It’s going to take some comeback

[Filo]

There is no way on this earth that Bostock is going to be playing in League Two.

I do not want to see anyone near a Rovers shirt next season that is not prepared to walk through a brick wall for the team.
Bostock does not give me the impression he would do that. I do not want to see nancy pansy footballers I want to see blood and guts.
A team spirit, a will to win, a never say die attitude. All the things we do not have this season.

Massive clear out in the summer. Most of this lot are a disgrace. 3 of them I do not know how they can possibly put professional footballer on their CV.  Nothing professional out there today. Total sham. A disgrace,
And total insult to the people who spend their hard earned money to go and watch them.

Never been so disheartened after a match as I have been today. We are now officially relegated as there is no way this bunch of players will get another 14 points this season let alone the 32/33 we probably will need.
In fact we could be almost as bad as 97/98 now there is a thought. Yes that bad.

Rant over from one very disillusioned Rovers supporter.

Bostock got his injury making a blood and guts tackle

He is a waste of space in a team fighting for its league status. Might be ok  with the right players around him as a luxury player in a winning team.
I would not want him in the trenches with me. Made about 3/4 tackles all season.

He’s the only player in the squad that can retain possession, the rest just lump it up in a panic

[Cramby10]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

because this seasons “rebuild” has been so poor. Next seasons is going to be an even greater task and it’s just difficult to trust they’ll get it right

I'm going to end up repeating myself here but we have quite a number of decent players who are contracted to us beyond this season. It shouldn't be a total rebuild (If we get relegated that is)

with the greatest of respect, having a number of players in contract next season is really no good thing. The players we have are horrid. Awful. Even the injured ones that we keep telling ourselves are going to come out of the treatment room and ride to our rescue are ordinary at best. Let’s not forget, they were part of last seasons capitulation. I wouldn’t shed a tear if we got rid of the lot.

[Campsall rover]

There is no way on this earth that Bostock is going to be playing in League Two.

I do not want to see anyone near a Rovers shirt next season that is not prepared to walk through a brick wall for the team.
Bostock does not give me the impression he would do that. I do not want to see nancy pansy footballers I want to see blood and guts.
A team spirit, a will to win, a never say die attitude. All the things we do not have this season.

Massive clear out in the summer. Most of this lot are a disgrace. 3 of them I do not know how they can possibly put professional footballer on their CV.  Nothing professional out there today. Total sham. A disgrace,
And total insult to the people who spend their hard earned money to go and watch them.

Never been so disheartened after a match as I have been today. We are now officially relegated as there is no way this bunch of players will get another 14 points this season let alone the 32/33 we probably will need.
In fact we could be almost as bad as 97/98 now there is a thought. Yes that bad.

Rant over from one very disillusioned Rovers supporter.

Bostock got his injury making a blood and guts tackle

He is a waste of space in a team fighting for its league status. Might be ok  with the right players around him as a luxury player in a winning team.
I would not want him in the trenches with me. Made about 3/4 tackles all season.

He’s the only player in the squad that can retain possession, the rest just lump it up in a panic

Filo he is a luxury.
Not been fully fit for us since he signed. Incapable of playing 3/4 consecutive games. Now injured long term.

My opinion differs to yours and many others on Bostock. 

[Sammy Chung was King]

Love to see Aaron Morley from Rochdale, they’ve had two bids accepted for two players left out of their latest squad. Jake Beesley and Morley left out of squad. Beesley thought to be going to Blackpool.

[dickos1]

We’ve 22 games to go,
Nonsense to suggest the season is over

[Rovers91]

22 games to go but the performances are getting worse, if we cant beat Morecambe and Fleetwood in relegation 6 pointers we ain't a chance in this next run of games. I think by time this next run of games are over we will be at least 18 points adrift.

[colincramb]

We’ve 22 games to go,
Nonsense to suggest the season is over

Have you even looked at our next 6 fixtures. If you are so confident, you tell us where any points in those games come from? This from a team that just squandered a 3-0 lead at half time against a relegation rival and who could only muster 1 shot on target in 90mins against fleetwood f**king town. You are just trying to be different, aren’t you?

[Lesonthewest]

There is no way on this earth that Bostock is going to be playing in League Two.

I do not want to see anyone near a Rovers shirt next season that is not prepared to walk through a brick wall for the team.
Bostock does not give me the impression he would do that. I do not want to see nancy pansy footballers I want to see blood and guts.
A team spirit, a will to win, a never say die attitude. All the things we do not have this season.

Massive clear out in the summer. Most of this lot are a disgrace. 3 of them I do not know how they can possibly put professional footballer on their CV.  Nothing professional out there today. Total sham. A disgrace,
And total insult to the people who spend their hard earned money to go and watch them.

Never been so disheartened after a match as I have been today. We are now officially relegated as there is no way this bunch of players will get another 14 points this season let alone the 32/33 we probably will need.
In fact we could be almost as bad as 97/98 now there is a thought. Yes that bad.

Rant over from one very disillusioned Rovers supporter.

Bostock got his injury making a blood and guts tackle

He is a waste of space in a team fighting for its league status. Might be ok  with the right players around him as a luxury player in a winning team.
I would not want him in the trenches with me. Made about 3/4 tackles all season.

He’s the only player in the squad that can retain possession, the rest just lump it up in a panic

Filo he is a luxury.
Not been fully fit for us since he signed. Incapable of playing 3/4 consecutive games. Now injured long term.

My opinion differs to yours and many others on Bostock. 

My opinion is he is our best midfielder, ran the show first half at Hillsborough, our best player at home to MK Don's, played really well v Pompey, he just needs to have better players around him. To say he has made around 3 or 4 tackles all season is just silly.

[colincramb]

Bostock is technically on a different planet to most of the players in this squad. It isn’t his fault he has to play with carthorses. If we had the foresight to put the right players around him, he’d be up there with the best midfielder players in this league

[RugbyRover]

Bostock is technically on a different planet to most of the players in this squad. It isn’t his fault he has to play with carthorses. If we had the foresight to put the right players around him, he’d be up there with the best midfielder players in this league

spot on.

I remember Gerry Daly suffered in the same way when he played for us.

[Bailey Vickerage]

Bostock is technically on a different planet to most of the players in this squad. It isn’t his fault he has to play with carthorses. If we had the foresight to put the right players around him, he’d be up there with the best midfielder players in this league

agree 100%, no coincidence either that Galbraiths performance levels have dropped off since Bostocks injury as he allowed Galbraith to go further forward whereas now he’s having to do bostocks job and dictate the play from deep.

[Sammy Chung was King]

It’s not what he can’t do, you concentrate on what he can do. He is a good passer of the ball, his technique is in another league to our other players. You get players around him to get him the ball.

[dickos1]

We’ve 22 games to go,
Nonsense to suggest the season is over

Have you even looked at our next 6 fixtures. If you are so confident, you tell us where any points in those games come from? This from a team that just squandered a 3-0 lead at half time against a relegation rival and who could only muster 1 shot on target in 90mins against fleetwood f**king town. You are just trying to be different, aren’t you?

Whether I’m confident or not is irrelevent, I’m stating the fact that there’s 22 games to go, and nobody knows how the season will pan out with new signings and players returning.
So instead of trying to predict what’s going to happen why not just get behind them and see where we end up

[Colin C No.3]

We’ve 22 games to go,
Nonsense to suggest the season is over

Have you even looked at our next 6 fixtures. If you are so confident, you tell us where any points in those games come from? This from a team that just squandered a 3-0 lead at half time against a relegation rival and who could only muster 1 shot on target in 90mins against fleetwood f**king town. You are just trying to be different, aren’t you?

Whether I’m confident or not is irrelevent, I’m stating the fact that there’s 22 games to go, and nobody knows how the season will pan out with new signings and players returning.
So instead of trying to predict what’s going to happen why not just get behind them and see where we end up

With all due respect dickos, you’re predicting we’re going to stay up.

The majority of forum posters are behind the team & IF a miracle happens & we are able to bring in players that are able to hit the ground running, can galvanise this squad of underachiever’s (I’m being as kind as I can here) & we are able to ‘scramble over the line’, brilliant.

You’re right, we have 22 games & 66 points to play for but again with respect you/we don’t know what players GM has ‘lined up’ therefore we won’t truly know until we’ve seen them in action over the next half a dozen games, starting with high flying Wigan on Saturday, now wouldn’t an unlikely win on Saturday be a great start however, we’d need to follow that up with an away point at MK Dons & two more home victories against Plymouth & Rotherham to REALLY have any hope or sense of a ‘revival’.

That’s as optimistic as I can make it.

Another loss on Saturday & away at MKD followed by a meagre 1 point from our two home games coupled with continued poor performances & I think even you would have to throw the towel in regarding Lg1 survival.

That’s not to say we don’t continue to support the team & more importantly the club, we just do so with an eye on next season.

There’s nothing wrong with blind faith dickos, but there’s a heck of a lot of ifs, buts & maybe’s in there.

Never the less, I salute you.

[jmt23]

Im with Dickos - we might not have the best team/squad we have ever had but we have to help them get through it, and who knows. At the moment there is a large group not helping, and I understand their frustration, but it is not helping anyone.

Back the club, the team and each player, and lets see where some positivity gets us.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Going back to Bostock, good footballers should never be seen as a luxury. Get eleven of them and you have a chance.

[steve@dcfd]

Bostock is technically on a different planet to most of the players in this squad. It isn’t his fault he has to play with carthorses. If we had the foresight to put the right players around him, he’d be up there with the best midfielder players in this league

I don’t think he’s available again until March therefore we need players now to hopefully get points on the board so when he is fit he can use his skills I believe further forward to have the push at the last games of the season.

[Chris Black come back]

Half of our remaining games take place over the next six and a bit weeks. There is no way we are going to have many let alone all our injured players back, and it is not clear we will be signing all our new players until the later part of the window.

[RugbyRover]

I think we're still in with a chance 

Gillingham & Crewe are as bad as us and are skint.
At least we're going to throw some cash at the problem.
Granted Morecombe look like they are suited to a scrap at the bottom so could pull away.
Fleetwood not so sure. Hard to judge them cos we were so bad.
Wimbledon going to struggle.
Bolton in free fall, there's always one team that plunges down from mid table.

Obviously they all have a massive advantage but I'm not going to throw the towel in until 01/Feb.

We just need that first signing to give us a boost, then one win and we'll all start believing again 

[roversdude]

Could do with a few going into administration

[Campsall rover]

I think we're still in with a chance 

Gillingham & Crewe are as bad as us and are skint.
At least we're going to throw some cash at the problem.
Granted Morecombe look like they are suited to a scrap at the bottom so could pull away.
Fleetwood not so sure. Hard to judge them cos we were so bad.
Wimbledon going to struggle.
Bolton in free fall, there's always one team that plunges down from mid table.

Obviously they all have a massive advantage but I'm not going to throw the towel in until 01/Feb.

We just need that first signing to give us a boost, then one win and we'll all start believing again 

We got that win against Shrewsbury and then look what happened.  This lot have not got it in them.
Never seen so much dead wood in one squad.
They are either injured, simply not good enough or not bothered. Mixture of all three.

[Chris Black come back]

A case in point is Fleetwood, currently in the final safety place, and who we are ultimately targeting. We have both played 24 games and they are 9 points and 22 goals better off than us. In fact, they have scored 37 goals to our 16 goals.

We also have to play them away, on 19 March. We have never beaten them at their place, ever. Our historic record away at Fleetwood is P6, W0, D2, L4. In fact, we have only ever scored three goals away at Fleetwood. We have no hope of winning there.

Putting all this together, we have absolutely zero chance of catching Fleetwood, the side in the final safety position at present.

[dickos1]

We’ve 22 games to go,
Nonsense to suggest the season is over

Have you even looked at our next 6 fixtures. If you are so confident, you tell us where any points in those games come from? This from a team that just squandered a 3-0 lead at half time against a relegation rival and who could only muster 1 shot on target in 90mins against fleetwood f**king town. You are just trying to be different, aren’t you?

Whether I’m confident or not is irrelevent, I’m stating the fact that there’s 22 games to go, and nobody knows how the season will pan out with new signings and players returning.
So instead of trying to predict what’s going to happen why not just get behind them and see where we end up

With all due respect dickos, you’re predicting we’re going to stay up.

The majority of forum posters are behind the team & IF a miracle happens & we are able to bring in players that are able to hit the ground running, can galvanise this squad of underachiever’s (I’m being as kind as I can here) & we are able to ‘scramble over the line’, brilliant.

You’re right, we have 22 games & 66 points to play for but again with respect you/we don’t know what players GM has ‘lined up’ therefore we won’t truly know until we’ve seen them in action over the next half a dozen games, starting with high flying Wigan on Saturday, now wouldn’t an unlikely win on Saturday be a great start however, we’d need to follow that up with an away point at MK Dons & two more home victories against Plymouth & Rotherham to REALLY have any hope or sense of a ‘revival’.

That’s as optimistic as I can make it.

Another loss on Saturday & away at MKD followed by a meagre 1 point from our two home games coupled with continued poor performances & I think even you would have to throw the towel in regarding Lg1 survival.

That’s not to say we don’t continue to support the team & more importantly the club, we just do so with an eye on next season.

There’s nothing wrong with blind faith dickos, but there’s a heck of a lot of ifs, buts & maybe’s in there.

Never the less, I salute you.

Where have I predicted we will stay up? I’m suggesting that to write a season off with 22 games to go is ridiculous
I’ve not predicted anything

[Chris Black come back]

To put all this in perspective, Lincoln were until last night on the same points as Fleetwood in the last safety place at 25 points. They went away to Sunderland and won 3-1. Yes, Sunderland had a sending off but Lincoln were already 1-0 before that. There is no way we would have been anywhere near able to relocate that, even with some quality additions (which we don’t yet have). Other clubs are simply better positioned mentally to stay up and have the fight. Our lads are shot, too much has happened already.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

To put all this in perspective, Lincoln were until last night on the same points as Fleetwood in the last safety place at 25 points. They went away to Sunderland and won 3-1. Yes, Sunderland had a sending off but Lincoln were already 1-0 before that. There is no way we would have been anywhere near able to relocate that, even with some quality additions (which we don’t yet have). Other clubs are simply better positioned mentally to stay up and have the fight. Our lads are shot, too much has happened already.

There is still hope with some additions though, it's not a write off totally. About 90% there but still that little chance.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Not great for us Lincoln winning at Sunderland and also Crewe winning the other night. AFC Wimbledon have been dragged down into it but they have 2 games in hand i think?

To not get at least 3 points from either the Morecambe or Fleetwood games was the killer blow for me.

We are 10 points off safety with the next 6/7 games coming up where i would not be confident of even getting a point from those games. Then it is a case of how much further can the rest pull away from us in the space of those 6/7 games.

Come mid february we'll either be down or somehow have managed to hang onto the coat tails of those above by managing to somehow nick a couple of wins against sides that are in the top 8.

If we don't win 2 of our next 4 at least, then i have to relinquish what little hope i have left of survival.

[Colin C No.3]

We’ve 22 games to go,
Nonsense to suggest the season is over

Have you even looked at our next 6 fixtures. If you are so confident, you tell us where any points in those games come from? This from a team that just squandered a 3-0 lead at half time against a relegation rival and who could only muster 1 shot on target in 90mins against fleetwood f**king town. You are just trying to be different, aren’t you?

Whether I’m confident or not is irrelevent, I’m stating the fact that there’s 22 games to go, and nobody knows how the season will pan out with new signings and players returning.
So instead of trying to predict what’s going to happen why not just get behind them and see where we end up

With all due respect dickos, you’re predicting we’re going to stay up.

The majority of forum posters are behind the team & IF a miracle happens & we are able to bring in players that are able to hit the ground running, can galvanise this squad of underachiever’s (I’m being as kind as I can here) & we are able to ‘scramble over the line’, brilliant.

You’re right, we have 22 games & 66 points to play for but again with respect you/we don’t know what players GM has ‘lined up’ therefore we won’t truly know until we’ve seen them in action over the next half a dozen games, starting with high flying Wigan on Saturday, now wouldn’t an unlikely win on Saturday be a great start however, we’d need to follow that up with an away point at MK Dons & two more home victories against Plymouth & Rotherham to REALLY have any hope or sense of a ‘revival’.

That’s as optimistic as I can make it.

Another loss on Saturday & away at MKD followed by a meagre 1 point from our two home games coupled with continued poor performances & I think even you would have to throw the towel in regarding Lg1 survival.

That’s not to say we don’t continue to support the team & more importantly the club, we just do so with an eye on next season.

There’s nothing wrong with blind faith dickos, but there’s a heck of a lot of ifs, buts & maybe’s in there.

Never the less, I salute you.

Where have I predicted we will stay up? I’m suggesting that to write a season off with 22 games to go is ridiculous
I’ve not predicted anything

I interpreted your continued reminder that there were still 22 games to play for as your way of saying you believed we could/would still stay up.

I stand corrected for wrongly second guessing your ‘motives’ in reminding all & sundry how many games we still had to play.

[Sammy Chung was King]

We will stay up if we get the right players in. We need experience and a fresh injection of youthful enthusiasm with quality .
Agard ……, ……,……,……,…..
Dahlberg, Cukur, Faulkner(L)

By this time I thought we would have at least two or three in.

[Drover]

We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own

Budgets change though. Like how our budget supposedly went from top 6 to 14th over time...

Strangely enough I was sat in a supporters board meeting this morning and we went through the contingencies. If we do end up in LG2 we'll be fine with the current revenue streams.

Mmmm,does that mean the board would be happier when we are in league 2? Would we be at break even point financially?

[silent majority]

We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own

Budgets change though. Like how our budget supposedly went from top 6 to 14th over time...

Strangely enough I was sat in a supporters board meeting this morning and we went through the contingencies. If we do end up in LG2 we'll be fine with the current revenue streams.

Mmmm,does that mean the board would be happier when we are in league 2? Would we be at break even point financially?

No it doesn’t mean that at all.

I find the reasoning behind this question really odd. The simple answer is that it’s harder to balance the books in LG2 than it is on LG1 for a whole host of reasons.

The other question you have to ask is why would somebody sink many millions into a football club just so they can relegate it to the lowest division in order to save a few quid? If that was the case there’s dozens of easier ways of doing it than the way it’s currently playing out.