POLL. League two next season?

[normal rules]

Its difficult to be positive given what has unfolded so far this season, except what next season may bring, perhaps.
So what camp are people in? Let’s address the elephant in the room.
Resigned to what now seems inevitable?
Or belief in the greatest escape?

[sedwardsdrfc]

Turn around in points is too large imo. The players good enough to win as many games as we need aren't going to be available to any L1 club let alone us in Jan. Same with the injured players they just aren't coming back quick enough to give us a chance

[normal rules]

Today was another example of an occasion where another result really went our way (gills) and we failed to capitalise. In fact we failed full stop.
There have been three or four other occasions this season where other games have gone our way and rovers have failed to win.

[robchester]

We’ve too many players out and have had so for most of the season. No team could survive with what we are going through. I looked at the team when we played Sunderland and thought we had 2/3 first players on the pitch and maybe another 3 who would make the bench if we had the full squad available.

[Ye-Aul-Tavern]

Today was another example of an occasion where another result really went our way (gills) and we failed to capitalise. In fact we failed full stop.
There have been three or four other occasions this season where other games have gone our way and rovers have failed to win.

Gillingham and Crewe must be cursing us: losing two in a row to the crap teams above us thus putting them in the a similarly grim position.

[tyke1962]

They'd have to be some serious rabbits pulled out of the hat for Rovers to survive .

Sometimes almost everything goes against you , with the best will in the world you can't control events .

Both our clubs will be relegated this season but we will see better days sometime in the future .

Today is shyte but tomorrow is another conversation .

[Chris Black come back]

Four people in Donny are smoking crack tonight.

[normal rules]

The optimistic 9 tonight need to go down to their local bookies if they truly believe rovers will get out of this.
Blind belief based on love for ones club is one thing. Reality is another.

[Scooter]

I’ve voted for survival. I don’t really believe it but I’m clinging on to a bit of hope as I plan a few new away trips. Today was crap but I was at Morecambe and I’ll be there again against Wigan. It’s just what I do

[since-1969]

I’ve voted for survival. I don’t really believe it but I’m clinging on to a bit of hope as I plan a few new away trips. Today was crap but I was at Morecambe and I’ll be there again against Wigan. It’s just what I do

Medication time !!

[sedwardsdrfc]

I’ve voted for survival. I don’t really believe it but I’m clinging on to a bit of hope as I plan a few new away trips. Today was crap but I was at Morecambe and I’ll be there again against Wigan. It’s just what I do

So really yours is a L2 vote your just hoping for L1 which we all are. Not a dig just saying anyone voting on that premise should actually vote for L2

[tyke1962]

The greatest asset you have is that you have an ownership who actually care about the club .

Have they made great decisions of late possibly not but none the less it was done in what they thought were in the best interests of Doncaster Rovers .

Do things need to change of course they do but that doesn't mean the baby has to be thrown out with the bath water either .

Who else is going to pump their own money in to the tune the current ownership do to make it sustainable ? .

Good Luck with that by the way .

[BigH]

Tyke, I think the general view is that, yes, they do care about the club.

The problem is do they have any ambition?

[normal rules]

Tyke, I think the general view is that, yes, they do care about the club.

The problem is do they have any ambition?

I firmly believe the board care,
I firmly believe they are ambitious.
I just don’t believe they have the right skill set to convert their care and ambition into positive outcomes.
I do appreciate the sustainability they provide for drfc though.
We can and should sustain lge one/ two football for the coming years.

[redarmi66]

Four people in Donny are smoking crack tonight.

Be a lot more than 4 but yeah they must be

[tyke1962]

Tyke, I think the general view is that, yes, they do care about the club.

The problem is do they have any ambition?

There's an extremely fine line in this game between success and failure sometimes less than 1% .

We overcome Swansea in two tight play off games and get the measure of Brentford in the play off final which with our style and organisation last season which  wasn't beyond us and we are in a different world mate .

The penalties in your own play off semi final against Charlton and you too are in a different space today more than likely .

Sometimes certain results kill you or they shape the future .

It is what it is but it also goes the other way too .

We have to remember that .

[Branton Red]

Tyke, I think the general view is that, yes, they do care about the club.

The problem is do they have any ambition?

Of course they care about the club. Mr Bramall has put £millions into Rovers for a start. I'm sure the other board members care massively too.

They have ambition - the budget dictates that and we are told it is healthy for a club of our size. I see no evidence to dispute this or reason to doubt it either as I firmly believe the Board are honest, decent people.

The real question is do they know what they're doing. Recent evidence sadly suggests not.

It may seem ungrateful to ask this and thereby implicitly criticise the Board given their decency, good intentions and investment. However the fans make financial and emotional investment into the club too so we do have every right to ask this question and where possible make constructive (not destructive) criticisms.

I also feel deep sympathy for the wonderful Mr Bramall who is seeing a very poor return on his investment currently.

[tyke1962]

Massive difference between lack of ambition and making mistakes .

For what it's worth I think the Rovers hierarchy are as desperate for championship football as any died in the wool Rover .

Achieving that goal is possibly the debate .

The club look to have lost some direction and mistakes have been made but two previous mangers left you at a drop of a hat and covid has also played a part .

Now if mistakes are repeatedly made and nothing learned then the criticism is justified in my opinion .

Relegation can be a friend , it offers up the opportunity for a reset , a change of strategy and a different direction .

If nothing changes then calling for a change of ownership is entirely justified in my opinion .

There are no sacred cows in this game .

[ravenrover]

Calling for a change of ownersip of a club with no assets except the players? Yep there is a queue around the block just eaiting for the opportunity to buy the money pit called Doncaster Rovers

[since-1969]

Calling for a change of ownersip of a club with no assets except the players? Yep there is a queue around the block just eaiting for the opportunity to buy the money pit called Doncaster Rovers

If the board have any idea of what was required they not have left us this long without a seasoned striker , instead of the misfits and amateurs that both Wellens and McSheffrey have had to deal with . The defence can cope if we’re scoring at the other end.

[Reesielad]

I honestly don't think this group would win promotion from Lge 2.

[tyke1962]

Calling for a change of ownersip of a club with no assets except the players? Yep there is a queue around the block just eaiting for the opportunity to buy the money pit called Doncaster Rovers

With all due respect Raven I find that " whose going to buy us ? " to be a bit of a myth in football .

There are plenty of people who want to own football clubs and your club is as good as an example as there is as it's had different ownerships over the years .

So has ours .

Whether they prove to be any better than the current ones , willing to invest more and have the club at heart  is more the question in my opinion .

[steve@dcfd]

Which players are contracted for next season
Knoyle Williams Olowu Rowe Close Ravenhill Taylor Dodoo and Hiwula.  So if want to keep anymore then contracts will have to be offered. Players like Anderson, John Okenbirhie if fit enough to play and do we want to keep Seaman and Jones. Then there’s the young lads. Plus if we sign any permanent players this window if the haven’t got relegation clauses.
So will we have a good enough team to get back up and GMC doesn’t win many more games will we need better.

[ravenrover]

Calling for a change of ownersip of a club with no assets except the players? Yep there is a queue around the block just eaiting for the opportunity to buy the money pit called Doncaster Rovers

With all due respect Raven I find that " whose going to buy us ? " to be a bit of a myth in football .

There are plenty of people who want to own football clubs and your club is as good as an example as there is as it's had different ownerships over the years .

So has ours .

Whether they prove to be any better than the current ones , willing to invest more and have the club at heart  is more the question in my opinion .

Tyke our owner has said on numerous ocassions that the club is for sale to the right buyer. Now we are not privy to dealings with the owner but we have not heard of offers being made and refused. Anyone buying a footbal club tends to do so to make a profit there are not many benefactors about these days who do it to solely provide entertainment for the masses. As you say there are people out there wanting to buy football clubs but very few who would want to buy clubs the likes of Rovers

[EasyforDennis]

Calling for a change of ownersip of a club with no assets except the players? Yep there is a queue around the block just eaiting for the opportunity to buy the money pit called Doncaster Rovers

With all due respect Raven I find that " whose going to buy us ? " to be a bit of a myth in football .

There are plenty of people who want to own football clubs and your club is as good as an example as there is as it's had different ownerships over the years .

So has ours .

Whether they prove to be any better than the current ones , willing to invest more and have the club at heart  is more the question in my opinion .

Tyke our owner has said on numerous ocassions that the club is for sale to the right buyer. Now we are not privy to dealings with the owner but we have not heard of offers being made and refused. Anyone buying a footbal club tends to do so to make a profit there are not many benefactors about these days who do it to solely provide entertainment for the masses. As you say there are people out there wanting to buy football clubs but very few who would want to buy clubs the likes of Rovers

How would we hear anything? We never hear anything from our board.

[Ronnie Dovers]

Calling for a change of ownersip of a club with no assets except the players? Yep there is a queue around the block just eaiting for the opportunity to buy the money pit called Doncaster Rovers

With all due respect Raven I find that " whose going to buy us ? " to be a bit of a myth in football .

There are plenty of people who want to own football clubs and your club is as good as an example as there is as it's had different ownerships over the years .

So has ours .

Whether they prove to be any better than the current ones , willing to invest more and have the club at heart  is more the question in my opinion .

Tyke our owner has said on numerous ocassions that the club is for sale to the right buyer. Now we are not privy to dealings with the owner but we have not heard of offers being made and refused. Anyone buying a footbal club tends to do so to make a profit there are not many benefactors about these days who do it to solely provide entertainment for the masses. As you say there are people out there wanting to buy football clubs but very few who would want to buy clubs the likes of Rovers

How would we hear anything? We never hear anything from our board.

There was a 23 minute interview with one of our board members in the last couple of days. And a meet the owners event within the last couple of months. When you spout such obvious nonsense it really dilutes any other more valid points you might make elsewhere.

[EasyforDennis]

Calling for a change of ownersip of a club with no assets except the players? Yep there is a queue around the block just eaiting for the opportunity to buy the money pit called Doncaster Rovers

With all due respect Raven I find that " whose going to buy us ? " to be a bit of a myth in football .

There are plenty of people who want to own football clubs and your club is as good as an example as there is as it's had different ownerships over the years .

So has ours .

Whether they prove to be any better than the current ones , willing to invest more and have the club at heart  is more the question in my opinion .

Tyke our owner has said on numerous ocassions that the club is for sale to the right buyer. Now we are not privy to dealings with the owner but we have not heard of offers being made and refused. Anyone buying a footbal club tends to do so to make a profit there are not many benefactors about these days who do it to solely provide entertainment for the masses. As you say there are people out there wanting to buy football clubs but very few who would want to buy clubs the likes of Rovers

How would we hear anything? We never hear anything from our board.

There was a 23 minute interview with one of our board members in the last couple of days. And a meet the owners event within the last couple of months. When you spout such obvious nonsense it really dilutes any other more valid points you might make elsewhere.

An interview with the CEO yes.
As for the MTO other than what was posted on here, how would the majority our supporters (who are not members of this forum) know about it?

[monkeytennis]

You%u2019d have to be smoking crack to think we have a chance in hell of staying up at this point.

We have a squad that looks like they don%u2019t know each other. When they get the ball they dither about and don%u2019t know what to do with it. When they eventually get forward the attacks fizzle out.

We%u2019ve been done over yet again yesterday by what looks like on paper a low level team and yet had more technical skill, more fitness, more speed and more cohesion than Rovers by a huge margin.

We had a part time fitness coach who has now departed and an unfit team who look in poor condition.

We have injured players and don%u2019t appear to have the medical personnel to get them fit again.

We have talent identification staff who have signed zero talent as far as I can see.

We have a club who despite having well over 100 applications for the manager post appoint our existing under-18 coach.

The atmosphere in the stadium yesterday was muted, just like at the Sunderland game. When there was noise it was cheering the removal of a poor player or yelling at the ref for allowing them to waste time. The patience of the fans attending is wearing thin and who can blame them.

As a fan I don%u2019t think it%u2019s unreasonable to expect our senior management to be doing everything in their gift to keep us up and I don%u2019t think it%u2019s unreasonable to expect them to be talking to us to let us know what%u2019s they are doing to save the club from relegation.

 I don%u2019t hear or see anything to suggest that this is happening and that makes me very concerned.

[sha66y]

It’s good to see that a collective resignation to our plight will Weald a healthier attitude !

[GazLaz]

We’ve got about about a 5-6% chance of survival. Nothing is ever without chance, just highly unlikely. Less unlikely if we get our number one targets.