19 pm by Chris Black come back »
Bostock is out of contract this summer, while nobody knows definitively whether Fejiri is or is not - presuming he is still not injured next season.

silent majority

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #52 on January 08, 2022, 06:39:29 pm by silent majority »
I predict we're going to be a midtable league 2 team for some years.

Based on what exactly?

I don't necessarily agree, however based on our current trajectory it's hardly an outrageous prediction, is it?

But even a prediction has to based on something doesn't it?

So, I'm just trying to find out why we would be a mid-table Lg2 side for years to come.

Based on the fact this shambles is going down and nobody in charge is capable of turning it around with the click of a finger.

Deluded if you think it's going to be easy to just go straight back up. Look at Bradford.

But I'm not deluded, my opinion is based on looking at the figures, assessing where we'd fit in the financial structure and looking at the players, who are currently not playing, but are contracted for next season.

That's not being deluded, that's just looking at things objectively.

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« Reply #53 on January 08, 2022, 06:39:46 pm by RoversAlias »
Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

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« Reply #54 on January 08, 2022, 06:40:01 pm by silent majority »
Bostock is out of contract this summer, while nobody knows definitively whether Fejiri is or is not - presuming he is still not injured next season.

The club have the option if they wish to take it.

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Re: It’s going to take some comeback
« Reply #55 on January 08, 2022, 06:40:18 pm by Donnybax »
I see most people are looking at the team that's currently turning out for us, but that's not the team that will be with us next season is it?

but that’s the the thing isn’t it. That means putting faith in our recruitment team, which most just can’t do. This season has been called a rebuild season and it couldn’t have been any more of a failure. Next season is going to be called exactly the same so why would it be different.

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« Reply #56 on January 08, 2022, 06:40:37 pm by Retdon1 »
We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own


Bostock, Okinbiri and John are all out of contract this summer arnt they ?

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« Reply #57 on January 08, 2022, 06:41:32 pm by NickDRFC »
We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own


Thats assuming they all have n’t got relegation clauses in their contract

They haven't.


We’ve heard before about how hard it is to keep hold of players who don’t want to be here (Marquis, Whiteman). If our better players are desperate to leave (and who could blame them) will it really matter whether they have release clauses or not?

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« Reply #58 on January 08, 2022, 06:41:54 pm by Chris Black come back »
Bostock and John are out of contract this summer. Fejiri apparently we have an option to extend for a year this summer.

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« Reply #59 on January 08, 2022, 06:42:23 pm by Padge_DRFC »
We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own


Bostock, Okinbiri and John are all out of contract this summer arnt they ?

Get rid of the first 2.

 

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